Argentine Air Force announces committee to study UFO phenomenon.

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posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 08:04 AM
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After all the unexplained Argentinian UFO activity over the years, the Argentine Air Force have announced a committee to study the subject - let's hope it attempts to be more objective than its U.S. equivalent, the Condon committee.




The Air Force of Argentina on Dec. 23, 2010 formally announced the formation of a committee to study the UFO phenomenon.

The Argentinean Air Force’s action to form a UFO investigation unit was confirmed by Sylvia Perez Simondini of the CEFORA (Argentinean Republic Committee for UFO Phenomena Studies), "an organization formed by various UFOlogy groups in Argentina. The main purpose is the declassification of all related UFO phenomena in Argentina. It was formed by serious Argentinean UFOlogists in Victoria, Entre Rios during a conference.”

In a public statement, Ms. Perez Simondini says,


"The Argentinean Air Force has just announced the formation of a commission to investigate the UFO phenomenon.

"The Director of Institutional Relations of the Argentinean Air Force confirmed on Telefe Newscast that it has recorded two UFO sightings it cannot account for by normal explanations. The Argentinean Air Force further stated that the mission of the Air Force is to guard the security of Argentinean air space.

"This is a message that all UFO researchers hoped for, filling us with satisfaction to hear that this will occur.

"In our last congress, especially in the Uruguay, which was conducted fairly by the Uruguayan Air Force, at that time, I received greetings from Commodore Robert Muller, Head of the Unit II Air Brigade Paraná, from Colonel Ariel Rios Sanchez, Head of Ricardo Bermúdez CRIDOVNI of CEFAA, the sister republic of Chile, from Ademar Gevaerd Director of the Brazilian UFO Magazine, who is the coordinator of the declassification of UFO phenomenon in Brazil, in order to urge the Air Force of Argentina toward a common goal of UFO disclosure.


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Cheers.
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posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 08:07 AM
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Statements:



"UFOs are real. I myself had an experience of this sort in 1951. It was a yellowish-silver disk with deep red edges, moving at high speed at an altitude of some 500 meters..."
Vicecommodore Oscar Bario. Argentinian Defense.



"At this state of events, and with the evidence available to us, it is hard to deny the existence of flying saucers."
Vicecommodore Dante La Roca. Argentinian Defense.



"I believe in the so-called flying saucer, and it is my understanding that the Air Force will pursue studies on this subject."
Commander Adolfo Alvarez, 1968. Argentinian Defense.


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Declarations:


The Seven Official declarations made by the Argentinian Government


Argentinian Military/Government communique:


1962: At 19:20 hrs on May 22, a squadron of fighters in the vicinity of Bahía Blanca's Comandante Espora Naval Base, reports the presence of UFOs along its flight path. The interception lasted 35 minutes. Direct eyewitnesses to this incident were Lt. Rodolfo César Galdós and his student, Roberto Wilkinson. Report No. 02779 causes the first official acknowledgment by an Argentinean government.


1965: Between the months of June and July, a succession of UFO incidents occur in the Antarctic region, some of them producing electromagnetic disturbances, and witnessed by personnel from the British, Chilean and Argentine bases. A phenomenon on July 3rd at the Deception Island Naval Station generates the second official acknowledgment.


1973: On November 2nd, six members of the Comandante Espora Naval Air Base, close to Bahía Blanca, witness the maneuvers of a UFO, immediately producing the third official acknowledgment.


1978: On the evening of February 4 at the La Florida dam in San Luis, six persons report the presence of a UFO and the descent of an occupant from within, leaving ground marks. The Police Precinct of San Luis, through its chief, Lt.Col. Raul Benjamín López, issues a document which constitutes the fourth official acknowledgment.


1978: Toward midnight on July 12, a low-level UFO sighting causes a commotion in the Estación Ramblón region, located between the limits of San Juan and Mendoza. It was witnessed by police officers among many others. The San Juan chief of police, Col. Guillermo Voguel, prepares the fifth official acknowledgment.


1982: In the evening of August 13, a UFO causes a disturbance in the town of Londres, Catamarca, and its flyover produces strong winds and starts a conflagration. A police patrolman attests to the intruder's presence. The provincial police emits the sixth official acknowledgment.


