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posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by Kailassa
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So you're pointing out that Christianity is based on the principle of blood sacrifice, where the sins of a person or society are transfered to a person or animal, and this person or animal is punished for those sins by being killed. Through this killing of the scapegoat the person or society can be considered to have payed its guilt-debt, and now be free of guilt.



Yes, that is the whole understanding of it. It is a tragically flawed philosophy. It is an absurd way of not having to face or correct one's wrongdoings. It results in losing whatever moral sense one may have. By design one can never grow spiritually when relying on someone else to take the punishment for them instead of owning up to it.



Originally posted by Kailassa
And this sacrifice is re-enacted every Sunday, at Holy Communion. Catholics even go as far as to believe the bread and wine are actually transformed into the blood and body of Jesus.



Yes. These are 'magical' beliefs. The Catholics refer to it as "transubstantiation". They believe that as when the wine touches your lips it magically turns into the actual blood of Jesus.

As I mentioned earlier, using a scapegoat is a cathartic ritual. I suppose that is the root of the practice of Catholicism.




Originally posted by Kailassa

The "born again" Christianity states that by being born again, you gain the benefit of the Christian scapegoat sacrifice, with many believing this guarantees them a place in heaven no matter what they do afterwards.


Yes. I think the Baptists refer to it as "once saved, always saved." I have always wondered "saved from what?" If anyone thinks they are 'saved from hellfire' then they must have a narrow view of life. The horrors of "hell" are all around us in this life.

But yes, many of these people think that all you have to do is say a few magic words like "I believe" and you are absolved of any consequences of misbehavior. That philosophy is a lie. The universe does not work that way. For every action there is a reaction. There is always a consequence for each choice we make in life. And many think they can wreak havoc and just walk away scott free of responsibility.

Blaming others is a learned condition but worst of all it has been sanctioned by these cultures.



Originally posted by Kailassa
A few of my older brothers are in this latter group. With the aid of my mother, also a practising Christian, they sexually abused me throughout my childhood until I was pregnant. Then they locked me up with sleeping tablets to kill myself to remove the family shame. Being naive and stupid, I agreed in order to avoid all my brothers' lives being ruined if people found out what they'd done. Realising, to my surprise, how much I didn't want to die I prayed for help, and within that hour had a miscarriage. (I'm not saying that was a miracle, although I took it to be one at the time.)


This is one of the most tragic stories I have heard. What a horrible thing to happen to you. It sounds like you were living with psychopathic animals. And what you describe is truly scapegoating...requiring the death of another to cover up your sins.

Not to lessen what has happened to you, but you can see this in the political arena today. Those who are calling for the blood of Julian Assange is an attempt to use him as a scapegoat to cover their misdeeds. It seems after so very many generations of accepting this scapegoat philosophy, it almost becomes an innate characteristic of those who practice it.

It is the same thing that happened to Jesus when he turned over the money changers in the Temple. He sealed his fate when he exposed the evil and the wrong doing---which was the commercialism, ritual, and slavery aspects of religion. He was murdered within a couple of weeks after that action. The focus was put on him rather than what he was trying to tell people. Speaking truth becomes the criminal action.



Originally posted by Kailassa
The worst of these brothers had become born again Christians, and were telling me how they loved me, they only hated my sin, (of being a single mother.) They were smugly reassuring me they were constantly praying for me to be saved. I questioned them about their beliefs and they said yes, being "saved" meant their sins had been washed clean. They would go to heaven, no matter what they did from then on.


I hope you have been able to get some professional counseling through all of this. It is a wonder that you could come out of this with any sanity left. From what you are saying here, these animals are completely oblivious to having done any wrong and are still transferring their wrongs onto you.



Originally posted by Kailassa
Having almost been a scapegoat, I hate the whole idea of believing the death of another cleanses your sins.


You certainly lived through a prime example of the illustration. Even though you were not physically sacrificed in death, it sounds like they still use you emotionally as their scapegoat to not face their own evil with the pretense of you being the one not 'worthy of salvation'.



Originally posted by Kailassa
Many of the teachings ascribed to Christ are wonderful, and he is quoted as saying (in Matthew 25) that the only thing we will finally be judged on is charity; whether or not we have cared for the needy.

The most important part of Christianity, "love one another as ye love yourselves," is reitterated in this chapter, "Whatsoever you do for/to the least of these my children, you do also unto me."


