reply to post by adjensen
Ya i noticed that about it.
Just look at the guys who wrote the Matrix. Theyre as materialistic as you can get. Its a type of gnostic manicheanism. There are different schools of
'gnosticism' - but the most prevalant and popular is the materialistic - dualistic, relativity between spirit and matter one. The type of gnosticism
that the elites adhere to is the type CG Jung gave expression to in his psychology.
Basically, there are gnostics who want out of the physical world, and so become ascetics, and there are gnostics who separate spirit and matter
completely from each other. The body relinquished to matter, with the spirit involved in the philosophical/spiritual, regulated by a 'unus mundi' or
'christ' as he was regarded by Jung. A self which coordinates both aspects to the personality; evil being rooted in the unconscious (acorrding to
jung) and good to the conscious mind. I of course do not agreee with this model. Good is a superconscious inclination, and evil a materialistic
inclination. One is the drive of the soul - and spiritual, the other the drive opf the body, and material. One acknwoeldges the truth of unity, and
the other destroys that unity to instead impose its own will. The Ego is the actor in this drama. The ego is not 'the source of good' as jungians
idioticly imagine. The ego is impartial. infact, long before the ego learns and understands right from wrong it is essentially ruled over by his
animalistic lower side.
In truth their whole theology and philosophy is one massive delusion because they insist on looking at the world in their pluralistic/polytheistic
manner. As if G-d doesnt want us to conquer our lower natures to do whats good because its good. To be righteous because its right. And to show love
and compassion for others becauses its true.
and if you're not, then who cares.
Im of the belief that G-d loves us, and wouldnt do that to us; not if we trust in him. But its true that there is ultimately nothing to worry about.
G-d is one wherever you go. Whether in this world - or the next, in heaven or in hell, G-d can be found everywhere, because he is everything. Also,
its a biblical and Mosaic belief that G-d really does love all his creatures, and wants our best. when we become conscious of that truth we have
nothing to fear. We can trust that this world is real and the thought im having is an evil obstruction to my service of G-d.
So. Im an optomist. If i were in hell id fine some good or peace in it. Theres always a good to be found, and thats the secret of mans ability to
understand one thing from another. We have to reject the static and the noise that works against us; and in order to grow in strength - like a weight
trainer, one grows only when he overcomes some resistence. Thats why in Jewish thought Satan is seen as ones helper. His sole pupose is to challenge
the soul and act as a weight by which the soul ceaselessly resists in order to grow in spiritual "muscle". This very idea connects one to infinity.
Its not coincidence that the Jewish people have survived extermination attemept upon extermination attempt. Their hearts and minds are attached to the
infinite. No limitation (Egypt in hebrew, Mitzrayim, also means "limitation" - hence the allegorical meaning of the exodus from egypt) can defeat
them. Nothing is too heavy when youre connected to the source of everything.
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