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Boy, 13, Busted (arrested) For Illegal Marker Possession

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posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 03:53 AM
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Originally posted by Whiffer Nippets
I made a thread earlier, in the Social Issues forum, on how more and more "average" people seem to be turning into Fascist control freaks.

WHAT is going on?

The kid has a marker the school prohibits - you take it away from them. That's it. You don't turn it into a TSA style circus of imprisonment.

Jesus. What IS this world coming to???


THIS

F.A.S.T. by DHS - Fascist Attribute Screening Technology
www.abovetopsecret.com...

And you thought the TSA at airports were bad just go look at this...

But sadly few will even pay attention...




posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 05:57 AM
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You know sometimes I wonder what our kids are getting taught in school. Why on earth would the police be involved in something like this? Are we gonna educate the future generation to call the police for stupid things like that? The police are just as bad for turning up, if that happened here the teacher would get a warning for wasting police time.


Peace,

Seq



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 06:10 AM
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I'm sure the child had been made aware of these rules, the news article does not shed any light on whether this is a repeat offense either.

The fact that the child attempted to hide the marker shows a lack of cooperation in response to the teachers attempts to enforce the legislation. Hence the police were involved.

This is for all we know, well documented school policy. The article generates more questions than has answers, this shows poor journalism and a potentially biased presentation of the information.



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 06:14 AM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by DimensionalDetective
 


The teacher and cops are idiots.


I was going to write more but that pretty much sums it up for me.


Ditto.

No point in stating the obvious - the thread title sort of leads your thoughts in the general direction most will come to... this is ridiculous and stupid and shouldn't have happened.

P.S. - this country is honestly becoming more ludicrous every moment



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 06:37 AM
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Good teacher. I hope that can straight up the things a bit. Today in USA many kids don't want to follow the rules at home and school.

That kid doesn't care about school property, that desk painted with permanent marker cost money.

The teacher did right when he called the authority. He risk to loose his job and get sued if he acts by himself, just because a kid.

I live in Newark, NJ, at walking - distance I have 3 or 4 publics schools but I have to pay private school for my kids because the public schools are full of kids with issues.

This story has nothing to do with police state things.



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 07:27 AM
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more nonsense by idiots ...."it bled through the paper" now I guess the poor boy will be stripped of his voting rights ...or why hasn't the parent who bought it being charged with "child endangerment of a desk?

Why is it that the innocent get punished when other people set a bad precedent?

my mind is screaming WTF ...like where are the priorties ?????

police and teachers have enough to do



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 08:09 AM
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come on people

the kid was an obvious terrorist plant the only answer is to put the TSA at all doors with full body scans and groping........i mean pat downs.....of every kid going in.......no time for background checks on the searchers......those old guys hanging around the school every day in there vans will do

we must do this now to save the children and make the world safe for Americans



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 09:17 AM
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This whole story has everything to do with the NWO, Police State, and the MSM too. This story speaks volumes about the society we live in. It's all very Orwellian. "Ignorance is strength! Freedom is slavery! War is peace!"
The whole story is a conditioning tool from start to finish.

BTW. Anyone who hasn't read "The Deliberate Dumbing Down Of America" by Charlotte Iserbyt, should. I highly recommend it. A bit dry. But worth the read. You can get it for free here

Thanks for posting that link to your other thread Zorgon. I had not seen that. Even more conditioning.
edit on 25-12-2010 by Klassified because: ETA



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 09:26 AM
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When they criminalize sharpies, only criminals will have them.

Stupid teacher!



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 10:49 AM
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The teacher should be tied up and drawn mustache and beard on! Jigglypuff anyone? lool.

But yeah this is absurd.



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 11:31 AM
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Do you really enjoy these mundane news articles? I mean I think I've seen about 6 from you this week all talking about ridiculous laws being up held or constitutional rights being demolished... I mean just post one of these stupid stories, we get the point, we really do. Also it's funny that every story you've posted will probably end in a law suit with the person making off with a gross amount of money... Funny how you never post the after affects of these events, I'd like to know how many of these people are now millionaires. I mean the woman thrown to the ground by TSA agents stands to make at least 500 million. Is it really the law thats gone wrong or is it the complaints of the people that are now out of hand because everyone is trying to make a buck. Funny how in every story "someone" is the victim and it's so convenient that by their "story" they always do EXACTLY the right thing and the "law" does everything wrong. I'm starting to notice a trend here.
edit on 25-12-2010 by NoJoker13 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 11:51 AM
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All though I like the idea of criticizing cops doing ridiculous arrests, I think people here are taking it wayyyy too far.

Words like NWO should not be associated lol.



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 12:04 PM
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Cool....Don't like it? Then feel free to skip right past it! That's the beauty of the net---Nobody is forcing you to read anything. You can even place me on ignore if my content bothers you so much. lol.

But don't attempt to tell me what I can and can't post holmes, cuz last time I checked, I also have that freedom to post any story I feel fit to do, and you are not my keeper or controller. If I feel a story deserves a mention, I will post it-Period. I am not asking for your permission to do so, nor will I. Thanks.

As far as this story, I think several of you have brought up some very good points, pro and con.

