Originally posted by XPLodER
reply to post by Xcathdra
if telling the truth is a crime
all you will here is lies
your democracy depends on imformed citizens
or is sticking your fingers in your ears and shooting the messenger
a good example of democracy in your world?
xploder
Well for starters the US is not a democracy, it is a representative Republic.
Since you invoke the truth argument lets look at that. We know assange got top secret files, and we know he has been releasing them. The problem we
run into is the lack of information to the released documents. There are many branches of the government that run their own intelligence ops based on
the topic.
State Department and its diplomatic cables. Military intelligence which ecompases many areas that overlap. Releasing documents that show only partial
information is the problem. Our intelligence services do not take all of their collected information and dump it into one report. You will have
references with varying degrees of information.
Example:
A state department cable talks about Iranian politics, taking note that the REvolutionary Gaurd has a new commander. The DoD would then take that info
and do their analysis based on there area of responsibility. During their deal, they come across weapons that are heading out of Iran and going to say
rebels in Russia, and on and on.
What you will find is a diplomatic cable that discuses in depth the polotics change in Iran, referencing the Revolutionary Gaurd change in the report
by statin it was turned over to DoD. The DoD report will go into detail and put in their report where the info came from, State Department as well as
a blurb about the weapons issue being turne over to the CIA.
Just because a personhas top secrete access does not mean it carries over from department to department. If you hold top secrete clearence for say
Spaced based operations, that clearance will not get you access to say submarine based efforts.
So while people make the argument these files are the truth, they are not understanding how that system works. Its to easy to take information that
contains partial references and get a wrong conclusion because the partial info was not the full accounting.
@ another comment by someone else
As far as Assange goes he has every right to ask for money to help with his legal defense. As of right now it deals with the rape accusations out of
Norway and not wikileaks related per se. His troubles are just getting started though, and from the looks the delayed release of this info appears to
be done in incriments that hit jsut as the media is shifting focus to something else.
