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40% of canadian teens think america is evil

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posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by crmanager
OH Canadaaaaa! We love to sneak through your bordeeererrrss.

The Al quieda national anthem.



Come on. You need us. We get lumber, electricity and Molsen. You get to live under the U.S. protection. Kind of like our bit**.


I'll give you two reasons why the USA is our Bit**. We're bigger and we're on top.


To the guy who said the only people who smoke Canadian weed are the ones whom don't know better. Keep telling yourself that bud lol.




posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 04:50 PM
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I'm a mexican american born in california and my sister is married to a guy from ontario, and oh yeah he hates the US with a passion, and last time i went to visit them, everybody was confusing me with a mexican, when i told them i was american, they stopped talking to me. It fact it got really bad when some a$$hole asked me if there were any cars or bikes in mexico the guy just couldn't accept that i was american. Don't tell me that canadians are really respectfull with other races because that's not true, when i went to canada all i got was hate for being an american and discrimination for looking mexican. I don't know how long my sister can stay in that boring country earning half as much as she should be earning here in the US, also while i was there i met a guy from idaho, and he told me that I should say that im from mexico instead of the US because otherwise nobody was gonna talk to me. Just like the americans you met in europe deeznuts. The US hasnt done anything to canada or europe to be hating us like this, theres young guys like me that have nothing to do with the US government or its decisions and we are taking the hate for no reason. My response to that 40% of kids that think the US is evil, is: I DON"T CARE WHAT YOU OR YOUR PARENTS THINK OF ME AND MY COUNTRY.



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 04:51 PM
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This is just great - 40% of teenagers feel the US is evil.

OK, well if we are sooooooo evil, maybe we should just cut all ties with them. Then the Canadian economy falls, and they can't buy computer or pay there phone bills. Then 100% would hate us, but hey - at least they would be justified.



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf I live in Seattle, and we only smoke Canadian weed when we are desperate. Otherwise, we prefer to smoke California green, Seattle basement grown, afghan kush,, or that killer # they grow at the University of Washington. Canadain dope is for people who dont know any better.


I was in a agrement till you said this. Ive been all over the world and back. Ive lived in Portland/Seatle(by far the best palce I found in the states to deal, I suspect there is large scale trading between American Coke dealers and Canandian Weed dealers ), Bakersfeild, Spent time in Ausie Land and Europe. Iam now back home in B.C. I can tell you that the best quality grass comes from the best quality growers, it has nothing to do where you live unless your smokeing outdoor, and who the hell does that now adays but hippys!

So yes you might have a good dealer/grower, but its not cause you live in cali. Plus its alot, alot, alot easier to grow here cause of the fact its canada(if not easier, its "safer")...This is why American drug dealers trade us straight across for weed with coke. Its easier for large drug dealers to get coke from mexico and then trade it for weed across this border than to grow in the states under their strict drug laws. So unless you know your dealers and your dealers grower, I would suspect that that grass is originaly grown in Canada.

Now enough of the weed talk, back to buisness


[edit on 7/9/04 by HumptyDumpty]



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 05:26 PM
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I get my grass from my stepdad, who gets it from his friend who grows the #
. So, yes, its american dope all the way. Nice, smooth, easy high, tastes good, makes me happy.

I also get it from my buddy who works at the University of Washington. The grow some seriously killer buds.

Ive smoked dope in Amsterdam too. Dutch weed is ok, but Ive had better.



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 07:08 PM
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Well it seems some people are posting without reading the entire thread.

I am not spewing "hate" here and my opinions are not based on envy.

I feel bad for the person who ran into a bunch of ignorant Canadians. Hey we have them too. Believe me! I am also not trying to be a Canadian "patriot" or anything like that. We are certainly not living in Shangri La here. We have many of the same problems here.

Skadi you made some very good points in your response to my post. The stuff you are talking about is largely foreign policy based. I do beleive that if the US government was better at foreign policy the world would be a better place. Unfortunately actions from the past have come back to haunt your country.

