40% of canadian teens think america is evil

Nay, I've been Lysergic the smacker of fuzzy animals for as long as I can remember, ...

You remind me of someone I know. He likes to throw stuff like that around in a conversation in real life! to see what kind of reaction he would get.

Originally posted by Gools
Hey there is no PRAVDA here in Canada.

There is the Toronto Sun though. It's pure trash to say the least about it although it doesn't really approach PRAVDA which is just a Russian Tabloid IMO.

Originally posted by jsobecky
It is no surprise that your teenagers have a twisted view of the US.

Actually most teenagers don't really care anymore. Most of them have just tuned it out, because in thier mind it doesn't really impact them first hand. Although if asked in a survery they will probably just say whats the most popular thing to say.

Originally posted by jsobecky
You admit that FOX News is banned in Canada because it promotes a political view that is opposite to your socialistic government.

Ok if we go by your logic then the so-called Socialist Gov't would've silenced CNBC, Fox 29(700 Club and Various Fox News specials ie Iraq, Afghanistan 911 etc) and our very own CanWest corp. Guess what, throughout this whole thing in Iraq(which is not what triggered the dislike and hatred as so many Americans like to believe, but this hatred/dislike has been festering since the Nafta treaty was signed, as the number of Poor and Struggling grew so did the hatred and resentment its as simple as that)

I thought Canada was in favor of NAFTA. This is from your Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade:

As we near the tenth anniversary of the implementation of the NAFTA, it is important to take stock of its achievements. The verdict is clear -- it has been a great success for Canada and its North American partners, and we are committed to ensuring that it continues to help us to realize the full potential of a more integrated and efficient North American economy.

link
[Emphasis mine]

This finally made it to foxnews in video form today......what 2 weeks later?

www.foxnews.com

Hell, I'm almost 50 (in Oct), and half Native American, and "I" think America is evil!

Im close to 50, an American, and I think our national government is evil. And one has to realize that at least a significant minority are complicit in this. The last presidential election was stolen by Jeb Bush for his brother George. How can we go on tirades about democracy around the world when ours is a fraud? Our government is run by sick minded big moneyed corporations, who occasionally throw a social morality bone to religious right winger dogs to keep them happy and quiet. And you would think that people would at least care about their children and grandchildren, but NO making money NOW counts for more than keeping the planet reasonably livable. While we still have some freedom of speech you can only hope that people will see truth and perhaps we can steer the ship of state in the correct direction.

I sure it has to do with the Stanley Cup, the last Canadian team to win the cup was the Montreal Canadians in 1993. OUCH..........

I think it is very sad that FOX News is not allowed to be broadcasted in Canada and yet an Islamic Terrorist Sympathetic is welcomed wthopen arms. But, than again, I think it is far worse that so many liberals in this country truly don't have any concept of history, politics, morals, and for that matter, what mde America what it is.... I don't know if this is a fad amongst immature men and women of this country, but I find it ironic that it was their parents who were the ones who actually fought for the right and freedom for their sons and daughters to speak badly of the governemnt and choose not to pledge allegiance to the flag and even go as far as to turn their back on it.
Churchill once said, "Do you have enimies in your life? Good, because that means you have stood for something..." I hope people will grow into maturity and decide to stand for something more than, putting down the country that has freed more people than Canada and France combined.
Finally, I challange those who disagree to experience life somewhere else without the luxaries that they have now.

Professor:"Finally, I challange those who disagree to experience life somewhere else without the luxaries that they have now" (for a Professor you don't spell so good).

Perhaps you are a prostitute that thinks because you have been GIVEN some luxuries like George W. Bush you should s*ck up to the powers that be. I have WORKED for what I have. I didn't whore like congresspersons, the president, the lobbyists on 'K' street, and big corporations that expect government welfare. Have you read any history? Even a good country can go bad, and if good people sit by and do nothing they must be considered partially responsible.