I would still like to know if anyone can answer my original question: Is a PUBLIC school legally considered PRIVATE proterty, as is pertaining to this particular law in this instance? And if not, why did the cops not take that into account before hauling this kid down to juvenile hall?



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 01:51 PM
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I would still like to know if anyone can answer my original question: Is a PUBLIC school legally considered PRIVATE property,


It seems to be a hybrid.



Property That Is Open to the Public for a Limited Purpose

Your right to access government-owned property that is only partially open to the public is a bit more limited. If the general public is permitted to access only certain areas or for certain limited purposes, you right to access the property for newsgathering purposes is similarly limited. For example, some parts of a courthouse are open to the general public, but portions of the courtrooms themselves are accessible only by the parties in the litigation and judges' chambers are completely off limits to the public.

However, some public property, even though it is open only for limited purposes, can take on the attributes of a public forum discussed above. A classic example of this type of property is public schools and universities. Although public school and university buildings are not wholly open to the public, some parts of a campus may be considered a public forum. If a school's large open quad is accessed from public sidewalks and streets and freely used by the general public with no apparent objection from the school administration, then the quad may be considered "dedicated" to public use, and therefore more like the traditional public forums of the public park and sidewalk. Additionally, if the school opens certain of its rooms for non-school meetings that are open to the public, those rooms, during those times, will be treated as public forums.

Remember that because public schools are not entirely public forums, school administrators often have the discretion to restrict the entry of outsiders, particularly while the school is in session. Check in with the school administration before entering school grounds or you may be liable for trespass. Additionally, some states laws prohibit people from loitering within a certain distance while school is in session. These "school loitering laws" are mainly aimed at keeping sexual predators and drug dealers away from schoolchildren, but be aware that their language may be broad enough to cover lawful or innocent activity as well....
www.citmedialaw.org...



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 04:40 PM
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I would still like to know if anyone can answer my original question: Is a PUBLIC school legally considered PRIVATE proterty, as is pertaining to this particular law in this instance? And if not, why did the cops not take that into account before hauling this kid down to juvenile hall?


I think the cops' participation in it was partly because of their stance that "the law has been broken, a complaint has been filed, so our hands are tied", & possibly partly from a desire to set an example to try and scare the true graffiti artists, who are hard to catch in the act.

It's possible the arresting cop was as disgusted by the complaint, & the need to take the student to a juvenile facility, as most of the people here. They often complain about the decisions of the court messing up their efforts, but in cases like this, I would imagine they're happy to let the court sort things out.

Speaking of which, I hope that bloated toad, uh, that "teacher", depicted while obviously enjoying her 15 minutes of fame, is found to be in the wrong, & has to pay a stiff fine.

All that aside, Season's Greetings to all, & please join me in the hope, & any effort we can make, individually & collectively, for a better world.
Always assuming, of course, that it's not too late (this is ATS, after all...).



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 04:57 PM
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your right, especially head teachers, some of them think they have authority over parents, and talk to the parents like children, and think they have a right to question you if you do something different to everybody else.

for example we tell the kids santa is not real, they think they have the right to question us why we do not teach our kids to believe in santa claus, because they 'consider' it normal and what everybody does....baaaa.

to the O.P., it is disgusting that somebody can be arrested for buying and having something on their person that is not illegal. if they are not allowed them in school then what ever happened to taking it away from the pupil or having a word with the parents, or escorting them out of the building.

mobile phones are not illegal, yet there are places they ask you do not bring them, so what now? people are going to be arrested if they do?



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 08:29 PM
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Wow, Zorgon, that's really creepy! Thanks for bringing it to my attention and everyone here on this thread who might have missed it as I did. S&F for your thread on that - will say too that everyone reading this thread should go take a look at that and watch the video.

YIKES.

Fascist state indeed



posted on Dec, 26 2010 @ 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by PETROLCOIN
Ich schwöre bei Gott diesen heiligen Eid, daß ich dem Führer des Amerika, Barack Obama, dem Oberbefehlshaber der Wehrmacht, unbedingten Gehorsam leisten und als tapferer Soldat bereit sein will, jederzeit für diesen Eid mein Leben einzusetzen!


You know everybody don't know Mexican! Why do you want to post something in Frog?

OK! I know Austrian when I see it and really what does this have to do with the thread? It's so easy to go to Google translate and get anything back in Deutsch.

Getting serious. I tried looking for this teacher on FB and couldn't find her. Must've deleted her account or assumed an alias. There is, however a FB page discussing this incident and it's just about parallel to this thread.

Spitting on the sidewalk is against the law in some cities. If this teacher can find an excuse to waste the time of already limited resources (police officers) for using a Sharpie that bled through onto a desk, she'll waste the polices' time for anything trivial.

This teacher really needs some serious psychological evaluation. If the student pushed her to the extreme, then the student needs some disciplinary action by the school, not the police. Not for something so ridiculously minor.



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 10:23 PM
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"THEY" say that the "Pen is mightier than the Sword"

Well it seems so,if you are armed with a marker you go straight to jail but if you have a knife it's only a short suspension


Small Knife in Lunchbox Gets N.C. Student Suspended, Charged With Weapon Possession
www.abovetopsecret.com...




edit on 29-12-2010 by zorgon because: Phage has been EATEN by Aliens




posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 10:29 PM
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you might want to hide your markers from now on lol.



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