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Well at least that is what the good Dr David Viner said ten years ago,
Dr Viner a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia, "within a few years winter snowfall will become a very rare and exciting event”.
Monbiot believes that drastic action coupled with strong political will is needed to combat global warming. Monbiot has written that climate change is the "moral question of the 21st century" and that there is an urgent need for a raft of emergency actions he believes will stop climate change, including: setting targets on greenhouse emissions using the latest science; issuing every citizen with a 'personal carbon ration'; new building regulations with houses built to German passivhaus standards; banning incandescent lightbulbs, patio heaters, garden floodlights, and other inefficient technologies and wasteful applications; constructing large offshore wind farms; replacing the national gas grid with a hydrogen pipe network; a new national coach network to make journeys using public transport faster than using a car; all petrol stations to supply leasable electric car batteries with stations equipped with a crane service to replace depleted batteries; scrap road-building and road-widening programmes, redirecting their budgets to tackle climate change; reduce UK airport capacity by 90%; closing down all out-of-town superstores and replacing them with warehouses and a delivery system.
The short answer is we don't know. Freezing winters should become less common, but whether short spells of heavy snow or low temperatures are on the rise is yet to be determined. The warming of climate change combines with cycles of natural variation in the Pacific, Atlantic and Arctic, as well as solar cycles, making year-to-year predictions of regional weather very difficult. Over coming decades, the predictions are clearer: it's getting warmer.
Originally posted by melatonin
Well, it is rather exciting and a bit unusual. And he didn't say there wouldn't be any snow.
However, these threads are actually quite common. Think this is the third on Viner's comments in the last week or so, lol.edit on 24-12-2010 by melatonin because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by smurfy
Must be something in the air then!
Originally posted by unityemissions
reply to post by mydarkpassenger
Obviously, many programs were put into place, both in public awareness, and those hidden from public view.
Originally posted by mydarkpassenger
reply to post by smurfy
Starred and flagged. How many people here remember the old "Club of Rome" predictions in the early seventies, which said that by the turn of the century we'd have almost 12 billion people on earth, and mass starvation would happen?
Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
Originally posted by mydarkpassenger
reply to post by smurfy
Starred and flagged. How many people here remember the old "Club of Rome" predictions in the early seventies, which said that by the turn of the century we'd have almost 12 billion people on earth, and mass starvation would happen?
Yeah, Oddly enough we are only half that population (6,889,887,904) Yet there is still massive starvation going on. About 1/6 of the world is not getting enough food to eat.
earthsky.org...
Not even sure why I posted this... But it's true... I would consider 1/6 of the worlds population massive starvation... and we are only at half the predicted population level.
That said, I like the point the OP makes.... A case of Climate changers ( I am not a changer or denier) trying to have it both ways... Well, I am sorry. In this case you can't have it both ways. it either is or is not. Simple as that.
Originally posted by melatonin
Originally posted by smurfy
Must be something in the air then!
*sniff* *sniff*
Uh-huh. Smells a bit like a mouldy strawman.edit on 24-12-2010 by melatonin because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by smurfy
reply to post by melatonin
Notwithstanding the title of the thread, (although the good Dr did actually refer to the possibility of disruptive snow in 20 years not ten or any other number) Snow is really incidental, where I am there has been snow yearly to some degree or another.
These last two years however, are more important in the prolonged low temperatures, and beginning at an early stage, (it's actually -8 where I am tonight) and I am near the coast. I think you know rightly the thrust of this thread, which is to point out the ambiguity of the statements that our experts make year in and year out, in that they always have to qualify everything they say, at end of their statements, often in a miniscule paragraph.
I post two links of published experts opinions which end up in gobblydegook for our salivation,
www.dailymail.co.uk...
The Mail on Sunday article said that Latif's research showed that the current cold weather heralds such "a global trend towards cooler weather".
It said: "The BBC assured viewers that the big chill was was merely short-term 'weather' that had nothing to do with 'climate', which was still warming. The work of Prof Latif and the other scientists refutes that view."
Not according to Latif. "They are not related at all," he said. "What we are experiencing now is a weather phenomenon, while we talked about the mean temperature over the next 10 years. You can't compare the two."
www.independent.co.uk...
It's up to you to make what you want of these ideas, maybe trying to read between the lines is as good as anything else, but that's my opinon.