US press should fear being targeted: Assange (MSNBC Video Interview Dec. 22 2010 )

Originally posted by Cablespider
reply to post by bigyin

 

Duff Fluff! Enough said.

edit on 23-12-2010 by Cablespider because: (no reason given)

He raises some, imo, valid points.

reply to post by bigyin


Some people are blind and deaf when it comes to what Assange writes or speaks. This was expected, as the campaign against him and the organization he works is very strong.

The questions he raises are perfectly logical and reasonable. This is the sign of the times, people can no longer think for themselves. They need a colored box with a speaker to have an opinion.

has anybody besides me looked
closely at this video? Assange's face
while he talks??

His face morphs several times
during that interview. That's just
creepy. The interviewer never
morphs that I saw, just Assange.

I know some will claim poor video
quality or compression on the
ut upload.

How can Julian morph and not the interviewer ???
If the same compression and quality is on both
people in the video??? really weird

But it was just plum creepy watching this.

not to detract from the op,
just wanted to share my observation.

edit to add:
never mind
the interviewer morphs also
just watched it again

reply to post by CanuckCoder

...With what has been shown by Wikileaks, it turns out, we see the true colors of the USA and other Western Societies. While they preach and ask us to preserve free speech, behind the curtain there are things going on we know nothing about. By the people, for the people?? I can't honestly with 100% certainty say that's true, can you?

I don't propose we all start a rebellion. I propose we play their game and create laws that forbid and punish people for these actions. If we really wanna be mean, we can make it retro-active. If truth is above all, above everything, then learning the truth of our past as well as what is coming in the future are equally important.

Play their game better. It's the most civilized way. It will take work, Wikileaks attempts to do this overnight.

Overnight?

...My generation tried to change the system from the inside, by using the law and playing their game better. We failed.

We failed because "they" run the machine, "they" control it, and thereby, control the population.

But now, there's a new "machine" in town...

reply to post by boondock-saint



I did notice this & read through this thread hoping someone else spotted it. I started taking notice from 12:29 onwards. Viewing it on fullscreen & at 12:50-12:55 you will notice a shadow appear on his left ear then just pop back to normal, as much as i i was hoping he was shape-shifting I think it can & should be put down to video pixel quality.

reply to post by bigyin


I think he is really a good guy. Thats all. No conspiracy this time. At least to me.

Originally posted by RUSSO
reply to post by bigyin

 

I think he is really a good guy. Thats all. No conspiracy this time. At least to me.

Perhaps he is being played by tptb. Who knows. Will have to see what happens next.

reply to post by boondock-saint


You're still distracting from the points he made.

Unless, you propose that he's reptilian or something?

reply to post by RUSSO


So because I discount what one man claims, I'm not thinking for myself? When you're looking for stuff to pin on the guy but can't, his drivel does seem 'perfectly logical and reasonable'. People like that are attracted to unproven nonsense.

When he's questioned about sources he basically says, trust me on this. Read the comments. It's not the first time he's been asked to back up his claims. The guy has all kinds of theories but no proof. Once he was caught copy and pasting an article pushing the idea that Assange worked for Israel, and claimed the article as his own, I decided to move on. He did correct the article by noting the source once the jig was up. It ends up, the source had little to no credibility. A source with no proof.

This is one guy with many unsubstantiated claims and I'm deaf and blind? Give me a break. When I see proof I'll take it into consideration. Besides that, Duff's nonsense doesn't negate the fact that much good has come from this.

Meh - The US MSM is already pretty much bought and paid for.

News here in the US is a lot like the soft drink business.

On one side you've got Coke (Fox News), on the other side you've got MSNBC (Pepsi). Now even though they fight like cats and dogs and their fans are rabid and hate each other - there really isn't any difference between them at all. They are just two sides to the same coin - masterfully packaged and marketed to keep their audiences worked up into a froth wanting more of them and hating the other side.

The rest are just varying shades of blandness and sameness - Sprite (CNN), 7up ( the networks). You get your occasional odd ball stuff. RC (Colbert), Dr Pepper (Stewart), Mtn. Dew (Rush and talk radio)..

But at the end of the day there is one thing common to all of them - they are all corporate owned, and contain whatever flavor (news) their owners thought would sell and they are all designed to make you think they are the best thing ever.

reply to post by Cablespider


if you want to take what I said too personally, if the hat served in you, what more I have to say?to give you an idea, I did not read what you wrote. but it seems you felt what I wrote. No offense.

Originally posted by RUSSO
reply to post by justwokeup

 

The most important one is about people starting to wonder what sort of country the USA actually is.

No offense to whom thinks the contrary, but democracy is in danger in the U.S. and worldwide.

The republic is in danger especially if people think that it is a democracy. Our founding fathers understood what a democracy really is and wanted a country ruled by laws not 51%.




Democracy is the path to the dark side just ask the Romans.



And just to make it clear socialism and fascism and communism are all oligarchies. The truth shall set you free.

reply to post by RUSSO


You replied to a post by bigyin that contained my 4 word quote. Hard to miss so I assumed your comment was directed at me.

I was just defending my position against Duff and your claim people aren't thinking for themselves. I often see his conspiracies used as 'proof' Assange is an agent of some sort depending on what day of the week it is. Considering Duff has no proof, add in your comment about being blind and deaf, and it struck a nerve, that's all.

Edit: I may have been hasty in my reply to you. Bigyin replied to my post about Duff. He was replying that Duff had valid points. Because you replied to bigyin, it seemed like you were defending Duff and attacking me. I apologize if this was not the case and you were in fact referring to those against Assange.

reply to post by Subjective Truth


Capitalism is a terrible idea as well.

There are no government-types that work.

reply to post by Cablespider


No problem.

The way MSNBC, or rather, Cenk Uygur, conducted that interview was highly professional. You could tell that when Assange turned the tables on the definition of a terrorist that Uygur agreed completely. If Assange tried to make that argument on CNN or FOX, he would have been interrupted mid-stream, cut off, and sent to a commercial break.

reply to post by boondock-saint


Bit blocking artifact in highest motion areas in the scene, because of low max bitrate cap in encoding?

there's your explanation.

reply to post by The Sword


A co-operative without all the greedy middleman could possibly work. I mean the problem lies with the pyramid model, the government's power should be the weakest, and the community's power the strongest; likewise the community should have the power to veto anything big government wants to pass unless they geniunely think it's a good idea (then it gets tested on small scale and gradually adopted and our votes count for more; rather than rammed down our throats).

It's the pyramid scheme model, you'll never win at any model using that system of funneling wealth and resources away.