1986: The appearance of a nocturnal UFO and the subsequent discovery of a gigantic indentation on El Pajarillo hill, Córdoba, on January 9th, prompt this city's municipal authorities to issue the seventh and final official acknowledgment


Argentinean Military's Role in UFO Research
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posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 08:16 AM
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great news especially since those new zealand documents just got me laughed at. i want some proof!



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 08:30 AM
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About time too.

May other nations near Antarctica do the same, be transparent and open. Something is going on there and it ain't human besides the supposed 'human labs' stationed there.

It would also be interesting for those with specialty or interest in radio transmissions to try picking up EMF signals, BUT on the entire spectrum including UV light. Never know what one may discover one day and be surprised, and even shocked perhaps.



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by karl 12

The Air Force of Argentina on Dec. 23, 2010 formally announced the formation of a committee to study the UFO phenomenon.

After all the unexplained Argentinian UFO activity over the years, the Argentine Air Force announces a committee to study the subject - let's hope it attempts to be more objective than its U.S. equivalent, the Condon committee .


Hi karl 12, interesting post,

I honestly hope that you are right buddy, and that they will indeed be more objective than its U.S. equivalent, the Condon committee.
However, I really do personally not expect that besides they will most likely confirm that UFOs are real not go any further then that by claiming/confirming that some of them cannot be other then extraterrestrial crafts.

In your link to The Argentinean Military's Role in UFO Research I read the same.


EPILOGUE:
It is worth noting that almost all these communiqués took place when military governments were in power. Researchers are still expecting an official military communiqué, but issued by the current democratically-elected government. Who are we afraid of? What pressures exist? At this late stage, what is being concealed?

In all truth, no one in Argentina expects an official recognition of "extraterrestrials", only of UFO phenomena.

Even the 1960s-vintage questionnaire is clearer than ever, since its first paragraph reads: "A UFO is understood to be any object in flight whose operating and aerodynamic qualities or unusual features do not match known projectiles, airplanes, objects or known atmospheric phenomena."
A simple "saucer" will serve as an example: in the recent and spectacular Bariloche case, the director of the airport in question, Major Jorge Oviedo, was handed an official reprimand for having provided information to the media!



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 09:01 AM
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I've got a couple of problems with this story. The first is that the two sources are The Examiner and Alfred Lambremont Webre i.e. exopolitics. Neither of these are even distant pen-pals with the Truth. The track record of each of them is beyond the laws of probability when it comes to backing hoaxes, lame dogs and liars.

A couple of months back, during the 'skeptic backlash,' I began writing a thread to highlight the unbelievably high rate of 'fails' committed to the internet by 'The Examiner.' The writers get paid per site-click visit, so generating even one extra visit to their site by posting a thread seemed counter-productive. Say in the past year, they haven't added a single story of substance.

'Ms. Perez Simondini' seems to exist only in relation to Webre's tale and I can't find an original source for the story. Not even in Argentina. There is one Argentinian dead link that refers to 'CEFORA ovni.'



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 04:04 AM
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Hey Kandinsky you make some fair points there mate and it would be nice to see the story independently verified - could only find this article via Ken Pfeifer at MUFON dealing with CEFORA´s declassification request - there´s also a Spanish forum link here with a newspaper article about it.




Argentinean authorities:






On Thursday, May 13, 2010, Argentinean President Cristina Fernandez opened the bicentennial festivities in the city of Victoria. Researcher Silvia Perez Simondini took advantage of this opportunity to present the first executive with an envelope containing CEFORA documentation regarding UFO declassification efforts in other countries, as well as the list of researchers struggling for the declassification of the UFO archives.The President approached Ms. Simondini, who asked her to please read the contents of the envelope, which she promised to do.
Two days later, during communications with Casa Rosada, it was confirmed that this documentation had been read and a promise of a reply was also confirmed. This is the first formal contact with Argentinean authorities regarding a request for declassification, in the hope that the desired goal can be achieved. Posted by Inexplicata.

