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"Online storage! We keep your files safe if you crash!" Wait! What?

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posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 12:49 AM
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2TB Raid NAS FTW! The wife and kids work right off of the NAS like it was a drive on their computers. They aren't allowed to store anything on the PC's. Once a week, one touch backs to a few USB drives attached to the NAS for good measure.




posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 12:53 AM
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OFF-SITE STORAGE is important, if you want to prevent a fire from destroying your data, you need to have two separate locations.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 01:46 AM
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there is no need to over react here poeple

there is not some predatory thing going on here

it is simply cloud computing. You people will be hearing more and more about it in the future, and if anyone is willing to hand over things like credit card details then they are insane, but all this is, is simply allowing you to back up all of your data (mp3s, video, documents etc) in another location, and it should be able to be accessed anywhere in the world by you alone.

if your really over the top concerned, check where the data is hosted and what the law and jurisdictions are in that area pertaining to data and computer technologies

simple as that. Cloud Computing is the future, get used to it, its not the NWO or some predator, it is simply the future of internet technologies



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 01:54 AM
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Yeah, I saw a commercial for this on tv and both me and my girlfriend just looked at each other with somewhat of a wtf face. Like really? I dont even trust paper shredders to get ride of stuff so i burn everything. Do they really think people are that dumb? Well, since I guess people use it someone out there must be.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 01:59 AM
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Off-site backups are so important. There is more than one way to do it though, so don't assume that one of those big companies is the only way to go.

I use a service that costs $3/month, gives me 100 gigs, and most importantly lets me use any software/encryption scheme I want. so I use sshfs to access a 99 gig truecrypt container file on the server. No one but me can access it, and only I have the passwords to open it. So even if the owner or one of his employees decided "Hey, lets see what NAJ's backing up today" all he'd see was a big encrypted container. I choose what to backup, what software to use to back it up, when to back it up, etc...

Don't think that just because one way to go about things may not be the safest/best way, that the whole idea is worthless.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 04:24 AM
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i have two backup systems one is for my daily use and for travel, That one is a 32 GB flash drive with linux on a flash drive.
If something happens to my computer the flash drive has all my passwords. bookmarks important data. and as a backup for important data. and i can use it to load a new computer with. as it has a ISO copy of linux.
it also lets me carry a completely independent OS system if i need to use someone else's computer and i can link with my home computer using Remote Desktop.

The other system is a 120GB 2.5in SATA Solid State Drive (SSD) that i put in a external drive case.
this is for long term storage of important files.

Right now i am looking for the connections so that i can wire through the wall of a fire safe without damaging the fire rating and plug the external drive inside it and connect my cables from the out side of the firesafe to my computer.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 08:09 AM
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Thanks all. I started this thread expecting opinions, and I got them and a lot more very intelligent, informative and useful advice. I still have an issue with anyone, anywhere, a company, a friend, in a building, website, other country and what-EVER,.having my stuff.

Cannot THESE companied go down as well? Are we to think that if stored online using all the comprehensive storage variations there are, that if something crashes the entire web, or someone hacks THOSE companies, or a large Chinese PULSE bomb hits....then what? Would the stuff you store now on those sites be safe? Destroyed?
Does it matter?

Thanks again everyone...Im learning a lot. Continue please.............
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posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by mysterioustranger
Cannot THESE companied go down as well? Are we to think that if stored online using all the comprehensive storage variations there are, that if something crashes the entire web, or someone hacks THOSE companies, or a large Chinese PULSE bomb hits....then what? Would the stuff you store now on those sites be safe? Destroyed?
Does it matter?


Lots of things could happen, sure. There is no perfect solution. But having a backup in your home and another off-site is best practice. If the company I used gets hacked all they'll see is a large encrypted mess. And if the Chinese start bombing I hink I have bigger things to worry about than my music and definitelynotporn....



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 05:40 PM
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Uhh, no thanks. Everything important on my computer is safe enough where it is... On my computer. Plus I have free encryption. There's absolutely no need to be sending all your stuff to some company to watch for you, it's either just a scam to make money or a way to hoard personal information, or both.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 05:47 PM
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I think it's a good idea.

The cost is a little high but it would keep your files safe if you had a fire.Right?



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by trollz
Uhh, no thanks. Everything important on my computer is safe enough where it is... On my computer. Plus I have free encryption. There's absolutely no need to be sending all your stuff to some company to watch for you, it's either just a scam to make money or a way to hoard personal information, or both.


You're welcome to your opinion, however it's really uninformed. If your hdd dies you will have lost everything.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 05:49 PM
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Let's just see what you think after hard drive failure, computer completely giving up, fire, theft or a virus that wipes your stuff. I bet the tone will be different then



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 06:21 PM
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Your right and wrong

Backing to a USB Drive is worth something, better than nothing.
Doesn't protect you against the External Drive Failure or Fire or Virus or even Data Theft..
When you backup to a "Cloud", they are on Redunant Raid Arrays, and some will
Backup that Center on another Center in another City. So not only is it protected against a disk failure but also Fire, Earthquake, Virus and Accidental Erasure. They are also about as secure as a Military Bunker.
It's a lot more than somebody just whacking a USB Drive onto the Internet.

