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posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 12:13 PM
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United States refuses to condemn Nazis

While 129 countries at the UN GA adopt a resolution against glorifying Nazism, the U.S. votes against it. RT unveils some of the skeletons in America’s closet.

rt.com...




posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 12:16 PM
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Is there a resolution already to not glorify Idi Amin? Stalin? Pol Pot? I mean, I think the whole thing is stupid, and to even have such a resolution is dumb. What's the point? More curtailment of freedom? Seems like it me.



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 12:19 PM
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Refusal to condemn = sameness? Really? I seem to recall that we turned Berlin into a parking lot and then put Nazis on trial for their lives.

Maybe you should close the RT and read a bit of history?

~Heff



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 12:29 PM
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Well, what about free speech? We can glorify who ever we want to. As long as we don't impose it on anyone else. I mean, really? It's not like we Hitler was actually a really close ally or anything.



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 12:31 PM
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condemn it or not...dosnt change the history...



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 12:33 PM
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Did you watch the video?
It covers some fairly compelling historic facts...not picking sides - I'm all about America...just saying that there is some history that allows for the possibility that there may be more to this than your simplistic knee-jerk reaction...
edit on 25-12-2010 by coldkidc because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 12:38 PM
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Knee jerk reaction? Not at all. Hyperbolic thread title? Yes. Political machinations do not equal sameness. There are all kinds of reasons for the US to not go along with UN resolutions. Being a Nazi state is NOT one of them.

~Heff



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 12:43 PM
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To end the spread of communism, the one country that was in a position geographically to act as a block was Germany. They put Hitler in charge of the workers party, NSDAP (Acronym Nazi). They then perpertrated them as the cold enemy of communism. All the while both Communism and Fascism funded by Prescot Bush, Rockerfeller, and Herman Schmidts. All the same international globalists.

Hitler got too strong, over-ran Europe and threatening Britain. Looked like a one world nationalist socialism, which they didn't want. So even though they brought Hitler to power, we began WW2 to put an end to him. We won the war, but the Nazis, in exchange for immunity was signed over to the United States. Allen Dollas (Head of CIA for many years), whitewashed their backgrounds and put all these literally unreformed Nazis into our military industrial complex. And that began the National Socialist Infiltration of the United States system.
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posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 12:47 PM
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Since the OP posted an utterly minimalist statement, allow me to explain why the US did not vote for the UN Resolution.


The resolution condemns the construction of memorials in honor of former Nazis and Waffen-SS soldiers and the holding of public pro-Nazi demonstrations. It also includes recommendations to prevent the proliferation of neo-Nazi ideas on the Internet...

...Parades in honor of Waffen-SS veterans, involving veterans from the Latvian Legion and the 20th Estonian SS Division and their supporters, are held annually in Latvia and Estonia. Russia has repeatedly criticized the Baltic States for allowing these parades to take place.


Source

This Resolution goes against the concepts of freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. THIS is why the US did not support it. Our Constitution guarantees us these rights.

~Heff
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posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 12:52 PM
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You are spot on. The US did the same thing with Japan and ( can't remember his name) Colonel (name here) who was in charge of the development and use of biological war agents in China. After we defeated Japan, this same Colonel was brought to the US and brought into our military as well.

I love the "history remarks" come on folks its not even debatable the US did in fact bring in a number of Nazi's from the SS growing our intelligence community into the eventual CIA.

But to imply that we were somehow made sinister as a result doesn't wash with me...obviously we were already sinister as to partake in such activities.



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 12:53 PM
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edit on 25-12-2010 by Shadowfoot because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 12:54 PM
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The "history" remarks came from somebody who realized that we were not debating whether or not Nazi scientists were imported - this is the realm of historical fact. The history remarks did come from someone who suggested the OP crack an actual history book instead of trusting RT's propaganda. RT is a Russian tabloid news service.

~Heff



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 12:58 PM
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Understood, I am realizing I went far of topic with somebody else, apologies OP, but agreed RT is a poor source. On topic...sigh the whole idea that they spend time making resolutions like that, rather then solving real world issues...kinda sheds some light on their efficacy as a body.



