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Originally posted by Flighty
I think the women in this thread who are having a problem seeing why straight men have a problem with this, should campaign to have all military members, regardless of gender or sexuality, shower together.
That's fair and equal for everyone. Problem solved.
Originally posted by yrwehere1
reply to post by ipsedixit
We didn't lose the wars, our dumb ass leaders did by restricting us with their rules of engagement and abandoning positions that we sometimes fought weeks to take. When you give up the ground you've gained and lost friends and fellow soldiers to take it, how would you feel towards your leadership?
Originally posted by FarArcher
It's rapidly apparent that the scope of a front line combat soldier is beyond the basic grasp of several on this thread who have taken offense at anything beyond what their personal experience and wishes encompass.
When I think of front line combat troops, the Air Force doesn't exactly jump out at me, with one exception - Combat Controllers. Who are attached to Army combat units.
You go right ahead and think what you wish. It doesn't matter what your opinion is. The only thing that matters is those guys in combat mode day in and day out. They only have each other to rely on, they must completely trust each other, and individuals perceived as "different" will NOT be accepted, and will be gotten rid of - one way or another.
We've all seen incidents in civilian life of guys "rolling queers" and even murdering them.
Just wait until you put rifles and grenades in the hands of everyone, with testosterone flowing, stress that will linger in diminishing quantities for decades, and a desire to stay alive at any cost.
You don't think of what should be, or what could be. Your only thought is of surviving your individual fights before being forced into another.
Like I said, a known gay being shot and bleeding all over everything is a threat - real or perceived.
NOT something the other team members wish to be exposed to - even potentially.
In combat, all threats are removed as a matter of habit.
Political correctness be damned.
Originally posted by Brood
Originally posted by RUFFREADY
I don't think the troops need a lot of grab assing going on.
When I was in the service we did not have to worry about gays bugging us.
Its not good.
We need people that will kill the enemy, not check out their butts.
Straight men are ugly.
Get over yourself, and get back to work, Private.
Just because you're perverted and couldn't work if there were boobs around doesn't mean that gay people are the same way.
More of the straight soldiers probably look at eachothers butts than the gay ones. Gay people have standards and furry bottoms with skid marks usually don't fall into those standards.edit on 28-12-2010 by Brood because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Sinnthia
This has nothing to do with patriotism or majority rule. The bible is written as is. You do not vote regularly on which pages to ignore and which to give special attention. It says what it says. I am not anti-military. But if you want to cry about your Jesus, do not have the job of killer. It takes all the wind out of your sails.
Your Jesus and your bible say killing perfect strangers is ok? I say you are lying and confusing yourself in the process. This is about the man in the OP and his bible. I read his bible. His bible says killing is bad.
Originally posted by FarArcher
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Uhm, rednecks as you call them who've assaulted and robbed queers are from every corner of the nation, from every social strata, and every educational background.
Education is not to be equated with enlightenment.
I've seen some highly educated dumbasses.