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Pope's child porn 'normal' claim sparks outrage among victims

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posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 08:27 PM
Pedophilia goes way back with the Catholic church.

Of course it's nothing new to them.
edit on 23-12-2010 by SinkingSun because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 08:30 PM
his holiness is correct...pedophilia is normal amongst the catholic clergy! this cancerous institution will one day be erased from this earth.

posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 08:39 PM
reply to post by DimensionalDetective

one of the main defenses for the non-exposure and protection of the child abusing priests in ireland in the 70's and 80' by other priests and bishops who were informed of cases of abuse was, that they and very few other priests were even aware of what child abuse was or entailed. this was always to me such a callous defense and obviously now, that the abusers party leader is indicating that it was viewed then as a 'normal' part of society, that defense is shown up in its true light. just like the american, and other governments, it doesn't seem to matter what these hypocritical, greed and power driven, deviant, masquerading organisations do or say, they always remain to sin another day. when people and what will it take. countless thousands of poor innocent children have been brutally raped by these monsters of 'God'. then there was the hideous child abuse scandals involving american politicians and 'boys town' leading all the way up to the whitehouse, which was hushed up by victimisation and murder, and has not been made common knowledge. i suppose all these crimes are 'Somebody Elses Problems' to most of us general public but i am sure that it won't be long now before trouble comes knocking on each and every one of our doors.

posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 08:44 PM
Personally, anyone who has any idea what the Catholic church has done in the past 500 years to normal citizens, and still calls themselves Catholic, has no more hold on Reality. Hasnt it been proven that the Catholic Church is probably one of the most evil institutions to have ever existed. Besides the Nazi party.

posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 09:12 PM
reply to post by DimensionalDetective

I couldn't help but notice that the context of the quote was *missing*. I don't know either way, but it seems highly implausible that the pope meant this as an endorsement of child porn.


posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 09:33 PM


From the early Republican times of Ancient Rome, it was perfectly normal for a man to desire and pursue boys.[38] However, penetration was illegal for free born youths; the only boys who were legally allowed to perform as a passive sexual partner were slaves or former slaves known as "freedmen", and then only with regard to their former masters. For slaves there was no protection under the law even against rape.[39]

The result was that in Roman times, pederasty largely lost its function as a ritual part of education and was instead seen as an activity primarily driven by one's sexual desires and competing with desire for women. The social acceptance of pederastic relations waxed and waned during the centuries. Conservative thinkers condemned it

Since reading a thread on this topic a few years ago I wondered if some Priests are secretly taught Pederasty or try to kep this revolting tradition alive.

Originally posted by DimensionalDetective

In WHAT society was child pornography considered 'normal', as he seems to be fantasizing about?

I watched a documentary that was about photography and remember the shock I got from it,where they said that approx 100 years ago it was very common and accepted by society to photograph nude youngsters.

To me some things in this world are an improvement to years gone by.

posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 09:44 PM

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
Wow, did anyone bother reading the article?

He's condemning it, by saying the world has become more accepting of it and they, the Church, can no longer be silent while the world continues to get worse.

I'm not remotely Catholic and I can understand what he's talking about.

I understood what he wrote, and I still think he's a creepy, lying bastard...

No nation has become more accepting of child pornography. Every nation is making laws that makes this repulsive stuff even harder to find and placing more punishment on people who produce it or have it.

He's a friggin' liar...

posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 10:34 PM

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
Seriously has ATS lost its collective mind?

There was a time on here people actually read articles and actually had individual objective thought.

Instead of thinking for oneself, people here have become no different than those who watch FOX news. They let the news bearer think for them while completely ignoring any objective and rational thought.

The Pope is right. Pedophilia has exploded in the world, especially since the advent of the World Wide Web. Look at the entertainment industry, underage teen celebrities grinding on stripper poles on national televison, sexualization of underage girls by Disney, and the trafficking of underage sex slaves from the third world.

Now back to your regularly scheduled disinformation.

edit on 22/12/10 by MikeboydUS because: .

Thank you. This site is beginning to SICKEN me.

To believe ATS is exempt from the "sheeple" syndrome is faulty.

How many members actually READ the article?

How many made baseless claims such as "Catholics" are pedophiles because THEY LOOK FOR ANY EXCUSE TO CONDEMN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH? You mindless hate-mongers - you condemn the Mainstream Media for putting spin on stories and perpetuating hate, but then YOU enthusiastically spew hate after reading misleading threat titles and failing to LOOK INTO THE ACTUAL CONTEXT IN WHICH THE QUOTE WAS MADE.