That is right. I am glad that you have come out of this horrible life with a good sense of what really is important. How Christ lived his life and what he taught while he was living is much more important than his death. His death has been twisted to support an evil sacrifice philosophy and has also served to encourage idolatry. I realized this years ago when I walked into someone's home and saw Jesus potholders and a Jesus pen and pencil set. Everything on the walls was Jesus stuff. It was like a bad nightmare. Crosses over the door. So much is also based on superstition and religious leaders perpetuate this because it creates a need for their occupation.



Originally posted by Kailassa
I could never admire Abraham's willingness to sacrifice Isaac. I believe that even if a god tells you to do something evil you should stand up to him, tell him to go to hell and have the guts to look him in the eye and face the consequences.


There are many gods. The characteristics of the OT god are not consistent and I think many of these various gods, through mistranslations, and purposeful deceptions have been rolled into one and given the name Yahweh. This OT god is not our Creator.


Originally posted by Kailassa
There are many people in our society hiding their greed, malice and sick perversions behind the sanctifying veil of Christianity. God knows how many believe they can sin all they like and still have an eternity in heaven paid for by the sacrificial blood of Christ.


If that were true, that these claiming "the blood of Jesus" makes them perfect and unable to sin, then "Heaven" would be no different than what you see now.

Thanks for posting. You have amazing inner strength to come to terms with what has happened to you.




posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by NorEaster

Originally posted by mr10k

Originally posted by Alethea
By Sorcery, All Nations were Deceived

And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. Revelation 18:23


The merchants...the big bankers. By sorcery, the nations were decieved....by making history repeat itself, the nation was decieved into electing Obama, that will cause the crumbling of the Republic. Thats instantly what I though of.


If this is what you instantly thought of, then you need to turn off FOXNews and you need to go for a walk. Associating Obama's election with the obvious destruction that the Roman Empire introduced by allowing (encouraging) the literalist Christians to erase thousands of years of human intellectual development, under the guise of their scapegoat salvation rampages, is the kind of screwball thinking that airs on that network at 5 PM daily - Glenn Beck's Carnival of Crazy. That's the exact kind of scapegoat thinking, simply transferred to blaming Obama's efforts to deal with a complete financial/economic/monetary meltdown that started before he was sworn into office with the inevitable result of that global catastrophy. That'd be like blaming him for Greece and Ireland and Iceland for collapsing due to the global economic collapse - which would be considered delusional if it weren't the clear and calculated political strategy of a full 1/2 of this society's voting public.

You exemplify exactly what the OP suggests about the Christian religion, and I'm glad you checked in with your dark, malignant contribution. Yeah, the banksters hit us with a massive criminal conspiracy, but it was Bush who tried to slide One Trillion dollars of US Treasury to those bastards without any strings attached,(not even to buy those toxic assets that the bailout was originally designed to purchase) It was when the Congress only allowed 1/2 of that trillion to be handed out before Obama's inauguration, that the FOXNews echo machine immediately launched with the smear campaign to accuse him of trying to "take over the banks". They knew he'd put strings on that 2nd half of the trillion dollars.

Since then, they've succeeded in clearing Bush and the GOP of any connection to that TARP debacle. The footage of Boener and McConnell intensely lobbying for immediate approval of TARP - as well as McCain's "suspension" of his campaign to push through that bailout bill - is still available online if you want proof. TARP and the bankster fleecing of our Treasury was a GOP-leveraged criminal caper. Pure and simple. And they are still using the same nasty tactics that the OP of this thread outlines. Just the old fashion strategy of creating a list of lies that will be adhered to, and the disciplined reiteration of those same simple lies until they become seen as the truth. This is how every authoritarian regime recreates reality for the people it rules.
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You need to calm down. The OP was stating his interpretation, and I was stating mine. What in the hell does the fact i still live with my mom have anything to do with it? That doesn't even make sense


i never said Obama is taking over the ba- where the hell do you see that?
yes, bankers, the federal reserve have bought out our nation. The country of USA belongs to corporation, go look it up. It's the most prominent and basic information. I never said obama drove us into debt either,
you seriously need to stop arguing, you aren't making ANY sense. Obama sold us out even more, Although ANY true American realizes that it's Bush families' fault we are in debt.


