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"I have gay friends, but..." Umm... No, you don't...

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posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 04:40 PM
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reply to post by argentus
 


Wish I could flag your statement along with starring it.

When I was in, I never saw black or white or brown or yellow, gay or straight. I knew some of them were gay but it didn't matter.

I only saw the guys who were as dedicated to covering my ass (no damn pun intended) and saving my life as I was theirs. Brothers.





posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 04:41 PM
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You can choose not to be straight, and you can choose not to be gay.

You can be celibate and not have sex either way.



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 04:44 PM
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reply to post by tiger5
 


Curses, looks like I'm dumpin' the GF and jumpin' ship. Gaydom, here I come!



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by oliveoil
Being Gay IS a choice, Reason I know this is because you have the "CHOICE" not to be!!
Just like being hedro is a choice...However, When it comes to "LOVE" you have no choice

edit on 24-12-2010 by oliveoil because: (no reason given)

edit on 24-12-2010 by oliveoil because: (no reason given)


Are you saying that you feel sexual arousal for both men and women but CHOOSE only to act on that arousal with one of those genders? As pretty as Natalie Portman is, I cannot CHOOSE to be excited by another woman. Where I come from, we call people like you bisexual.



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by thecinic
You can choose not to be straight, and you can choose not to be gay.

You can be celibate and not have sex either way.


Being gay means being sexually attracted to same gender. It does not mean having sex with same gender.

Sexual orientation, both hetero and gay, is NOT a choice, period.



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by Xavialune
Being gay isn't a choice.



Being gay isn't a choice...



by the way, did I mention being gay isn't a choice?


Every single thing you and I do is by choice and eventually we will both answer for every one of them. That said believe what you will, it is your right and I stand by your right to express and believe it. Unfortunately there are many who would love to silence the voices on my side of the discussion on the basis of political correctness,... oh well.



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 04:45 PM
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Jax,

So you had to light an ATS fire just for X-mas.

Yep, I am feeling the warmth here.

edit on 24-12-2010 by Realtruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 04:45 PM
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No, you cannot choose your sexual orientation
Can you just look for a minute what you just wrote? let me make this clear HAVING SEX WITH SOMEONE IS A CHOICE!!!



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 04:46 PM
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reply to post by Maslo
 


Your not gay until you do the act of gayism...

Like participate in gay sex.



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by oliveoil

Originally posted by Xavialune
Being gay isn't a choice.



Being gay isn't a choice...



by the way, did I mention being gay isn't a choice?


Being Gay IS a choice, Reason I know this is because you have the "CHOICE" not to be!!
Just like being hedro is a choice...However, When it comes to "LOVE" you have no choice

edit on 24-12-2010 by oliveoil because: (no reason given)

edit on 24-12-2010 by oliveoil because: (no reason given)


So love is the non-choice factor?

I can go with that, because it means:

So if you are man who loves another man, then you have no choice but to be gay. Or a woman who is inlove with another woman, has no choice but to be a lesbian.



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by oliveoil
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No, you cannot choose your sexual orientation
Can you just look for a minute what you just wrote? let me make this clear HAVING SEX WITH SOMEONE IS A CHOICE!!!


I dont think you understand the definition of words we are talking about.

Being gay means being attracted to same gender. You can not choose who you are attracted to.

A person that is attracted to the same gender, but chooses to not have sex with the same gender, is still gay.



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 04:48 PM
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What it really comes down to is that a homosexual can choose not to engage in homosexual behavior, just like a heterosexual can choose not to engage in heterosexual behavior. Which means a homosexual can appear heterosexual, despite being homosexual. But it's nothing more than an act. A homosexual is still going to be attracted to same-sex. A heterosexual is still going to be attracted to the different sex.



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 04:49 PM
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EVERYTHING is a choice....especially considering sex with the same gender....at some point a decision was made.



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by thecinic
You can choose not to be straight, and you can choose not to be gay.

You can be celibate and not have sex either way.


Choosing NOT to have sex

and

CHOOSING who you are attracted to are two very different things. Right now, as you are typing and NOT having sex, does that make you currently not straight or gay?



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 04:49 PM
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Just because a man is attracted to another man does not make him gay.

He is only gay when he acts upon that attraction....

IE. gay sex
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posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by thecinic
You can choose not to be straight, and you can choose not to be gay.

You can be celibate and not have sex either way.


I'd rather shoot myself. And that doesn't really work out for Catholic priests now does it? I wonder how many "house keepers" have gotten knocked up by priests..



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by thecinic
reply to post by Maslo
 


Your not gay until you do the act of gayism...

Like participate in gay sex.





No, you are gay if you are ATTRACTED to the same gender. No need to actually participate in sexual acts.



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by Sinnthia

Originally posted by oliveoil
Being Gay IS a choice, Reason I know this is because you have the "CHOICE" not to be!!
Just like being hedro is a choice...However, When it comes to "LOVE" you have no choice

edit on 24-12-2010 by oliveoil because: (no reason given)

edit on 24-12-2010 by oliveoil because: (no reason given)


Are you saying that you feel sexual arousal for both men and women but CHOOSE only to act on that arousal with one of those genders? As pretty as Natalie Portman is, I cannot CHOOSE to be excited by another woman. Where I come from, we call people like you bisexual.


LOL that's exactly what I am saying, However you are blurring SEX, LOVE ,LUST,... you must "KNOW" the person whom you have sex with. In other words love the person. The ultimate gift gift of love is being able to create a new life.



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by arbitrarygeneraiist
reply to post by tiger5
 


Curses, looks like I'm dumpin' the GF and jumpin' ship. Gaydom, here I come!


Starred and lmao!



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 04:52 PM
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A man can be attracted to another man
that does not make you gay
what makes you gay is acting on that attraction..



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