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 12:59 PM
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Really ? Operation Paperclip ring any bells ?
or how about, Prescott Bush ? C.I.A. ? IBM? Really ?
It seems to me that our,or what use to be our
Government is heading down the same road as did Hitler's Germany.
Invading Nations based on lies.1.3 Million Iraqi's dead.
Afghanistan, Who next ? Iran, North Korea ?
Attempting to shut down Free Speech.
Having to look at that Nazi cousin Janet's face at Wallmart.
do not set off alarm bells ?
Now ,as Eric Holder has said; the greatest threat to
National security is the American People themselves.
Attempting to shut down free speech ?
But, every things just fine though, hu ? O.K.



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 01:07 PM
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Nazi Germany is where the Bush family fortune came from, and where the Rockefellers increased their fortunes to obscene proportions.



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 01:09 PM
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I believe the U.N. made this resolution because of the resurgence of Nazi doctrine and propaganda in Germany especially and elsewhere in the world.

We all know what happened when Nazis rose to power the first time.

There are some pro-Nazi and white supremacist groups in the U.S., including in our prisons, but as far as I know (and I don't have the statistics) they are not large enough to pose a serious threat to law and order, at least not yet. And then there is hate crimes legislation under which they can be arrested and tried. Of course, we have a Congressman who dresses up like a Nazi for WWII re-enactments. . . . .who knows how deep and far the sympathy lies really. One thing's for certain, though, and that is if we outlawed it, it would only attract MORE rebellious people to Nazi doctrines.

I believe many people on ATS are opposed to anything the U.N. does as they see it as an attempt to establish a one-world government. And then the U.S. rarely votes on any resolution the U.N. proposes, no matter how sensible and humane it is. As a country we tend to hate and suspect any power that challenges our own. President Bush treated the U.N. with absolute disdain, and many times we have been delinquent in paying our dues.

Many Americans just want the rest of the world to bow down to us.



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 01:16 PM
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Freedom of Speech is not the reason... It would be nice if it was. Yet it is only an excuse.



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 02:47 PM
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That article, indeed the whole website you linked to is a Russian propaganda outfit.

"The Baltic lobby in the US is very powerful" ? get outta here.

Look at this doozy of an article from the same site:
Georgians insulted by government’s anti-Soviet propaganda

A number of Soviet monuments have already been dismantled across the country, and schoolchildren have been obliged to watch a documentary likening the USSR to Nazi Germany. The Georgian government is leading an anti-Soviet campaign. But both the timing and methods of implementation have led many to question its real motives. “It’s not just anti-Soviet propaganda, but anti-Russian,” says historian Nana Japaridze. “Those conducting this campaign are trying to put Russia on a par with the Soviet Union.” It has been two decades since Georgian independence, and two years since Georgia attacked South Ossetia provoking an armed conflict with Russia. A history of tense relations and those recent events are thought likely to be having a bearing on what is happening now. However, many Georgians – particularly the older generation – hold positive memories of the Soviet era. Anguli Jibladze worked as a police officer in the Soviet Union and believes “law and order was much better in the Soviet time than today”. For people like Anguli the destruction of monuments dedicated to Soviet soldiers – many of whom were themselves Georgian – is particularly inflammatory. They have had to sit by and watch as their memories of the past are reduced to rubble. “Why do you think they have dismantled these monuments? They want us to forget our history. But we should never forget,” Anguli says. The Georgian government is known for its provocative stance towards Russia but for some the controversial campaign techniques are perhaps a step too far. Whilst a strong emphasis on the negative aspects of the Soviet period might well suit the present political agenda, not everyone inside Georgia is happy with their government’s actions.

rt.com...

What a joke. Gee I wonder why Georgia might have some hard feelings towards the Soviet Union and Russia?


USSR/Russia is far closer to the NAZI regime than the US. How many tens of millions did Stalin kill ?



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 03:00 PM
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come on folks its not even debatable the US did in fact bring in a number of Nazi....


I had one of them as my riding instructor as a kid


(He actually was)



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 03:03 PM
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come on folks its not even debatable the US did in fact bring in a number of Nazi....


As did the Soviet Union !

Both countries were in a battle to capture German scientific intelligence after WW2.
Interesting thing is, many of these scientists raced to surrender to the Allies, cause they knew USSR was bad juju.



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