It all comes down to, How Important is your Data



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 06:25 PM
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Lets see. What if your house burns down? What if your laptop is stolen (and your external drive is in the laptop bag. Which is more likely that you think)? There is a reason HIPAA requires off-site storage. Your backup is worthless in the case of natural disasters.

But of course, everybody here has all of this top secret information that the government is just dying to get their hands on, because, well, you hang out at ATS and you has Above Top Secret information.




posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by General.Lee
Lets see. What if your house burns down? What if your laptop is stolen (and your external drive is in the laptop bag. Which is more likely that you think)? There is a reason HIPAA requires off-site storage. Your backup is worthless in the case of natural disasters.

But of course, everybody here has all of this top secret information that the government is just dying to get their hands on, because, well, you hang out at ATS and you has Above Top Secret information.



Every one of these systems has different levels of Encryption, and the Data is Encrypted before it even leaves your PC.

Just wondering how many still think the NSA has this super backdoor Password key that will unlock any Encryption?

Not even People working in these Centers can't decode this Data because there are No Keys stored at the other end.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 07:31 PM
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I said just the other day if I read the term cloud computing again I would be sick. Thanks.


For the average person, backing up to an external drive, thumb drive or DVD-RW is going to suffice just fine. The average person rarely has something on their system that they cannot stand to lose. That's just my opinion however.

Now if i'm looking at a business' data retention needs then obviously regular backups to tape during the week, off site storage of redundant backups as well as a in case of emergency site to ensure that operations are interrupted as little as possible. The needs of a business are quite different than the needs of the average user.

Are there people who could benefit from this type of service? Sure. I just find it unfortunate that scare tactics will be used to drum up business.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 07:59 PM
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Not everyone knows how to encrypt stuff, nor does everyone want to bother with the risk of losing or breaking that safety device as well.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 08:38 PM
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Just read all 4 pages and surprised to see no mention of LDT (Linear Digital Tape) Inasmuch as the technology is older, it is tried and true and the capacities are increasing and getting more cost effective over time. Yes it is still magnetic based but avoids many of the pitfalls as discussed thus far. I am a video industry professional and use it for project / media archival.

Regarding the WD vs. Seagate rivalry. Simple brand loyalty / preference. Chevy vs. Ford. (I prefer Seagate or Lacie)

There is a little known rating which Hard Drive manufacturers are not very forthcoming about and you'll likely not find on product literature/packaging unless you are looking at raw drives.

The term is MTBF which stands for "Mean Time Between Failure" Rating. The question is not if but when. I do like optical (BluRay Data) DVD's for applications less than 100 gigs. The capacities for SSD is beginning to make it an attractive alternative as well.

I liken our need to maintain our digital assets to the way nomadic cavemen carried their fire from cave to cave. Aw shucks, my flaming club just died. Gee, it seems we haven't really progressed so much after all.


My .02¢
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posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 08:46 PM
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That radio guy, Komando or whoever pimps the same thing. He's supposedly some computer guru, and yeah, I had the same thought as the OP when I heard him shilling for this tech - "Wait, what!?"

But then people have called me a conspiracy theorist - and not in a complimentary way - but they don't say I'm wrong...
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posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by Hypntick
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I said just the other day if I read the term cloud computing again I would be sick. Thanks.


For the average person, backing up to an external drive, thumb drive or DVD-RW is going to suffice just fine. The average person rarely has something on their system that they cannot stand to lose. That's just my opinion however.

Now if i'm looking at a business' data retention needs then obviously regular backups to tape during the week, off site storage of redundant backups as well as a in case of emergency site to ensure that operations are interrupted as little as possible. The needs of a business are quite different than the needs of the average user.

Are there people who could benefit from this type of service? Sure. I just find it unfortunate that scare tactics will be used to drum up business.


Benefit ?-?

Lots would but can't
These only ever do Incremental, the first overnight Backup could take a week to month to upload, unless you have T1 or Fibre Optic Link. You wouldn't do it during core business hours so backing up 10-20 Gig of Business Data would take foreever at a ADSL2 upload speed of 500k. And if you have a Huge Database like a M$ Exchange Database then it can only backup the Entire thing every time, pointless and useless. Once you get over the Initial Upload, it's quite good. The best thing is it's Fully Automated and no human Intervention is required. The BIGGEST problem in Small Business is somebody always forgets to Load the right tapes or Blank DVD's or Insert the right USB Drive.

There just isn't a single Perfect Solution, each one has good points and bad points.




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