Thanks to Ken Pfeifer MUFON New Jersey


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Article:





Cheers.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 04:24 AM
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Thanks for the replies and there certainly seems to be a lot of Argentinian reports - there was an extremely interesting video here dealing with UFOs/USOs around the Japanese government's nautical research ship 'the Kaiyou Maru' in Argentinian waters but it appears to have been removed - will have to have a good rummage round for that one - there´s also some more info below about the 1965 official report and MUFON sightings map:



Argentine Navy.

In the 1960s, the Argentine Navy was charged with the official investigation of UFO sightings, particularly those reported by its own personnel. A 1965 "Official UFO Report" prepared by Captain Sánchez Moreno from the Naval Air Station Comandante Espora in Bahía Blanca, revealed that:



"Between 1950 and 1965, personnel of Argentina's Navy alone made 22 sightings of unidentified flying objects that were not airplanes, satellites, weather balloons or any type of known (aerial) vehicles. These 22 cases served as precedents for intensifying that investigation of the subject by the Navy. In the past two years, nine incidents have been recorded that are being studied by Captain Pagani and a team of military and civilian scientists and collaborators. Likewise, a meticulous questionnaire was drafted, printed and distributed to different bases. In a short time, the Service of Naval Intelligence was in possession of a stack of highly significant reports of testimonies. On the basis of this important documentation, it was possible to obtain a coherent overview of the problem." (Captain Sánchez Moreno, Informe Oficial O.V.N.I., Sumario S# A. 02778-DTO. OVNI, Naval Air Station Comandante Espora, in ICUFON Project World Authority for Spatial Affairs (W.A.S.A.), New York, 1979.)


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Map/Interview:





The Open Minds radio program discussed this spike in UFO activity in Argentina on the July 12 program..


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Cheers.



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 11:39 PM
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Thanks Karl
As Kdinks says its the Examiner....but looks like you have additional sources.
Hope its true
would like to see a national body investigating the phenomena.



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 05:38 AM
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Hey Zazz, thanks for the reply and I certainly agree it would be nice to see a national body investgating this phenomenon but it looks like Kandinsky's concerns about authenticity could be well founded on this one - have looked everywhere for independent verification but all I could was this article from Alejandro Rojas about the Argentine government's request for declassification:






Translation:

On Thursday May 13th (2010), the President of Argentina Cristina Fernandez, led the Bicentennial event for the city of Victoria in San Martín Plaza. UFO researcher Simondini Silvia Perez waited for hours to take this opportunity to deliver an envelope to President Fernandez with documentation from the UFO organization, CEFORA, on the history of declassified UFO files in other countries along with a list of the researchers in the (CEFORA) organization. They are pushing for the declassification of UFO records in Argentina. This is the first formal contact with Argentinean authorities to request the declassification of UFO files.


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Cheers.



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 06:46 AM
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The Agence France-Presse covered the story a couple of days ago.


The Argentine Air Force has created a commission to record and investigate reports of unidentified flying objects (UFO) in the South American country's airspace, a spokesman told AFP Wednesday.
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posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 08:25 AM
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Originally posted by ufoeyes
The Agence France-Presse covered the story a couple of days ago.


The Argentine Air Force has created a commission to record and investigate reports of unidentified flying objects (UFO) in the South American country's airspace, a spokesman told AFP Wednesday.
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Ufoeyes, great post and thanks for the link -guess that's it confirmed it then.




After another military man remarked only a few days ago behind closed doors, the official verbal communiqué has been issued.

According to the AFP and Terra news agencies, a spokesperson for the Argentinean Air Force (AAF) has confirmed today (Dec. 29) the decision to create a commission to record and investigate claims of unidentified flying objects in that country’s air space.

“The Commission for the Research of Aerospatial Phenomena is in the process of being formed,” said Captain Mariano Mohaupt, the AAF’s media consultant. The officer disclosed that the Air Force has already recorded the unexplained experiences of some of its pilots, “and now things will be perceived from the formal, professional standpoint, contributing toward our mission, which is to control our air space.”

The team would be multidisciplinary in nature, including meteorologists, flight controllers, pilots and radar specialists, and shall receive reports made by citizens regarding phenomena seen in space. “There are many reports that are later investigated, and they turn out not involve unconventional events,” explained Mohaupt.

