Originally posted by Grandma
reply to post by LeoVirgo
We need to be very careful and not forget we have a Creator. His name is God, El, Heavenly Father, and Jesus the light everlasting. God created this
world for us and from the book of Gen. to Rev. it is all explained to how He has brought about man's redemption and salvation. Makes sense if one
has there heart and spirit open to recieve the truth.
When the Second Coming happpens then we all we see from east to west who is comeing back to claim his sheep who hear his voice and heal the earth from
the evil of the works of Satan.
It's all in the book,
Peace to all,
If you were a stranger, I would pass up your posts and let you be with what ever path is for you. But....You are my mother and know my belief and I
really wish you would not preach to me about Satan in whom I have no belief in and you know I have no belief in a Satan. To me, Satan is the flesh of
us, the part of us that gets tempted, the part of our individual experience that does not see we are one in Spirit and does not know that we have a
divine Spirit within us. If I do something wrong, I dont blame something outside of me Satan...I try to see what my earthly body was attracted to,
what tempted me, and learn how to better that next time. I take claim for my wrongs and I dont pass a buck to another for them. If I am tempted, that
is my fault and no one elses. As we learn why we became tempted or gave into a weakness.....we learn about ourselves and this is how we grow in our
Please, why have to come on here to quote me a book when you know I would rather hear from your heart? What was it in my posts that made you so
compelled to tell me of what a book says and that we must be careful....when all my posts talked of was....we are responsible for the wrongs we have
done, we should not be 'given' rewards if we have not earned them, and IF its rewards we are seeking for the things we do.....are we really having a
true intent with our actions or are we doing them to only try to get into heaven. IF you want to talk from your heart of something you found wrong in
what I said...then we can do that. Go back to the posts you replied to me in...re read it...and tell me what I said that is 'wrong' in your eyes.
All I said is, we are responsible for what we do...and mankind has to 'create unity', pull together, go on to do better things, ect....
Some dont know they have the creator within them, but they are still able to be more humble and honest people then many religious people. But to know
the creator is within you....and to be in tune to that...then the creator/spirit can work through you, can manifest 'good things' with you and those
around you. I dont give him a name....nor a gender...for Spirit is beyond all earthly things like genders and names. YOU KNOW what I believe...so
please dont preach to me. I do not make any ONE man God....like you do with Jesus....for I feel I am one with Spirit and I feel Jesus also found this
great 'good' that he was one with Spirit. To say Jesus is God...and forget about all other life with the Spirit in it....takes away a huge greatness
from what is 'God'. I dont hold Jesus higher then any other man whom are all of a divine spirit.
You can believe all you like that all the answers are given to you from a book....I believe 'life' holds the true word and to find it, you must
'live' life in fullness while seeking. To think a true seeker with a honest and humble heart is going to be 'tricked' by some Satan....what is
that??? What kinda world is that?? Then what kind of creator is that?? I would call the creator then the trickster....misleading many, allowing many
to 'not know'...and then if they 'dont know' how can they be held accountable for it?? What kind of 'great one' would do such??
I dont look at God as something separate from me, for Thee fills my being, I can see then in the eyes of all people, I can feel Thee in the wind, in
nature, in any harmony like music and dancing and children laughing.
I dont think man needs redemption....but in good time, when ready, souls will awake to their true nature of Spirit. I dont believe in salvation....I
believe we are already loved and its understood why we are on the path we are on and all is offered to us for 'learning'.
I keep seeing so many say 'truth'. Why is it that so many humbled souls seek and they all receive a somewhat different truth? Because we are all in
need of different levels of soul development, we all have different pasts that are going to relate to what truth we can see and accept, some seek
because they lack feeling loved and this will show in what they receive as truth, some seek because they fear something and this will show in what
belief they feel comfortable with. See Im fine with 'not knowing' everything....Im at peace with thinking 'I dont have to absolutely know' all the
answers in this limited perspective we call life. I follow my heart, ask the Spirit in me to lead that....and that is what works for me. Im at such
peace with my path, more so then ever in my life. Alot of that peace came from....self works on myself, my mind, forgiving myself, forgiving
others...and then loving myself and others, unconditionally.
Personal beliefs are very psychological. People choose 'belief' that serve what they need, like hope, love, acceptance, fulfillment of self, harmony
or unity for the soul, and some even need a 'fantasy world' to look forward to because they have such a hard time with 'life'.
I dont await a second coming....I dont need that belief to fulfill my being. I already feel Thee in me, the kingdom is within me, in Spirit, Im
already home because I am willing to be of use where ever Im needed amongst others that hold the life within them.
What comes from east to west? The wonderful Sun that we need for this earthly life...and what a great thing it is. Even it...holds the Spirit, the
Spirit fills its being, through the Sun the Spirit of life...brings us our Earthly life and experience.