Originally posted by jsobecky
I thought Canada was in favor of NAFTA. This is from your Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade:

As we near the tenth anniversary of the implementation of the NAFTA, it is important to take stock of its achievements. The verdict is clear -- it has been a great success for Canada and its North American partners, and we are committed to ensuring that it continues to help us to realize the full potential of a more integrated and efficient North American economy.

link
[Emphasis mine]

Yeah Right. If it has been such a success for Canada as this website claims, where oh where are the Jobs? This website claims that our standard of living has been on the rise since '94. Well I havn't seen it. All I see is the Increasing Poverty, little to no job creation and a continued assault on the Canada Health Act which guaruntees that ALL Canadians have access to free Health Care. Basically I see NAFTA and the FTAA as the War on the Poor not the War to Eliminate Poverty.

JSO, What has NAFTA done for Mexico since it's been signed? The Canadian Gov't may support NAFTA but the Poor of Canada do not. Infact Anti-Globalization seems to be getting more and more support lately, as was seen during the last Ontario Conservative Gov't. Groups like OCAP(Ontario Coalition Against Poverty), The Black Bloq(An Anarchist Orgnization), NDP, Green Party, PQ and many many more are against NAFTA. If Canadians were to vote in a referendum to scrap NAFTA(or at least modify it so we stop continually being the bi!@# of the USA) we would probably overwhelmingly vote against NAFTA. I have no links or proof to back it up but I believe it to be true.

As for this situation with Al-Jazeera being allowed and Fox not, well I gotta agree that if Fox is not allowed to be broadcast then Al-Jazeera should't be either. But then again I dislike both networks immensely so I'm biased.

[edit on 21-7-2004 by sardion2000]

Originally posted by sardion2000
Yeah Right. If it has been such a success for Canada as this website claims, where oh where are the Jobs? This website claims that our standard of living has been on the rise since '94. Well I havn't seen it. All I see is the Increasing Poverty, little to no job creation and a continued assault on the Canada Health Act which guaruntees that ALL Canadians have access to free Health Care. Basically I see NAFTA and the FTAA as the War on the Poor not the War to Eliminate Poverty.

Hey, don't blame me or expect me to apologize for your government's screwups and wild-assed assertions. Take it up with your Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade.. they are the ones who made the claim!

Maybe if your government wouldn't censor what you watch then you'd be able to see the royal screwing you're getting.

And tend to keep the views that they had as youngsters.

The point of the poll is this: Canadian teenagers are morally awake and know moral bankrupsy when they see it. They see it in the stupid talk shows (and the so called reality shows), the brutally violent movies coming out of your film studios, and all of the DAMN WARS your country starts.. they know that SOMETHING is wrong with your country, because none of that crap would fly here even for a second.

That is what makes OUR COUNTRY great. However, I'd like to mention something to my Canadian friends here.. do you think that the REST of the world thinks any differently at this point? And do you think that teenagers in other countries think that ... Country X Y and Z might also be 'evil' too? If there was a poll conducted of .. Australian teens, do you think they would agree that (for example) India or .. Russia is evil? No.. I don't think so either. Therefore, there has to be a reason why teens believe that the land to the south of them is corrupt perhaps beyond repair.. we must as responsible citizens find out exactly what this is, and ensure that whatever has made the US turn in to one of the most hated countries in the world doesn't happen here.. so when you hear a teenager talking about "those Americans" for whatever reason.. first of all explain to them the complexities of how bad the educational system is and how most Americans don't know any better any more and that although ignorence in itself is evil that most US citizens don't actually want to hurt anyone, but that quite a few of them have no problem with their governement doing it in their name (so it seems).


If you asked most Canadian teens.. I'm sure that they would agree that it is a shame.. because a lot of US looked up to the Freedom and Liberties that the US claims are so important to them.. but now any child can see for themselves that the US has LOST ITS WAY.. hell, even one of your Ex-presidents said so...

www.truthout.org...

.. how can you argue with that?