If this is what you instantly thought of, then you need to turn off FOXNews and you need to go for a walk. Associating Obama's election with the obvious destruction that the Roman Empire introduced by allowing (encouraging) the literalist Christians to erase thousands of years of human intellectual development, under the guise of their scapegoat salvation rampages, is the kind of screwball thinking that airs on that network at 5 PM daily - Glenn Beck's Carnival of Crazy. That's the exact kind of scapegoat thinking, simply transferred to blaming Obama's efforts to deal with a complete financial/economic/monetary meltdown that started before he was sworn into office with the inevitable result of that global catastrophy.


perfect example. So everything is only on FOXNews? It's all over the web. It's all in history documents. It's in ATS. i never attributed anything to just Obama. I just feel that Obama is the final weight that will collapse the Republic. I don't watch Glenn beck. Everybody knows the economic meltdown started as early as when Bush senior took office. heck, it was as early as president Mckinley, Reagan, Hell, you need to review history. It's BASIC info. Why are you acting like i don't know any of this? SCAPEGOATING? So who's to blame? Me? I spend taxpayer money on useless bills and healthcare reforms? i spend taxpayer money to pay for oil when we could be using it to further enhancement of solar harnessing technology? get yourself checked - Your eyes are wide shut. I'm not scapegoating at all. I'm blaming the people responsible. it wouldn't make ANY difference if we had voted for McCain OR Hillary! FOXNews? Please! It's on America's lips.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 02:34 PM
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I have believed, and do believe, that real "sorcery" or at least what the Bible is referring to as "sorcery" is simply deceit and manipulation.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by dalan.
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I have believed, and do believe, that real "sorcery" or at least what the Bible is referring to as "sorcery" is simply deceit and manipulation.


You are right. Sorcery is being hoodwinked and manipulated. But, usually there is a benefit being offered and the person does not question the motive or source to discern the deceit. Later, when the deceit is discovered, the victim tends to place all of the blame on the sorcerer. However, often times the sorcerer uses the victims own weaknesses in manipulating them. The problem here is that the victim never wants to take responsibility in admitting that they fell for the deal because of their own vanity or greed.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 09:28 PM
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I think that this is a reference to the practice of sorcery that was becoming a major problem among the jewish people prior to the day of the lord in AD 70 where the judgement of God was poured out on that generation of jews.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 10:42 PM
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Originally posted by octotom
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That's Genesis 2. The Genesis 1 creation story says god made both Adam and Eve out of dirt.

No it doesn't. Genesis 1 just says that God created male and female.

Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.
(Genesis 1:26-27 ESV)

It's good to present information accurately, thanks, but most Christians believe Adam and Eve were the first humans created, and this verse refers to their creation.



Will you accept satyrs as a replacement for leprechauns?

the word “unicorn” appears in the King James Version (nine times: Numbers 23:22; 24:8; Deuteronomy 33:17; Job 39:9,10; Psalms 22:21; 29:6; 92:10; and Isaiah 34:7).
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In two cases, however, the King James Version renders sa‘ir as “satyr” (Isaiah 13:21 and 34:14).

When the KJV uses unicorn/satyr, it's referring to rhinoceroses. It's not mythical creatures as you may believe.


That's unlikely. If you look at the descriptions of the "unicorn", they could not apply to a rhino.
It's generally thought that the word translated as unicorn meant wild aurochs, a buffalo like beast, and that the word translated as satyr referred to statues of a goat god.

I included the link which explains that.

Edited because I just noticed you had carefully edited that link out of the second quote.
What I said was:


the word “unicorn” appears in the King James Version (nine times: Numbers 23:22; 24:8; Deuteronomy 33:17; Job 39:9,10; Psalms 22:21; 29:6; 92:10; and Isaiah 34:7).
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In two cases, however, the King James Version renders sa‘ir as “satyr” (Isaiah 13:21 and 34:14).




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posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 11:35 PM
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Originally posted by Alethea
Yes, that is the whole understanding of it. It is a tragically flawed philosophy. It is an absurd way of not having to face or correct one's wrongdoings. It results in losing whatever moral sense one may have. By design one can never grow spiritually when relying on someone else to take the punishment for them instead of owning up to it.

How do you see this relating to the doctrine of confession and absolution?


Yes. These are 'magical' beliefs. The Catholics refer to it as "transubstantiation". They believe that as when the wine touches your lips it magically turns into the actual blood of Jesus.