I dont separate anyone from the rights to Spirit....I dont believe in only certain people/souls will be claimed....for all hold the Spirit wtihin them
and ALL are of Thee and children of Thee. The Spirit is THAT great...that all will awake to what they are of at some point, even if its after they die
and they get to see that they are loved and accepted and still have much to learn.
Tell me one thing you blame Satan for for the evils on Earth....and Ill show you a man responsible. This is the age where mankind will face what it
has done...slowly, and stop passing the buck of our wrongs to something outside of us. As one is made to clean up their own messes...they learn to be
If you want to say Satan is responsible for duality on Earth and this was supposed to be a Eden....Ill ask you.....what about any other place in
Space....is there not duality there too? Physical life has duality for a reason...you would learn nothing without it. You are a phase of God in
expression and experience at the same time....and you in that phase....are amongst many other expressions of God in experience...we are in this
experience together, we react off of each other...we respond to the world around us...there is 'oneness' all around us, its everywhere, we are of
Im sure that even if it all was the way you believe...that those that dont hear 'his voice' God would have mercy...for what they 'did not know'.
To think...some wont be ready....and that God wouldnt understand why they are not ready...and OOOOPs its just too bad, your time is up...I just dont
accept that and I wont and the Spirit knows this for I have gone to Thee and said such and what I receive from that is the Spirit is within all and
will be sifted out through all expressions of Thee.
sorry....your posts really rubbed me the wrong way...for you know my path, you know my heart, and I think you just made the posts to spite me and that
is really sad.
While so many seek to 'leave Earth' for their 'rewards'....the Spirit prepares me to stay and finish whats been started. I walked the path of
thinking 'Im one of those ready for heaven....Im one of those ready for salvation...Im one of those ready for ascension, harvest, pick what ever word
you want to use. The Spirit showed me one day.....my own pride in such thoughts and how my ego was being filled with such ideas of needing to
'leave' or thinking I had any more right to anything then any other soul. I can walk with Jesus anytime, I can fine focus and tunement with Spirit
any time....I dont need to be 'taken away' to have such things. To find the God within you, you can find that you are of ALL THINGS. So you can
'connect' to all things, such as Jesus.
The Kingdom is within me, home is not someplace outside of me. If I reach heavens gates and there are still souls that 'dont know' or have 'not
awoken'....I will take the Buddha path and refuse to enter with out them all.
How can you deny any one their spiritual birth right and say that its going to be taken from them if they 'dont believe' or 'dont know'. ? How can
you walk that path? What a sad way to see things. Kinda prideful of your path I guess that there are only SOME sheep and only SOME will make it,
When your Jesus comes and so many have not found the way....how are you going to not worrying about them, how are you going to just forget about so
many lost souls?
I really dont want to debate our paths....each to their own....but you as my mother...keep trying to preach to me in things you know I dont accept. As
a mother, I find this strange....for I would not do such to my own children.
If your path brings you peace and helps you love others unconditionally....then that is what matters. Unconditionally means though....you would still
love those that get left behind....so while you receive your 'glory' I guess you will forget about those that 'did not know' or their soul just
could not understand or could not accept something they could not see with their own eyes, could not find with their own heart, could not feel the God
within them due to all the earthly distractions we have here. If one is not ready to 'see'....they should not be rejected, unloved, forgotten, or
I dont warn people of things, for fear is not the way. I dont warn people of Satan...I warn people of self desires, self wants, I warn them....of
their own self. Not to fear...but to work on their self, face their actions, face their ways, face the fact that what they do, effects others around
them...and the world cant become a better place unless we understand that what we all do, effects others. I live for ONE...and that ONE is all life.
That is what the Spirit has taught me and has led me to do. That is what feels right, and well, within my soul.
While many await their 'eden' to be given to them....I will try to help others here, in the now, go on to do better things 'here'. If we want a
better world, we must manifests it. HOW? God...Spirit....working through us. This, to me, is the 'coming'.
Im so sorry this comes harsh...but I have dealt with this 'belief' being pushed into me my whole life, and I have had to spend many years twisting
out of that 'knot' in my mind and refuse to keep letting you do that. You are not a stranger, you are my mother...and I wish you would allow me my
path as I allow you yours. Warn others all you want...but as you keep warning me, your daughter, this makes it hard in our relations. Do you not think
I worry about you warning my children of this 'satan' that you fear? Do you not see the ways this has effected relations?
Like I said, if this would of been any other poster wishing to warn me of what a book says..I wouldnt even reply. I am laying this posts down for you
though, to remind you....I will not go rounds and rounds with my own mother about our differences. I love you unconditionally...and would rather our
relations not get mixed up with our different spiritual paths again. We have been there and done that many times....we do not agree...you clearly,
clearly, now this. You can posts to others on here all you want about what you believe...and I will leave you to that and will not debate with you on
any of it, I decided some time ago to not post against your beliefs on here anymore and have been able to practice that without any problem. So I
leave you in love, acceptance for who you are, acceptance for what your path is, and hope it all brings peace for your soul.