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why were ancient australian aboriginals left out of annunaki influence

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posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 06:29 PM
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watching ancient alines on tv and reading zecharia sitchin for the first time it has puzzled me that Australia has been left out of the civilising influence of annunaki

it seems to me that when suddenly crops and livestock started existing so that people of sumer could start farming and herding and building and spinning and weaving cloth - nothing like that started existing in Australia

why?

and is it proof that farming crops and livestock were given to ancient peoples rather than evolving naturally that nothing comparable existed in Australia

there are not megalithic statues and pyramids and buildings in Australia - why? i think it is the only continent not to have ancient ruins of that type

either the australia aborigine could not evolve beyond hunter gatherer in part because suitable crops and livestock were not in Australia

or they were not smart enough to civilise beyond hunter gatherer [i dont believe this one because there are plenty australian aboroginals today who certainly have brians and can become high achievers]

so what are some other theories?



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posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 06:38 PM
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so what are some other theories?


?? That Zacharia Sitchin was full of it? A hoaxer. Scam artist.

That no such thing as the "Annunaki" existed?

Those are some reasonable theories, I do say....



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 06:38 PM
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Maybe the answers are found in the dreamtime that the australian aborigines tell of.. Or possibly within the psychic abilities that they have - could be some form of natural defence that the annunaki wont mess with them...



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 06:47 PM
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www.mysteriousaustralia.com...

There is a whole bunch of interesting stuff here.



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 06:53 PM
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Forbidden History – The Conspiracy of Silence

This book, like its predecessor, has not been written for the approval of a university professor, but for the average Australian reader to judge for themselves the veracity of the evidence about to be presented. “Pyramids in the Pacific” was a heretical volume and this sequel is no different. The authors believe that the time has come for all Australians to resist what can only be described as the gradual erosion of our freedoms, free speech in particular.

Our politicians appear to be under the thumb of minority political groups and fearful of losing votes at elections unless they do the bidding of these largely left-wing activists. Ever since the government gave Aboriginal activists the right to re-claim their ‘sacred’ fossil skeletal remains from government museums and universities for the purpose of re-burial, the nation has been deprived of priceless fossil material vital to the study of human evolution in Australia.


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posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 07:02 PM
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your post is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long

can I have clip notes please -something that I can actually read easily



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 07:05 PM
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There are a couple of step Pyramids in Queensland, along with numerous phoenetian style inscrciptions on rock.

www.gympiepyramid.org...

Conclusion......................................


So we come back to the simple fact that in the “Gympie Pyramid” we have a site of extensive stone and earth works of a type such as exists nowhere else in Queensland or on the east coast of Australia, for which there is no date, no known function, no known origin and no historical evidence to suggest it is of European construction.
We have a point blank refusal from the Queensland Archaeological “establishment” to do any form of serious investigation into the site for the stated reason that such an investigation might give credibility to something which is “impossible”.
We have a “respected” local academic writing a paper on the Gympie Pyramid claiming it is a vineyard built by a man of whom there is no records at all to suggest he ever built a stone terrace and who never owned any of the land of the site and when queried about this the academic then refuses to reveal her reference sources.
And lastly we have the site facing destruction in the near future to make way for a highway by-pass.
What more can I say?

 

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posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 07:07 PM
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posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 07:21 PM
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A whole copy and paste from Rex's website and not a comment from you? There's too much BS in there to go point-for-point.

The 'Gympie Pyramid' is late 19th Century and well-documented.

The New Zealand 'lost white race' is a political straw man aimed at legally justifying the repatriation of the Maori to elsewhere.

The Australian Aborigines have been there longer than anyone else by tens of thousands of years.

I had Gilroy down as a comedy character until reading your post. He's made some far-fetched claims that just seemed like shaggy-dog tales. Petty racist is quite surprising...



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 07:21 PM
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Our indigenous were visited, as shown in various rock paintings of 'spacemen' and some dreamtime stories. Who's to know if they were 'visited', but they were so in touch with their land and the environment they may have thought that the spacemen ideas were ludicrous. Why change what worked for thousands of years? Unfortunately white Australians have bought much change upon their traditional ways and it is becoming a lost culture in many parts of the country.



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by megabyte
there are not megalithic statues and pyramids and buildings in Australia - why? i think it is the only continent not to have ancient ruins of that type


Thats not correct man, the problem is that the sacred knowledge handed down to them by the Wandjina, etc is tied to sacred sites of actual land around australia - this means many of the structures etc are kept secret.