"What did you do yesterday, Johnny?"
"Just the usual. Rode my bike, pushed little Suzie down the stairs, cannibalised Christ ..."


As I mentioned earlier, using a scapegoat is a cathartic ritual. I suppose that is the root of the practice of Catholicism.

Cute idea, but no.



catholic: Middle English catholik, universally accepted, from Old French catholique, from Latin catholicus, universal, from Greek katholikos, from katholou, in general : kat-, kata-, down, along, according to; see cata- + holou (from neuter genitive of holos, whole; see sol- in Indo-European roots).


catharsis: New Latin, from Greek katharsis, from kathairein, to purge, from katharos, pure.



Yes. I think the Baptists refer to it as "once saved, always saved." I have always wondered "saved from what?" If anyone thinks they are 'saved from hellfire' then they must have a narrow view of life. The horrors of "hell" are all around us in this life.

But yes, many of these people think that all you have to do is say a few magic words like "I believe" and you are absolved of any consequences of misbehavior. That philosophy is a lie. The universe does not work that way. For every action there is a reaction. There is always a consequence for each choice we make in life. And many think they can wreak havoc and just walk away scott free of responsibility.

Blaming others is a learned condition but worst of all it has been sanctioned by these cultures.

First one has to believe in a perfect, loving god who kills innocents en masse and throws his creations which he's not pleased with into eternal hellfires.
If a person can believe that, they can believe anything.
I believe even my family who treated me so badly will be able to keep learning, through successive lives, until they realise their oneness with the spirit.
There are hells, but they are of our own creation.


This is one of the most tragic stories I have heard. What a horrible thing to happen to you. It sounds like you were living with psychopathic animals. And what you describe is truly scapegoating...requiring the death of another to cover up your sins.

Not to lessen what has happened to you, but you can see this in the political arena today. Those who are calling for the blood of Julian Assange is an attempt to use him as a scapegoat to cover their misdeeds. It seems after so very many generations of accepting this scapegoat philosophy, it almost becomes an innate characteristic of those who practice it.

It is the same thing that happened to Jesus when he turned over the money changers in the Temple. He sealed his fate when he exposed the evil and the wrong doing---which was the commercialism, ritual, and slavery aspects of religion. He was murdered within a couple of weeks after that action. The focus was put on him rather than what he was trying to tell people. Speaking truth becomes the criminal action.

Tragedies in this world are many and varied.

Yes, Assange is being publicly crucified, and there are many guilty people out baying for his blood. One detail I noticed was that an accusation that he'd pushed his penis into a womans back while she was asleep has been rewritten to him pushing it into her body. Still the truth in a literal sense, but presenting an entirely different connotation. But most people now think of his as a serial rapist and consquently regard wikileaks with contempt.

Jess too was made a scapegoat as you say, and corrupt politicians . . . and the pope is just one more politician, have gained power and fortune by promoting the misguided idea that one must patronise and obey them to go to heaven . . . and to be socially acceptable in this world.


I realized this years ago when I walked into someone's home and saw Jesus potholders and a Jesus pen and pencil set. Everything on the walls was Jesus stuff. It was like a bad nightmare. Crosses over the door. So much is also based on superstition and religious leaders perpetuate this because it creates a need for their occupation.

I cracked up reading this. People are so funny with their use of symbols. Sounds like they just need a toaster which toasts pictures of Jesus onto slices of bread for breakfast.


There are many gods. The characteristics of the OT god are not consistent and I think many of these various gods, through mistranslations, and purposeful deceptions have been rolled into one and given the name Yahweh. This OT god is not our Creator.

Agreed. Are you gnostic by any chance?


Thanks for posting. You have amazing inner strength to come to terms with what has happened to you.

Thanks, but no, I'm not strong. I've just learned that the world keeps turning even if you fall in a heap, so you might as well stand up and keep walking.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 12:06 AM
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21.
A milestone cast into the sea signified absolute destruction, it is a curse,

Imprecation, prayers and rituals common among the Hebrew and Mesopotamian and Egyptian and others, meant to bring about the destruction of ones enemies.

www.reshafim.org.il...

www.bible.ca...



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 02:41 AM
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Alethea, it does my heart good to see you posting. I have not been very active on ATS of late. This is a timely thread as I was about to post one of my own that also pertains to a deception. Deception within the Catholic Church to be precise. Nothing new for me as you know. I hope to return to respond more directly to your thread.