And btw.. you can ask all you want "Where are the Muslims in marches speaking out against acts of violence and terrorism!?" but you have a bunch of Canadians sitting here who are asking the same thing about the Americans and their new policy on torture. Remember when your president said how Saddam was a bad guy because of the torture and rape rooms? And now the US is basically doing the same thing to these poor people. That is evil. Period.


Shape up guys.. I know that not all of you are bad.. there are "good" and "bad" people in every country all over the world.. but I think you should take a hard look at yourselves and ask why your neighbours to the north feel this way about you, because you can also say that you don't care what we think.. well fine, don't ask us to partake in your wars anymore or your war projects anymore.. we can't afford it and we are more interested in returning to a peacefull world as soon as possible.. if you guys were not messing around in every country you have a problem with then you wouldn't need the military that you have as these countries don't really have any weaponry to speak of in the first place.. kinda like Iraq for example. Hopefully a few of you understand this (as evident by the messages though as usual many have missed the point) and will do something about it as soon as possible because many of us do not want to think of the average american in this way, but what choice do we have right now?


Yeah, when a leader lies ot the entire world and kills thousands as a result of those lies, and the population goes a long with it.. people are bound to see that as evil as they see (for example) the population of Germany allowing all the atrocities of WW2 to happen.


This isn't complicated.. get your values back in place, and we can all start getting along again.. but until then the people of the US have a lot of work to do to fix what they have done by allowing these monsters to get in to power in the first place. Mind you I don't see it happening any time soon.


-VMX

i am 17 and i live in the US...

let me add on a percent to that 40 percent

I think you lot'll have to borrow that old Millwall chant, "Everybody hates us and we don't care."

As for NAFTA it screwed all countries.
Basically all it did was make the rich richer in the countries involved. Which is precisely why they pushed for it so hard.


America and Canada in the end are very much alike. We have our quirks yes, but overall as a populace we arent that much different. The problems arise when our goverments get involved and almost always screw one of us over.

Interesting statistic. Just like 30.4% of American adolescents aged 12 to 19 are fat lards.

Ultimately it doesn't mean much, however I find such 'facts' can be used at dinner parties to break the ice when there's an uncomfortable silence.

Why I, a Canadian at the age of 20, think America is evil.

1. Their Culture of Consumption
2. Their Culture of Convenience
3. Their Foreign Affairs
4. Their support of "evil" dictatorships in Latin and South America because of American TNCs
5. Their neo-con created War on Terror
6. Their inability to follow the "free-trade" regulations they created for the world
7. Their disregard for the environment and their oil driven economy.

and now we can add to the list because of this thread

8. The general arrogance and ignorance of its population. Although, this is more likely a product of their educational system and mass media, therefore it is not directly the population's fault.


As leaders of the world, America should be setting a good example. Unfortunately, over the past 5 years, they have not.

I am a 19 year old canadian male and while i would not support a view that generalizes something as much as america is evil, i definatley have strong disagreements to most of america policies. and to all the people who said 'who cares what canadian teenagers think' i pity your ignorance. canada will be one of the leaders in supplying america with critical things like water, oil, timber etc within the next 20 years. all i know is if i ever become a prominant member of this countries political system i will not be supporting any pro-american trade agreements.

Originally posted by The Dreaded One
I am a 19 year old canadian male and while i would not support a view that generalizes something as much as america is evil, i definatley have strong disagreements to most of america policies. and to all the people who said 'who cares what canadian teenagers think' i pity your ignorance. canada will be one of the leaders in supplying america with critical things like water, oil, timber etc within the next 20 years. all i know is if i ever become a prominant member of this countries political system i will not be supporting any pro-american trade agreements.

Don't forget electricity.

I gotta admit, them canadian kids are smart. It's no surprise they think we are evil, the USA has been bullying canada for decades. A couple years ago, canda was going to out and out legalize pot (pending a majority YES vote)...but the big bad US basically told them if they did, they would close they borders to them and not import/export anymore goods and probably said a bunch of other stuff to get parliment to not have the vote. So yeah, i think they have a lot of good reasons to hate USA.