According to legend 10,000 years ago the Creator decided to manifest on earth (Tya) as a man. He sent a message by telepathy to all living things to gather at Moon Lake (Lake Narran) to wait for him to appear. When he asked them to clear the ground and there he made a circle representing his body, out of which all life comes. This circle would become an important part of Aboriginal life, as it is the place where initiation takes place. He told them the creation myth and why they had been placed on the earth. He instructed them to hold initiations for their youth. At the time of initiation a wise woman or man was to tell them the laws of living and how they were to fulfill the great plan for life, the things he was explaining to them at this first initiation. The circle was called a Bora and Boras have been drawn and used all over Australia for thousands of years. Access to these sacred sites (most of which are secret) is extremely important to Aboriginal life. All Bora sites are high-energy, sacred places.


In Central NSW extensive megalithic stone alignments and other astronomical structures dating back 10 000 to 15 000 years and which suggests the former presence in Australia of a highly advanced civilization of unknown origin. These structures include standing stones weighing 20 tons and carved stone heads.

In Western NSW 3 large human heads have been found carved out of granite boulders. The heads were found near mysterious stone alignment and other formations.

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-B.M



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by megabyte
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your post is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long

can I have clip notes please -something that I can actually read easily



Umm...its "Cliff Notes". And that would be longer than the part excerpted (incorrectly, might I add...see site rules) by JohnnyBGood.

But you should read it. It sounds just like what happens in America and Europe. Especially with what is perceived as the "left" using the term "racist" as an ad hominem. Is there a Global School Of Liberalism where this tactic is learned?

Does the Australian "conservative" or right wing use fear? If so, it seems we have identified proof of the sham of politics.



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 07:27 PM
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A whole copy and paste from Rex's website and not a comment from you? There's too much BS in there to go point-for-point.

The 'Gympie Pyramid' is late 19th Century and well-documented.

The New Zealand 'lost white race' is a political straw man aimed at legally justifying the repatriation of the Maori to elsewhere.

The Australian Aborigines have been there longer than anyone else by tens of thousands of years.

I had Gilroy down as a comedy character until reading your post. He's made some far-fetched claims that just seemed like shaggy-dog tales. Petty racist is quite surprising...


No doubt you will be able to provide a link to the well documented origins of this 'pyramid'



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 07:31 PM
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The connection to spirit that these aboriginals seem to possess is outstanding. The most interesting story I will recount is from a book I read some years ago telling the tale of a British Explorer.

So, a British Explorer was moving through Australia and discovered some ancient sites deep in the jungle from which he eventually returned. Several years later, he became interested in the tracking abilities of aboriginals in their homelands - One of particular interest was the aboriginals of Australia.

This british explorer decided to hire an Aboriginal of Australia to track the trail he had made through the wilderness several years ago, which had long since grown over and it did not make logical sense as to how it would be possible.

The Aboriginal was brought to the beginning of the trail, and at a running pace, began tracing every step of the journey through the jungle that the explorer had taken, eventually ending up in the unmistakable end of the journey.

When asked how he did it, the Aboriginal said:

"It was easy, I just went back in time and followed you, now here we are"


The point of this story - Lets not assume they are not developed in different ways then we have chosen to be.



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by JohhnyBGood

Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by JohhnyBGood
The 'Gympie Pyramid' is late 19th Century and well-documented.
The Australian Aborigines have been there longer than anyone else by tens of thousands of years.


No doubt you will be able to provide a link to the well documented origins of this 'pyramid'


Excellent request. I too await the documentation that proves its known & dated.

also what exactly is impossible about the idea that Egyptians travelled by boat to Australia at one point?

-B.M



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 07:34 PM
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Interesting thread, yet I highly doubt it has anything to do with the aboriginals' "smarts". They are clearly intelligent, they are just not arrogantly progressive.



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 07:45 PM
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The theory I am leaning towards is that Earth was established as a way for the ongoing Galactic wars to find a resolution. This is demonstrated by the many different cultures that have been established around the globe. Some with a very long history +50k years and others with a much shorter history 4k years. As JohhnyBGood points out, there is much controversy in archaeology, not just in Australia but everywhere. The main reason I see for this difficulty lately is the non disclosure policy of UFO's and ET''s. As for the Australian Aboriginals not being phased by the Annunaki, their culture has made it this far so they must be doing something right.

For more on this theory: Earth's Galactic History

 
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posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 07:48 PM
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egyptians could have travelled by boat to australia

but

even though the australian aboriginals did meet up with indonesians, Asia has some well developed cultures and Australia never even got started in the things one would call cultural developments

I dont know about the spiritual things some have alluded to and that is not what i an asking about- but I am talking about buildings and farming and metallurgy and stone buildings and textiles - and alas I dont see anything like that here in Australia as it was when inhabited by Australian aborigines

so the question remains - why? if cloth making and farm crops and writing all either developed or were spread to countries from countries that had them then the chinese and japanese or vietnamese or cambodian culture should have spread down to Australin aborogines via indonesia

so the question remains - why every continet has farming and textiles makign and writing and the australian aboriginals did not borrow or develop these

you would think that farming would be a useful thing - they could have bartered seeds etc

but from what I can see there is a poor variety of natural plnats in australia that one could make bread from for example

so why isnt there?