God bless.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 04:28 AM
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Originally posted by Hemisphere


Alethea, it does my heart good to see you posting.


Eh. What else is there to do? The flowers are dead and the earthworms are frozen. I'll be around here until the thaw.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 02:29 PM
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Being in the pharmacy business, and interpreting pharmakius or scapegoat, think about how many animals are being sacrificed everyday for the drug industry. Across the street from me are labs that test drugs on animals all day long and being sacrificed to treat human disease/sins.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 02:42 PM
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If you are a citizen, a voter, a patriot, then it is your duty to uphold and respect your elected leaders whether you voted for them or not. That's your part of the deal for the benefits you receive for being in this country. To blame all the ills of the world on one man is scapegoating.


Ah ok so if some gang of thugs votes that it is ok to steal the fruits of my labors and give them to bankers and financiers, steal my children and send them off to die in foreign wars plundering other nations of thier resources and murdering thier people, it is ok to poison the water and food supply, tell me what I can eat and not eat, and who I must go to for medical attention and force me and my children to be injected with poisons, Tell me what plants I can grow and use for food or medicine, etc. etc. etc. I must go along with it because this gang outnumbers me... Wow what wonderful benefits...

Gotta love democracy... Sigh!

So tell me where does this gang get the authority to vote on every aspect of my life and how I should live it as long as I am not harming anyone? And why am I obligated to support my own subjugation by the force of this gang of thugs?

My god it is statements like this that testify to the power of the indoctrination and brainwashing of the people by TPTB...
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posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by Alchemst7
Being in the pharmacy business, and interpreting pharmakius or scapegoat, think about how many animals are being sacrificed everyday for the drug industry. Across the street from me are labs that test drugs on animals all day long and being sacrificed to treat human disease/sins.


It's heartbreaking. And it's not done to help people,it's done to make money.

Sadly, most testing is irrelevant. The human inability to manufacture our own vitamin C means any testing done on a creature which can is inapplicable. And that's far from the only major difference we have in diseases and reactions to treatments. Even different ethnic groupscan differ in reactions to pharmaceuticals and to illness, let alone completely different species.

If a tenth of the money spent on the pharmaceutical industry had been spent on researching health and natural remedies, the whole human race would be better off.

And animals are not the first scapegoats in this story. The biblical injunction to not allow a witch to live was used by the church to eliminate the female elders, who were the repositories of both herbal medicine and common sense, and were seen as a threat to the Church's authority.

Killing these scapegoats removed a great deal of medical knowledge from the community, leaving the people vulnerable to the idiocies of the new, church approved, male practitioners of "healing".



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by hawkiye
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I must go along with it because this gang outnumbers me...



If you are part of that society, then you are actually part of that "gang of thugs" inadvertently. The gang of thugs may be misled or hoodwinked or coerced to go along for some immediate benefit. But as long as you (I mean this term, not personal to you, but in general--"anyone") who supports that type of system plays a part in it, even if it is silent consent.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 03:34 PM
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If you are part of that society, then you are actually part of that "gang of thugs" inadvertently. The gang of thugs may be misled or hoodwinked or coerced to go along for some immediate benefit. But as long as you (I mean this term, not personal to you, but in general--"anyone") who supports that type of system plays a part in it, even if it is silent consent.


I am not a part of the gang of thugs I do not support or consent to it in any way shape or form. The only reason I comply with any part of it is by threat of force and literal force.

You realize what you're saying boils down to is that I was born into slavery so get over it. Society has no right to vote on any aspect of my life as long as I am not harming anyone, and I am not obligated to go along with any of it. As long as a majority people continue to believe the wrong thinking quoted above then people like me will be threatened and used force against to comply with and support the theft plunder and even murder.

I have lawfully notified every agency that enforces this abomination that I do not consent and rescind any and all signatures on any and all contracts written or implied to support any of it and that I want no benefit except that which I am lawfully entitled to by my willful consent to a fully disclosed contract, all to no avail because the prevailing mindset is that which you illustrate and despite my refusal to consent I am forced never the less by the mobs support of its thugs to enforce thier theft and plunder on me and anyone else.

Until this wrong thinking is corrected that you, or anyone has a right to vote on any aspect of my life that is not harming others I expect the continued demise of our society will continue to accelerate.