Both of these points underline the importance of dealing with individuals instead of lumping everyone under a label. I do not hate anyone I have exchanged views with here on ATS. Do I have my own pre-conceptions and prejudices? You bet. We all have them. We have all been indoctrinated in some way or another.



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 07:40 PM
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Well, Gools, youre right. We had something called the Monroe Doctrine for a reason.

The US was never meant to be a team or world player, we were not meant to be a superpower. We have had only about 100 years of having foreign policy, if even that. before that, we were content to kick back in our own country. We never had any alliances, were good at keeping the then imperial powers off our backs. When we started getting involved in Europes petty ethnic warfare, the golden age of America ended.

Thus, a return to isolationism is needed, if it means completely shutting off the entire world, so be it. Im more than aware of why people hate America.

But let it be know, we did not start it. They cry and whine they want us to do this, want us to do that. They bitch we only look out after our own interests (well, duh........who else interests we supposed to look out for? I dont remeber America being created to nanny the whole world).

The situation in the middle east is a prime example. Those fools have been killing and fighting over religon for thousands of years. then the Europeans came in and started running the show. That obviously hasnt worked. Then we go in. It still aint working. If I had my way, a total ban and embargo would be in place against the entire middle east. Let them continue thier petty warfare.

This country has gotten involved in so many foreign affairs its sick. For what? Has it done us any good? No.

On the other hand, I notice people who hate the US come from the most dunious of countries. I find it funny when folks from France, britain, Germany,, Russia, call the US an evil agressor and imperialist. LOOK WHOS TALKING! LMAO! And they say Americans have no clue on history. There are still Germans who actually believe the Nazis were good for Europe and did not kill all those people. Whatever.

Anyway, like I said, US foreign policy has been a dismal failure. I dont think we should have any foreign policy. We need to do something for a change: fix the problems that plague us at home. Screw the world. No more relief, no more UN, everyone thinks they can do a better job than us. History shows this is also false.

The world is a screwy place full of ignorant savages who still cant forget things that happened hundreds or thousands of years ago. Whether they come from "civilized" countries or less than, they continue to kill each other for a multitude of reasons.

The nice thing about America is that it is a country of ignorant savages with short attention spans. We forgive and forget alot easier. japanese? Most people cant even remeber why we were mad at them. In about 20 years, people will forget why we were mad at the middle east.

I cant say this for the rest of the world though. Seems people still go on about some slight that happened so long ago its ridiculous. At least we forget. Thank the gods we have no attention span and bad memories.



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

1) ....Thus, a return to isolationism is needed, if it means completely shutting off the entire world, so be it. ...

2) ...But let it be know, we did not start it. ....

3) ....who else interests we supposed to look out for? I dont remeber America being created to nanny the whole world).

4) ... The situation in the middle east is a prime example. Those fools have been killing and fighting over religon for thousands of years. ...

5) ...This country has gotten involved in so many foreign affairs its sick. For what? ...

6) ... people still go on about some slight that happened so long ago its ridiculous. At least we forget.



1) I agree that a period of isolationism is probably a good idea at this point in time. Though I'm not sure I agree with your reasons. I think most people and therefore most countries want nothing more than to be left alone.

2) "IT" implies a single triggering event. On a case by case basis I would say that in some cases yes in some cases no.

3) The world (in my humble solitary opinion) is not looking to be nannied. Yes a group of rulers or a gov't will pursue their own interests. The problem is the interests that are pursued (more on that in 5 below)

4) It's much more complicated than that.

5) Often for profit, control, power, influence etc. In other words, the wrong reasons (interests)

6) I agree that people will forget discreet injustices, it's the pattern they can't forget every time they see it again.

The problem with the solution you are proposing is that it will never happen. For two reasons.

a) There are other players in the power game.

b) The ruling masters' interests would never be jeopardized in such a manner.



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 09:27 PM
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Ah, yes, the ruling elites. They can always be replaced, ya know. The rich arent immortal, nor are they omnipotent. The might Russian Czars fell.. The elites can fall too.

