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reply posted on 25-12-2010 @ 01:55 PM by snowspirit
Here is another thread that has videos about someone (Svali) who supposedly defected from the Illuminati.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

There's 9 parts, but they go by fast, and load fast. It was interesting, and disturbing if true. I have heard similar stories before. We normal, common people will probably never know the extent of how deep they might go. If true.



reply posted on 25-12-2010 @ 01:58 PM by CIAGypsy
Originally posted by snowspirit
Here is another thread that has videos about someone (Svali) who supposedly defected from the Illuminati.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

There's 9 parts, but they go by fast, and load fast. It was interesting, and disturbing if true. I have heard similar stories before. We normal, common people will probably never know the extent of how deep they might go. If true.


Thanks snowspirit.... I know who Svali is. She has also been MIA since about 2008.

The point of my post is that I am curious to know what YOU think and know of the "Illuminati"?

Thanks for posting!


reply posted on 25-12-2010 @ 02:08 PM by snowspirit
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I'm not sure what to think of them. I know that I've never trusted the pope he looks evil, and Svali claims that there was abusive deadly rituals that went on in the catacombs under the Vatican. Which seems to fit in with what they say about Bohemian Grove and the rituals that might also go on there.

Keepin an open mind, but I don't know what to make of it all. It could all be true, or partly true, as there is a lot of evil in this world, much of it at the top, the politicians, bankers, many churches and their leaders.....

Certain things I don't want to find out for sure


reply posted on 25-12-2010 @ 02:44 PM by naeem11111
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Depends which illuminati you are on about, you can be 'good' or 'bad' but still be enlightened. If you mean the Bavarian illuminati then they are far from 'evil'.


reply posted on 25-12-2010 @ 03:05 PM by phatpackage
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Further, what do YOU think their "agenda" is?


Until there is solid as concrete evidence that they even exist anymore there is no agenda!


reply posted on 25-12-2010 @ 05:06 PM by CIAGypsy
Originally posted by naeem11111
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post by CIAGypsy



Depends which illuminati you are on about, you can be 'good' or 'bad' but still be enlightened. If you mean the Bavarian illuminati then they are far from 'evil'.


Well stated...and I concur.

"Illuminati" is a relative term, which many people fail to grasp. Therefore, I'm curious to know how each of you ATS'ers "define" it and what conditions you apply to someone who is an "illuminatus." Who or what fits that profile?



reply posted on 25-12-2010 @ 05:15 PM by CIAGypsy
Originally posted by network dude
CIA Gypsy, hmmm, well with a name like that there is no doubt you can be trusted.


Touche....

Originally posted by network dude
They are meant to fill the minds of young internet junkies who don't actually look up things for themselves, but rely on others to spoon feed them information. "They" must be evil, "They" must be trying to take over the world. Unfortunately, "they" have not existed in hundreds of years, and when they did exist, most members of ATS would have sought them out looking for membership once they found out what "they" were about. I am a fan of the Bavarian Illuminati. Not necessarily about how they did things, but about what they tried to do and why. Elimination of control. Open mindedness. Freedom of thought. Instead, we had more oppression and it still continues to this day. Why it must be blasphemy!


So, in your esteemed opinion, the "illuminati" as a group of elite satanists/shadow government/aliens/etc... does not exist, correct? But that this "group" is merely a bit of fiction driven by class envy and fantasy?

However you believe that Illuminati did exist at one time (i.e. Adam Weishaupt's group) but died out....likely due to persecution by government and church leaders. Have I summed up your interpretation correctly?

Do you believe that there is any group - secret society or otherwise - who carries on the ideals of the original Bavarian Illuminati? If so, what and why?


reply posted on 25-12-2010 @ 05:17 PM by CIAGypsy
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Love the edit...

So, you feel there is a group whose agenda is all about "control"? Is that total world domination? Or just certain groups in particular?

How do you think they will accomplish this agenda? Or do you?


reply posted on 25-12-2010 @ 06:41 PM by CIAGypsy
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So I shall chalk you down for the "it's all a bunch of hogwash" category.

A little off-topic, but it's my thread...so we'll deal. Are there any conspiracies that you do believe in?


reply posted on 25-12-2010 @ 06:42 PM by CIAGypsy
reply to post by MightyWizard



So I'm assuming by your post, that means you believe there is an illuminati... Any comments you wish to make on your direct beliefs?
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