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 07:49 PM
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I note Wickipedia states that this is a vineyard artifact of some sort - without any proof, merely that it was found to be so by a Dr. Elaine Brown,


This is an independent investigation by an Archeology student - who finds no evidence of any Vinyards there!


I don't remember when I first heard about the "Gympie Pyramid", probably sometime in the 1980's when I moved up to Queensland. I heard all kinds of intriguing stories about it from lots of different sources. When I began my degree at the University of Queensland, try as I might, I could not find any papers of a scientific nature on the "Pyramid". I thought that was a bit of a puzzle so when I was in the second year of my degree in Archaeology in 1990 I had the opportunity of doing a small "practice" research paper on a subject of my choice I asked my supervisor if I could do it on the Gympie Pyramid. My supervisor, the ever worthy Doctor Hall, was a bit dubious at first but as the paper was worth only half a subject ( a full subject being worth 10 points this was worth 5 points) he finally agreed.
To start me on my way he mentioned that the only paper he was aware of on the subject of the "pyramid" was by a Dr. Michael Morwood who claimed it was the work of Italian wine growers; but he did not have a copy.
So it was that I decided I would start from scratch.
I tracked down the location of this very famous structure and wrote my little paper on it which I now publish here below.
I will also publish the only other work by an Archaeologist on the "Gympie Pyramid", by (now) Professor Michael Morwood (when I find a copy).
THe only other acedemic paper I can find written on the Gympie Pyramid was written by Dr. Elaine Brown, a retired history teacher who has a PhD in History.
Doctor Brown has refused me permission to publish her paper on this site because she took offence at the fact I had the hide to point out a few obvious errors in her work. She refuses to supply me with her referances sources for the same reason!!!
Fasinating stuff.


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Possible Origins
At this stage, due to the limited amount of data available on this subject, it is difficult to present any firm inferences as to the structure’s origins however the possibilities that do exist fall roughly into three categories:
1. That the structure was created at some point in time after European settlement of the area and had some kind of agricultural function (Morwood 1976).
2. That the structure was created at some time prior to European settlement and was of Aboriginal construction.
3. That it was pre-European and of non-Aboriginal construction.
The main challenge from the first possibility, that it is of European origins, is to ascertain who constructed it and for what purpose. The notion that it was constructed for some kind of agricultural venture (such as the growing of grapes, table or wine by Italian migrants was suggested by a local rumour and referred to by Morwood in his paper) appears reasonable at first glance.
To test this theory I examined local records (electoral rolls, land deeds and cemetery records).
These showed clearly that there was no Italian community existing in Gympie as any time prior to W.W.II (the structure can safely be dated at least 40 years old by the tree growth on it). Also if it has been a vineyard it would have had a production capacity of in excess of 40,000 litres per annum using traditional Italian farming methods (Notarianni: 1989 personal communication) which would be a huge quantity of wine and would have required the construction of a range of associated equipment such as storage vats, storage cellars and so on within a reasonable proximity to the site and of which some remains or record should still exist. Further more one would expect to find some remnants of the posts used for trellising the vines. None have been found at this point in time.
Further points against agricultural usage are that only the southerly aspects of the slopes. The local agricultural community almost inevitably favours northerly slopes which give the best sun shine and warmth in winter when frost can be a problem. The question also arises as to why the huge investment of time and energy required to terrace such a large area should be expended when much more suitable areas for agriculture (i.e. with better soils, slopes, access and aspect) which would not require terracing exist in abundance around that area. The soil of the area, as Morwood notes, is very poor, shallow "at best skeletal" (Morwood 1976). None of the backfill shows any evidence of including introduction of more fertile soils.
Terracing in agriculture is an activity which generally occurs only when land is in short supply as by its nature it is an exercise in exploiting or utilising intensely, a marginal zone. The Gympie region is a lush, fertile area with many undulating hills of deep soil types. This is the case today as it was 100 years ago. Rich alluvial flats and gentle slopes exist in abundance within 500 metres in all directions of the ‘pyramid’. The terraced area is unique in that it is probably the least suitable area for agriculture within a radius of at least several kilometres. If it was not constructed for agriculture then what for?


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posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 07:51 PM
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I highly recommend wikipedia for aboriginal "dreamtime". there is a tale of a rainbow serpent who performs miracles and also does terrible things.

what i find fascinating is that this again is another culture with an all powerful serpent being.

aztecs, mayans, hopi, the indians of india, china, japan, possibly way more. oh yes the vikings too.



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