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Originally posted by DeltaChaos
I'm skeptical, and a bit confused in general.
Are you hypothesizing that there are super-AI bots that are actually posting in forums like this one in coherent argument for the purpose of swaying opinion or spreading disinfo?
I don't think a bot could read, understand, and reply repeatedly to an ongoing conversation.
Maybe in some simple form, but considering that much of the content in any forum discussion is either irrelevant or incoherent, I think it would be difficult to create an AI that could discern and adjust accordingly.
However, I do believe that you are correct, but what I think you are actually describing is advertising. Advertising has become much more aggressive within the last couple of decades, and is certainly used for more than selling products and services.
As for the idea that government/corporations would feel it necessary to create this AI bot for this purpose because of the great number of man hours it would take to accomplish the same goal manually, I think that is valid. I just don't think it's actually important enough to them to control people through with this method when television suits the purpose so magically already.
You definitely see the writing on the wall though. With all the rumoring of government and corporations seeking to control access to content on the internet, and more importantly, turning it into more of a product for profit, it is really seeming to be heading the way of television, and will probably end up a similar tool for controlling the minds and pocketbooks of the masses.
Originally posted by davespanners
I think it would be a lot simpler and cheaper to just employ a lot of minimum wage people to do it, they wouldn't even necessarily have to know why they are doing it.
AI just isn't that advanced yet as far as I know
Me UFOs are piloted by the queen
Bot You are Queen Elizabeth?
Me No of course I'm not, I'm talking about the queen flying UFO's
Bot How many words are in your vocabulary?
Me What do you think of the original premise?
BotI think that it is over-hyped. How do you feel about it?
I tried the clever bot with a conspiracy.
It's actually really good at being an annoying troll. I'm quite convinced that at least some of the Trolls on here are AI now
It's exactly like some ATS threads!!
And that is merely a public knowledge AI structure, based upon limited funds... seriously, chat with that one.... I think you will be pretty surprised by how human it can sound at times.
And then just imagine that, with MUCH better, and more in depth programming, coupled with a supercomputer architecture, and a type of learning algorithm.
Yes, but with the advent of the Internet, Television and mainstream media is being largely ignored by large portions of the younger generations, hence... Internet Bots.
One thing about these forum discussions is that they can tend to get emotional, and that definitely shows in the voice of the writer. I just don't know if a machine could convey that emotion.
Not only that, but eventually, patterns would inevitably appear in the writing. And of course there would either never be any typos, or there would be a couple that repeated consistently. If it was to be a secret, hidden interloper bot, it would be discovered somehow. Probably by simply not providing the reactions that other writers would expect.
I agree that the use is prevalent, but one of the distinctive characteristics of the internet is that it allows the user to see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear. It is all to easy for someone to navigate away from that for which they give not a rat's ass, and I think in general, people who use the internet are visiting probably no more than 10 sites that they want to see on a daily basis. All other surfing is on a random basis from those 10 or so sites, but still people are only going to pursue their own interests. I don't think it could be very efficient either for a bot, or a human, to try to get anyone to consume the particular information they needed one to.
Originally posted by davespanners
reply to post by DeltaChaos
Wouldn't it just ignore posts it didn't understand, much like me
Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by Edrick
Why would they need AI to "disrupt" a natural collective that includes millions of divergent and militantly opinionated participants?