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posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 03:45 PM
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Actually the Hebrew uses the term "Nacash" which when translated about as close as you can in english means
"upright shining creature" using that and another word right next to it may imply something serpent like or reptilian. It says nothing about an actual talking snake though OK? DENY IGNORANCE! ..bro..k?


Sorry this was off topic a bit I'm trying to still make sense of it. Give me a minute..or two.


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posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by firegoggles
It says nothing about an actual talking snake though OK? DENY IGNORANCE! ..bro..k?



Talking snakes do exist. Have you never met a used car salesman?


The "talking snake" is a metaphor for someone sly, charming, and convincing.
In Arabic folklore and Islamic teachings the "talking snake" is called a Jinn or a Djinn. From that word we get the translation "Genie". The Genie is a trickster--he shows you sparkle, you take the deal...and later find out there is something really bad about the sparkle and you are trapped in some irrevocable circumstances.

"Snake" is used poetically. It was never intended to be taken literally. These illustrations are taken from long ago, undergo many translations through time and language, and you should take that into account. It is the 'sense' of the word of what a snake means---not an actual snake.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 05:27 PM
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I ain't no biblical scholar, but any Christian teaching I have heard does not say you no longer sin when you accept Christ- quite the opposite, that sin is an inevitable part of human existence, in thought and word and deed



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by blueorder
I ain't no biblical scholar, but any Christian teaching I have heard does not say you no longer sin when you accept Christ- quite the opposite, that sin is an inevitable part of human existence, in thought and word and deed


Blueorder...the issue is when one professes to believe that the death of another person relieves him of "sin". I think this is required in order to "be" a Christian. To be a Christian, according to the doctrine of all xtian religions I know of...one must publicly profess that "Jesus died to save you from sin...and through his bloodshed you are "saved". Some require a candidate to profess they are "sanctified by the blood of Jesus"; their transgressions are "covered by the blood of Jesus"; they claim rights to inherit Heaven by "accepting the blood of Jesus for their sins".

This is scapegoating.

Have you ever seen someone else get blamed for something you did? Did you stand by and gloat saying "better them than me"? Or did you stand up and come forward when you realized someone else would suffer an injustice on your account? Is it right to allow someone else to accept blame for your wrongdoings? Wouldn't the right thing to do be to stand up, admit your wrongs, and try to make amends?

Scapegoating allows people to never have to acknowledge their fault in the matter. It allows people to not have to take responsibility for their actions. It destroys one's integrity and stunts their spiritual growth to believe these fanciful lies and distortions.



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 02:15 AM
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Originally posted by Alethea



Religious leaders have mislead people about the true meaning of the word 'pharmakon' because they use this very ritual to line their pockets and execute their wicked evil agendas.

The Ritual of Pharmakos developed from the ancient Greek religions and cults, long before Christianity came about. This ritual required a human scapegoat (usually a criminal, an outcast, or a cripple) was chosen and either killed or run out of town in order to "take the sins" of the people and purify the village. This was usually done in a time of crisis---famine, impending war, etc.

This ritual was designed to act as an atonement for all the guilts of the community.

We see bible story examples of the use of this ritual when Jonah was thrown overboard because he was believed to be the cause of the storm. He became the scapegoat sacrifice. We see this ritual used in the old Hebrew tradition of the Day of Atonement ceremonies still carried out today. We see this same scapegoat ritual of the Yom Kippor chicken ---first touched on the head to transfer the sins of the person, then swung in the air as an offering to their god, then finally beheaded. And then came Christianity, replete with its human scapegoat sacrifice to carry away the sins of the people.


The problem with the poison in this philosophy is that people never have to accept responsibility for their actions.

Many religions imply to their followers that there is no consequences for wrong doing if they are "saved". To "be saved" all they have to do is claim in the belief of sacrificial atonement and follow their church doctrine.

Whether or not a historical Jesus existed, the philosophy ascribed to this man which has been put forth in scripture certainly does not condone a scapegoat mentality. What Jesus taught when he was alive was certainly more important than the scapegoat death it has been turned into.


My take on the scapegoating and Christ sacrificing for our sins is a bit different. At some point in time someone realized that guilt was a very useful tool. Later, someone else realized that guilt could be debilitating to an individual as well as the group. In the end you wind up with a system that introduces the premise of guilt, has the capability of inflicting guilt as well as containing the prescribed doctrine to avoid the guilt and for the worse case scenarios a path back into the fold after purging the guilt. Poison and antidote, one bottle.



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