My reasons for desiring isolationism? because its in the best interests of a sound society and a sound country. Getting involved in lands afar is destructive to us. being a great country has nothing to do with money, wealth, or international power. It has to do with being stable, strong enough to protect ones self, having a society of happy people, happy families, and low stress. We used to have that.

There seem to be alot of countries that want to be nannied, usually by the UN. they want help from outside to solve internal problems instead of dealing with it themselves. And ancient grudges are not so complex. Many conflicts can be simplified when you get to the core reason: us or them, ect.



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 09:34 PM
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I too am waiting for the revolution


Could not agree more with your second paragraph.


The word isolationism though is a bit strong for me. I would settle for all countries minding their own business and tending to their local population's needs. I would still like to see fair trading, cultural exchanges, travelling etc.



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 09:34 PM
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My two cents... and I think it'll be split right down the middle between all the arguments.

First of all... yes indeedy, the U.S. can be very arrogant and self-centered - as a nation. I still remember how when Donovan Bailey won the 100 meters at the Atlanta Olympics in 96, the crowd was so stunned that no one applauded or cheered and Bailey made his tour of the stadium in pure silence... as though the audience could not believe that an athlete from another country could win anything. It's that kind of attitude, the lack of openness to the world, that frustrates a lot of people. And NO, we do not always look to America when there's a crisis. Proof - a few years ago, France spearheaded its own peace initiative in the Middle East... which was unfortunately condemned by the U.S. not supporting it.

If the United States wants to take a leadership role in the world, it should also show some openness to criticism, disagreement and other ideas.

This being said about America as a nation and a power...

I'm a Canadian currently dating an American (long-distance relationship... it works, albeit with a lot of effort, but it's worth it). And one thing I've learned from her is that you cannot cast all people from a nation in the same category, as it were. Some things transcend nationality - and human decency, caring and compassion are as present in Americans as individuals as in people from other nations.

So this is what bugs me about generalization. Criticize America as a power, yes. Criticize Americans as individuals... that's touchy.



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 09:36 PM
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40% of American teens think Canadians are Americans.



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by bartholomeo
I'm a mexican american born in california and my sister is married to a guy from ontario, and oh yeah he hates the US with a passion, and last time i went to visit them, everybody was confusing me with a mexican, when i told them i was american, they stopped talking to me. It fact it got really bad when some a$$hole asked me if there were any cars or bikes in mexico the guy just couldn't accept that i was american. Don't tell me that canadians are really respectfull with other races because that's not true, when i went to canada all i got was hate for being an american and discrimination for looking mexican. I don't know how long my sister can stay in that boring country earning half as much as she should be earning here in the US, also while i was there i met a guy from idaho, and he told me that I should say that im from mexico instead of the US because otherwise nobody was gonna talk to me. Just like the americans you met in europe deeznuts. The US hasnt done anything to canada or europe to be hating us like this, theres young guys like me that have nothing to do with the US government or its decisions and we are taking the hate for no reason. My response to that 40% of kids that think the US is evil, is: I DON"T CARE WHAT YOU OR YOUR PARENTS THINK OF ME AND MY COUNTRY.



Whoa, whoa, whoa there Bart. I was saying I was hanging out with them I wasn't hating them. And you're a little naive when you say that the US hasn't done anything to Canada: Softwood Lumber, BSE, pressuring us for missle defense when we don't want it, the list goes on and on. No overt acts of war but some very illegal economic "protectionism". Softwood lumber alone cost the jobs of 50 000 BC residents.



posted on Jul, 10 2004 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by Majic
40% of American teens think Canadians are Americans.

And they are correct on that one - Canadians are North Americans.




posted on Jul, 10 2004 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by zerotime
hmm. I did a quick search and it sounds like Canada is banning Fox News. Here is an article on it from the Toronto Sun.

www.canoe.ca...

