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Kitten-killer video poster being hunted online

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posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 07:54 AM
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Originally posted by TKDRL
Would be really nice if people would do something that matters and tear into the criminals in government to shreds like this..... Oh no a kitten was harmed, let us unite and waste all all our time focusing on crap like this while people are murdered by governments every day.


People are murdered by people too everyday. It is very sad that people are being murdered, it is also sad a kittens are being murdered, but I too think it is sad that people seem to be more worried about these cats than all the people, I guess its because this idiot posted his video on the net. Not smart when there are crazy kitten lovers who now want him dead.




posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 08:14 AM
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Hi there.... Sorry I have to challenge what you said.

I don't think people care more about the kitten killer and less about humanity.

I think we all know fro reading studies based on years of research that children/teens that show no emotion when harming or killing animals have a good chance of growing into human harmers / killers.

I think the need to find this chap is based on the fact that he needs help and needs to be kept from harming any more animals and ... Goodness forbid... a human or humans.

You only need to google to see the studies on killers that show they were unhinged as children... yet no one did anything about it.

Now is a chance to stop someone and help the before their mindset is... set.



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:22 AM
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There are many of us that have respect for all life on this planet. Where you place the value of an animal in your life is your business. The fact that someone from my species did this to two innocent kittens makes me ashamed of what we let ourselves become, but also the fact that so many people want to avenge this horrifying act gives me faith that humans value love in any form it takes.



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by ommadawn

"Based on the pack of cigarettes, along with wall chargers and plugs, and some of the furniture, it was determined that this took place in Russia or Latvia. Also confirmed due to the language used in the other videos featuring the alleged killer.


Well - best to nuke them from orbit - it's the only way to be sure!



Seriously - is the main export of those countries mafia, terrorists, and serial killers now!?? WTF!?!?

If I weren't a religious man - I'd say have children tested multiple times through childhood - and if they lacked empathy - have them isolated permanently under some dome - where they can reak havoc on their own kind - lord of the flies style.

Until science has some serious cures - and some on the horizon look promising - we will just have to pick these people out by acts such as commited by this young psychopath.

I find it unlikely he can be reformed now - but should be jailed away until science has a possible cure.

The sooner he is apprehended the better - let's just hope his corrupt Govt. doesn't turn him into a souless assassin or somesuch - I really wouldn't be schocked if they did.



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by yzzyUK
reply to post by iamaperson
 


Hi there.... Sorry I have to challenge what you said.

I don't think people care more about the kitten killer and less about humanity.

I think we all know fro reading studies based on years of research that children/teens that show no emotion when harming or killing animals have a good chance of growing into human harmers / killers.

I think the need to find this chap is based on the fact that he needs help and needs to be kept from harming any more animals and ... Goodness forbid... a human or humans.

You only need to google to see the studies on killers that show they were unhinged as children... yet no one did anything about it.

Now is a chance to stop someone and help the before their mindset is... set.


No reason to be sorry, lots of stuff I say is wrong. No, I don't think people care more about the kitten killer either, I just think people are putting too much effort into this one incident when there are people being murdered. I am fully aware that people who do this as children become killers, which is why I believe he should be put into care, not killed. You need to remember though, this is one incident, there could be many dangerous people killing cats who never get caught.



posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 01:41 AM
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I can't view the vid. Probably wouldn't want to anyway. I can say this. Were the kid a hacker that got into a govt net they would have already caught him for sure. Killing is killing. If you can kill an animal like that, you could do it to a person. But let me remind you we also have people this day and age that hunt WHEN THEY ARE NOT HUNGRY. I see little difference.


 
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posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 02:17 AM
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Lol most of us who hunt, don't wait until we are hungry, that would be a silly thing to expect people to do. We hunt it when whenever we can, then put it in the freezer until we are hungry.



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 08:14 AM
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Here is an update. Rescue Ink. has identified the killer through facebook. They still haven't said if they know the killer's location, but, I am posting the links here for help in identifying this monster:

www.facebook.com...

www.facebook.com...

After reading through the comments from the investigation, he has already targeted kids. Looks to me like there is sexual abuse involved. If anyone recognizes this creep, contact Rescue Ink and local authorities. There is still a $5000 reward offered for his capture.

www.rescueink.org...



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 08:52 AM
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This is how serial killers get started,by killing small
animals.This kid gets caught and is punished,it may
save someone's life in the future.



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 09:12 AM
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I firmly believe that this is not the first incident and most certainly will not be the last. Viewing the pictures that he has posted shows behavior that is escalating due to the attention he is getting. This attention fuels his desire toward a "shock and awe" effect. It is a game of cat and mouse for him now. This willl lead to more extreme destructive and violent behavior. He will soon become bored with small prey and move on to bigger challenges to try to feed his desire to not only entertain those that are following his sick behavior, but to also feed his own need to kill.

If you look at his pictures he has posted, you will see that he is an exhibitionist. One picture in particular reminded me of BTK from Kansas where he has tied himself up using a bandana and in others he is posing in a provocative way holding his crotch. In another picture he is on his stomach with his pants pulled down to expose himself. This guy is just warming up! Believe me, there are people actively searching for this guy and he will be caught eventually and he won't be treated with "care". I think he has already bought himself a death sentence and it will probably be by his own hands.



