Originally posted by drkid
Originally posted by GenerationXisMarching
reply to post by Clairaudience
it happens on a constant basis really. but i meditate on a constant basis as well. experienced those things and more. the next thing you should do,
and it sounds a lot easier than it is, involves taking that closed eye hallucination and transforming it. your mind may take adjusting. like with the
hallucinations first time may be a few seconds before it collapses, but you would be surprised what happens when you start "playing" with them. you
may get more than you bargained for
as for projecting with ease, your spirit guides know what methid of projection is easiest for you. thing is #1. would they tell you, or make you
learn? #2. can you even hear them if they were trying to tell you?
you cant tell someone the easiest way they can project, but if they try hard enough, they might be able to tell you themselves.
personally i used to race bmx, so am extremely familiar with the sensations of very fast movement, and use this to astral project. im so used to it
that just imagining some of the races id been in was enough to project. i felt myself hit a ramp, i felt the ascension, the very real feeling of wind
on my face, and suddenly its not just a memory, but im actually hovering above one of my favorite tracks.
maybe in reality all astral projection is closed eye hallucination, but in my three years of constant projection, not one second of my entire life on
earth could compare to the detail and clarity of said possible "hallucination"
most people call me crazy when i bring up projection, but if they ever experience it, or a near death experience, they change their tune quick. most
people just need proof, but dont have the patience to search it out. keep practicing op, ur on the right track
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Since i've been really pushing forth with this Astral Projection deal, all I've noticed is i can Lucid Dream every night since i promised myself i was
going to strive for enlightenment. As far as the voices go, yes, if i shift my eyes to the right or left (eyes closed), i can start hearing a high
frequency. Sometimes it sounds like a sharp noise or am explosion. I think that is the silver page i need to hold on to. I notice if i let it go, my
heart starts racing and i have to start all over again.
Its true what you said about the fast motion. I notice when i am doing this the right way, i feel as if i am free falling. Its like when you are in a
roller coaster and you get those awww orgasmic chills of joy through your body! I try to ignore it and just remind myself that my physical body is
laying down, however just the thoughts of me telling myself things are okay, are enough to reset what it is i am trying to achieve. I'll get it
though, eventually. Astral Projection has only come to me accidentally. -_- Darn It!
I'm pretty sure I have astral projected during sp because some weird things happened but I'll skip all that. I didn't make that happen until the onset
of sp presented itself so it's always spur of the moment and not planned out. I used to try to wake myself up with images of falling and the
adrenaline that causes. I then figured out how I could use the adrenaline to project. I haven't done that in a while but i know consciously I am not
that interested in projecting... at least not right now. I feel my interests are at a different station of things.
I just wanted to mention similar things I've noticed though... that you are mentioning... from approaching AP a different way. I get overwhelmed by
thoughts and they sometimes literally make me think I am spinning. It doesn't feel quite like the rushes of adrenaline I normally get when mad or
excited, but I have had them before, it's def hormonal in some way. It gives me butterflies and makes my heart race and makes me a little dizzy. I pay
attention to the current thoughts that cause this of course and wonder about them and then I will hear changes in frequencies in my ears sometimes.
Like my brain had to make an adjustment because I will never simply fade out while sitting in this chair. I just kind of snap out of it even when it's
still fresh in my mind to lead me back in. I just don't want to sit here and zone out.
I don't really want to astral project right now anyway... I'm more interested in the specific things that cross my mind but it could be some small
random detail about a particular thing. I can't go into detail about what that would be because the thoughts are so frequent and not quite constant
but pretty continuous. There are many things that I guess just get tucked away in the back of my mind somewhere and if I thought about it, I would
remember all of it but I'm not thinking of specific things right now as i type this... it's all, you know- back somewhere in the mental storage area.
Not that this fact is important but regardless of what they pertain to, it incites some dramatic physiological reactions. I'd rather be living in the
moment but I guess that's not always so easy. The thoughts are much more interesting than the moment but they are still just thoughts sooo... Maybe
I'm just going crazy.
That would suck. Thoughts are good but by themselves they are just thoughts. What's interesting is what they can do to the
person thinking them. Cause actual things to happen within the person thinking them... biologically.
It makes me not want to concentrate on stuff... like boring everyday stuff. I just want to veg out and get lost inside my head, but that's not really
what I want to do... that is just how things are unfolding now. Well, actually I do like to do that a lot but doing that in itself is not the subject
of the thoughts that inspire my mind to wander. For me, It's generally a phase that could end for any sort of reason... and you never know it seems
when something has got your attention like that.
I guess what I'm saying is the details you described sound like a symptom of something that has got your attention because it sounds like it is
pulling on your energies a certain way. If you have underlying things in your mind that is influencing you, such as something that is making you
angry, it might incite a lot of adrenaline for example... or in my case, when my interest is taken by my thoughts.
I can't help but to wonder if you have something running in the background that is also influencing your actual feelings as opposed to simply be able
shift your energies to give you sensations of altered perception. Can you simply do it at will or do you have to drift. If you have to drift, why?
what is it that you are letting take a hold of you? Is it your thoughts? It would make sense but sort of but it would open an entirely new door to
consider... at the level of how 'will' or 'thinking' has the biggest influence over the efficacy of actually projecting the self.
All this totally being curiosity as opposed to any kind of debate. I can't say that I could completely accept that astral projection could be so vivid
as the previous person was describing... like to the point where you'd actually want to always be astral projecting compared to anything else but
hey... who knows? It's not so intense from my perspective and often short lived but maybe that is just me... and I thought I have had some pretty
weird experiences. I would still rather be doing something else but not just anything. Drifting off, zoning out, getting really out of your head,
going into a trance, getting freaked out by sleep paralysis, sleep and dreaming in general... still ALL much better options than "most
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