Quotes:

WHY IS Fox News banned from Canada yet CNN isn't? Is it, as some suggest, because Fox News is conservative while CNN is liberal and more acceptable to Canada's governing CRTC?

The CCTA has had an application before the CRTC for what seems like ages. But no response. And the public demand for Fox News grows.

"We don't understand how the CRTC can keep denying Canadians the right to have Fox News," a spokesman said


That's pretty much what I had heard, too. It sure sounds like censorship to me. The Canadian government deciding what the people are allowed to watch - but I guess that what a Socialist government does for (to) you. They must be truly afraid to let opposing ideas be broadcast to their minions.


By the way, as far as the original poll goes, I don't take it seriously at all. At one time or another, 40% of teenagers think their parents are evil!



posted on Jul, 10 2004 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by jsobecky

Originally posted by zerotime
hmm. I did a quick search and it sounds like Canada is banning Fox News. Here is an article on it from the Toronto Sun.

www.canoe.ca...

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WHY IS Fox News banned from Canada yet CNN isn't?


That's pretty much what I had heard, too. It sure sounds like censorship to me. The Canadian government deciding what the people are allowed to watch - but I guess that what a Socialist government does for (to) you. They must be truly afraid to let opposing ideas be broadcast to their minions.


Heh thats a good one. We have cencorship? Bah! After 9PM networks are allowed to swear and show some nudity, does that sound like a censered nation? WHATEVER
Comparing our Censorship laws to the US is just stupid.

The reason why Fox News is getting blocked is because its just another american propaganda tool being sent into our home. Did you know that like 70% of our TV and News comes from the US. And now you're complaining that we're saying enough is enough?

BTW We do get 700 club and if fox news is just as bad at mis-reporting the facts then why would we want another CanWest/National Post
over 65 % of Canadians vote left. It's been that way since Bullrony 'retired' and we in turn tossed his replacment Kim Campbell the shortest reigning PM ever in Canadian history
why would Fox News even think it stands a chance in the Canadian market since it is a well known Right-Leaning news source?

So I can very well see why they don't want Fox News in Canada. We already have one so we don't need one more end of story.



posted on Jul, 10 2004 @ 08:00 PM
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i guess i'm part of the other 60%. Censorhip on canadian tv is a beuracratic nightmare. On vision tv a suppose "religous network", one show got a slap on the wrist for saying homosexuality is wrong. Well come to think about it most things in Canada are a beuracratic nightmare.



posted on Jul, 10 2004 @ 11:05 PM
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Originally posted by sardion2000
The reason why Fox News is getting blocked is because its just another american propaganda tool being sent into our home.
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why would Fox News even think it stands a chance in the Canadian market since it is a well known Right-Leaning news source?

So I can very well see why they don't want Fox News in Canada. We already have one so we don't need one more end of story.

You have said a mouthful, very revealing, and have filled in a lot of gaps in my understanding of Canadians. You admit that FOX News is banned in Canada because it promotes a political view that is opposite to your socialistic government. You are afraid to show opposing views on TV, and your government will not allow the people, and the market, decide what they want to watch. Very interesting - sounds like a textbook totalitarian system to me.

It is no surprise that your teenagers have a twisted view of the US.
:shk:



posted on Jul, 10 2004 @ 11:14 PM
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Very interesting - sounds like a textbook totalitarian system to me.


Hey there is no PRAVDA here in Canada.

Have you ever been exposed to it? You should spend some time up here reading our papers and watching our newscasts before making statements like that.

You'd be surprised that most of it is about boring Canadian politics and current events, with a healthy dose of WORLD news including the US.

I'm also guessing the different point of view would come as a surprise too. Though it is no less valid than yours.



posted on Jul, 10 2004 @ 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by Gools

Originally posted by Lysergic
I worship Satan, eat babies, put them on spikes and smack kittens.




"Shoeboy" is that you?


Nay, I've been Lysergic the smacker of fuzzy animals for as long as I can remember, but sometimes I dream of being a glowstick ninja...



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