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 08:24 PM
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Reading this actually makes me sick to my stomach. I am a big time cat lover. You let anyone, and I mean anyone try something like that to my babies, and there'd be a new vid to watch, me doing the exact same to them. Even my son is extremely protective of our little fur family. We have even been known to run other cats out of the yard for being too mean to our little ones.



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 08:33 PM
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I know just how you feel about kitties.I have
three of my own and they are my children.
My avatar looks like one of them,my little boy.



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 02:01 PM
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One more further update since I am following the outcome of this on a daily basis, for those interested, the perp is a gay porn star, Canadian, and is known to live in both Canada and France. So far, he has not been found to be arrested. But it won't be long.



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 08:46 AM
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I gotta say.. it is kinda messed up how they are going about it in some instances. Some times they are just throwing up pictures of people they find on absolutely zero evidence. They even have people that were suspected (for no reason at all) putting up salutes to show their innocence. That is messed up. Does the hunt have to drag so many people through the mud?

www.facebook.com...#!/photo.php?fbid=181708995190825&set=o.1737700293230 74&pid=550029&id=100000551768586

How would you like to be the guy who was put on a site as a suspect for killing cats, just because your initials were kk and someone thought you might look like the guy.
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posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by ommadawn
There is a Facebook Group co-ordinating the hunt for this guy
"Find the Kitten Vacummer"

The Facebook group above is having a good go, but in that video there is some local TV sound that could be investigated to try to trace the source country at least.


So let me get this straight, somebody uploads a video of killing cats, and now there are concerted efforts to stalk him over the internet? And what if he's found, what then? Killing cats is legal everywhere as far as I know. People throw pillow cases full of cats in streams all the time. People on farms routinely cull cat populations, either putting their head on a post and knocking them with a piece of stove wood, or shooting them, poisoning them, what have you.


Originally posted by ommadawn
It's a pretty graphic video, so be warned.
I have found it best to detach emotion and look for evidence that can track this person down.


Are you actually encouraging people to stalk this person over the internet and try to find out who and where he is? That's a clear violation of the T&C, you're not supposed to be using this web site to harass people or god forbid organize a concerted effort to harass people. Are you trying to get ATS shut down?



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by speculativeoptimist
I know I should not try and be an ats censurer, but I don't think people should post this type of garbage because it only pisses people off and takes humanity back a step or two. No offense intended to the OP, but people should consider before bringing this onboard. What is to be gained? " Oh yea, that's f'd up man, wtf, wow, can u believe?"
Then what? I know I know, if I don't like it I don't have to click on it, but when scanning the boards, we will all be made aware of it...again.

Thanks for the holiday cheer...

spec


I understand your sentiment, but as we've seen in the incident of the woman in the UK who put a cat in a bin, it doesn't detract from our Humanity, if anything it brings people together to hunt down a common foe.

I don't normally like mob mentality, but I truly believe that any person capable of doing something like this is a danger to society. This youth should be tracked down, and then prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And if that doesn't do it, he'll be hounded by animal rights activists for the rest of his life. Rightly so.

I chose not to watch the video. I don't need to. The description of what the guy did was enough to turn my stomach and fill me with rage.
But that rage can be used to help find this sick little freak and I hope that's what people do. Shouldn't be that difficult, there are plenty of people out there who find this kind of thing unacceptable, and he'll have plenty of friends and family who will willingly hand him over the moment they are made aware of it.

Happy hunting people!



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 09:02 AM
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I am a cat lover and all three of my "babies"
are fixed,no unwanted kittens around here.
Killing these kittens, the way that he did,is
a sign of a sick individual who needs help.



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by iamaperson

people are putting too much effort into this one incident when there are people being murdered.


Why are you wasting time in this thread? Get that Lycra suit on, you should be out there saving millions of Humans from natural disasters, disease and poverty!

There's only so much a single person can do, and people will gather around different causes.

Just because a group of people spend a few hours assisting in a manhunt for a sadistic freak doesn't mean they don't also protest globalization, march against the WTO and donate to Amnesty International.

Why does seeing a group of people working on this eclipse the millions who work every day for every other cause? They are still out there working to save Human lives.



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 09:16 AM
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Well killing cats isn't legal. If people knew that farmers were throwing bag fulls of kittens into the river they could be charged, but yes they have been doing it forever.

I do think the investigation got a little out of hand because people were calling for blood so much that they posted obviously innocent peoples pictures on the site and tied them to killing to kittens in front of the entire world.

They did do some impressive work though.

If they spent that much time on other murders we wouldn't need private eyes.. unfortunately for some reason it's only for cats? haha. Kinda weird that these people empathize more with cats than people, but eh. more power to them it's still impressive work.
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posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 09:59 AM
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I've been in the people helping business for most of my life as a massage therapist, hypnotherapist and now as a nursing student , and there are times when I sitll "get" my cats better than people.....




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