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Cheers.



posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by Kandinsky
I've got a couple of problems with this story. The first is that the two sources are The Examiner and Alfred Lambremont Webre i.e. exopolitics. Neither of these are even distant pen-pals with the Truth. The track record of each of them is beyond the laws of probability when it comes to backing hoaxes, lame dogs and liars.

A couple of months back, during the 'skeptic backlash,' I began writing a thread to highlight the unbelievably high rate of 'fails' committed to the internet by 'The Examiner.' The writers get paid per site-click visit, so generating even one extra visit to their site by posting a thread seemed counter-productive. Say in the past year, they haven't added a single story of substance.

'Ms. Perez Simondini' seems to exist only in relation to Webre's tale and I can't find an original source for the story. Not even in Argentina. There is one Argentinian dead link that refers to 'CEFORA ovni.'



Now that your first "problem" has been addressed in the posts following yours, what is the other problem you had with this story?
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posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 12:37 PM
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Is anyone fluent in Spanish?





posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 01:06 PM
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Interview with Commodore Guillermo Tealdi, Chief of Communications in the Argentinean Air Force about the institution’s policy towards UFOs.






Translation:


Tealdi: The airspace is the responsibility, is under the control of the air force through the available operative means which are the radars installed in different parts of the country.

Hendel: If there was some type of unidentified craft or a UFO, could you tell?

Tealdi: Radars have the capacity of identifying, according to the surface of a celestial phenomenon or object in space there is a bounce in the radar which is identified as an echo; starting from that which appears as an echo the air force has the responsibility of investigating to see what it is, in other words, what are we talking about with regards to that echo.

Hendel: Could we say that they are UFOs?

Tealdi: The air force does not speculate with regards to the existence of manned or craft sent here, that is something that people deal with in a personal way, what the air force does is to try to identify what we are talking about in terms of the security of the air traffic which is our responsibility.

Hendel: What amount of registered echoes are archived?

Tealdi: There are really very few, there about two or three cases but there was not enough time or motive to intercept them [scramble fighters] because they were very brief situations in terms of time.

Hendel: And until now you have not been able to identify an extraterrestrial existence?

Tealdi: Correct.


Following this brief exchange, the reporter told the anchorman about the impending announcement of the creation of an official commission “to investigate celestial phenomena.” Capt. Mohaupt’s announcement a few days later officially confirmed her scoop.

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posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by karl 12
Thanks for the replies and there certainly seems to be a lot of Argentinian reports - there was an extremely interesting video here dealing with UFOs/USOs around the Japanese government's nautical research ship 'the Kaiyou Maru' in Argentinian waters but it appears to have been removed.



Here's the video discussing the 'Kaiyou Maru' case - it starts at 5:35 and the incident was reported in 'Scientific American' magazine:





posted on Jan, 23 2011 @ 12:07 PM
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Argentine Air Force website hacked:


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posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 07:20 AM
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News report from Russia Today (spanish language):


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posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 03:38 AM
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Further info on the formation of the Argentine Government's 'Commission for the Investigation of Aerospace Phenomena':



The AAF launched officially their Commission for the Investigation of Aerospace Phenomena (Spanish acronym CIFA) at a ceremony last Thursday May 26 at the Condor Building in Buenos Aires, the AAF Headquarters where the Commission will operate..

The officer added that “the Argentinean Air Force can confirm that aerospace phenomena which have not been identified are sighted and studied,” but clarified this didn’t mean they are acknowledging visits from other planetary civilizations. CIFA will launch in the coming weeks an official web page within the portal of the AAF where the public can report UFO sightings. Capt. Mohaupt then summarized the Commission’s methodology in three phases:

The first phase will consist in the acquisition of data from primary and secondary sources and “the contribution of citizens and institutions will be crucial in this process. The intermediate phase contemplates a detailed study of each particular case and its documentation. Those phenomena which cannot be explained will pass to a third phase of statistical analysis and cross-referencing of data brought by each specialty.”


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posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 03:54 AM
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There are so many cases that saying these are all fake and hoxes is dumb ignorance... @ skeptics and debunkers





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