READ THE ARTICLE then formulate your opinion. The Pope never condoned pedophilia - he was making an observation about how society views pedophilia. You are welcome to disagree with his opinion on how society views pedophilia, but to claim that the Pope is trying to justify pedophilia or diminish it's evil is a LIE.

Y'all should be ashamed - DENY IGNORANCE my @ss.

This site is a joke now, and it's members are as mindless as those who blankly stare into their "talking boxes" and absorb the propaganda and opinions of others to substitute their own.

I'm done with this #.

posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 10:37 PM
Once again, I READ THE ARTICLE, and the guy's a liar.

No nation has become more accepting of child pornography. So, I'll say this in big block letters...


posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 10:49 PM
I read the article too...

I WISH I could read an article about how The Pope stopped talking about child rape and started turning over names and evidence to police...but we all know that those articles aren't going to be written.

Why are words given so much power? So what...he said child rape is bad...and then he went back home and continued protecting the rapists from the law...

posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 10:52 PM
Okay, I'm not an advocate of the Catholic church or Catholicism in general, nor of the Pope himself, but it has to be said that he wasn't saying "Child porn is normal". He said, as time goes on, the world itself is starting to perceive it as normal, or is being too indifferent to it.

So he was saying it's bad, and deplorable that the world is so indifferent to it, as it would seem. Hypocrite? Yes, a bit. Even though he may believe what he said, I can't say I do. If anything, people are extremely sensitive to it, still.

posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 10:55 PM
I am just about to throw up over this.

Let the world bring an end to these sick old men popes.

They are a corruption and an outrage to the world.

posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 11:20 PM
Sounds to me like you said in the OP "sounds like the true colors are shining through"

I can't understand what is going on with the world these days my girlfriend and I were just discussing earlier today how every single day on the local news a new toddler has been beat to death and now this.

What in the world is wrong with people?

In my personal opinion an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth, If TPTB would make an example out of just one of these sick twisted freaks on national television I guarantee an extreme drop in this sort of crime.

Just my opinion but i think some of you agree


posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 11:36 PM
reply to post by DimensionalDetective

Um, don't be so sure of yourselves. Last I checked under 18 singers were selling their bodies, and people like you and me were looking them up nude on google images. Last I checked, that's child pornography

The Pope's message makes perfect sense. In the US, child pron is becoming normal.

posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 11:39 PM
reply to post by MikeboydUS

Nope. Only about 1 in 10 posters on this site are literate enough to read the article.

Second verse, same as the first.

posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 11:52 PM
This is my belief:

Although I have always suspected that the bible is full of lies, this is the one thing I believe:

The whore of Babylon is the vatican. The vatican is obscenely rich - do you see the vatican saving dying people?

The so-called pope is crap - and all the other popes are crap.

The cardinals in the vatican are hugely rich.

The vatican is totally corrupt.

To all catholic believers - please, get out of the vatican.

posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 12:06 AM

Originally posted by Gorman91

I checked under 18 singers were selling their bodies, and people like you and me were looking them up nude on google images. Last I checked, that's child pornography

I don't know what you are talking about, but it's screwed up you searched for child porn.

posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 12:20 AM
reply to post by The_Zomar

I did not. People of my age group most certainly do, as God knows how many Twilight fans search of that crap, as well as God knows how many Harry Potter fans search for that crap too.

As I said, and as you so awesomely made an example, you are quick to assume, irregardless of truth or not.

posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 01:51 AM

Originally posted by Sanity Lost
reply to post by buddha

Perhaps this is the start of the smoking gun that will end the churches domain.

Bingo. Something that tptb have been wanting to achieve.

This is a pretty big deal. I have a couple of friends whose families are Catholic and have abandoned the church over this. I have to wonder how many more will too.

posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 01:55 AM
reply to post by catwhoknowsplusone

The church is going to be completely destablized in the next few years. I have heard this foretold back when I was a child by John Lame Deer. We will see the rise of the stict neo conservative religions in the next decade and a shift of people leaning into new age or old traditional. It's going to get interesting indeed. We have youth starting to come back home to the reserves and ask the old ones for the traditional teachings. This is a first in a long time since the 70's. The changes are coming.

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