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Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Kandinsky
I'd imagine, what with humans hunting you for rape, your homes, and meat, that Neanderthal desperation grew exponentially. They copied a lot of stuff from us. Including war.
Originally posted by MrsBlonde
I have read can't remember the source and seen a TV documentary that indicated that Neanderthals had a close range brute force hunting style that was a source of many severe injuries .These injuries were studied by some biologists who concluded that they most resembled injuries suffered by Rodeo Cowboys!
this lead me to conclude that Neanderthals had a culture of competitive bravery in hunting which must have carried into other aspects of their culture as a pervasive mindset. The study had an overall percentage of broken bone injuries that began very early in life.It was rare to find any Neanderthal remains besides infants that not show healed broken bone injuries.
conclusion..Neanderthals lived short brutal lives
they are not thought to have buried women,so I conclude that they had a level of use of women something like what is prevalent in most of Africa today rape and murder of women seeming to be something of a cultural imperative. Same apparently with Neanderthals
it is known that Neanderthals were never numerous even in the pre Homo Sapien days could this set of cultural dynamics be the reason?
at any rate they were far from 'cuddly' but certainly a fascinating species
we may never know the real Neanderthal but political correctness or fads in scientific interpretation obscure or suppress the evidence that we do find
it as unrealistic to paint Neanderthals as poor victims of human savagery as the other way around
I believe that the Neanderthals were in some way as responsible for their own extinction as we were
Just my two cents
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
....it has been discussed that the Neandertals were mostly redheaded creatures. It has also been pointed out that their "stronghold" was the Iberian Peninsula and the British Isle's. One map I saw had their stronghold centered in Ireland.
Originally posted by Illustronic
They appear to look like hearty stock. I suppose it was the superior brain of the Homo Sapien that caused the Neanderthal extinction.
But if the Neanderthal were to have survived to this day, could you imagine the type of racial bias they would be faced with in today's society? Like a Geico commercial I suppose.....
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
....it has been discussed that the Neandertals were mostly redheaded creatures. It has also been pointed out that their "stronghold" was the Iberian Peninsula and the British Isle's. One map I saw had their stronghold centered in Ireland.
I donno, Tex...I'm lookin' at at your avatar and thinkin' you might look a little closer to home. Christmas Greetings to all Primates, Texans included.
Originally posted by Kandinsky
It isn't the first time Neanderthal bones have been found with signs of cannibalism. They've been found often and before we start shaking our heads at the primitive ignorance of a species that eats itself...we did too. What catches my imagination is why? Why did they use cannibalism? These were physically strong individuals and capable of foraging or hunting. They had spears, hand axes and sharp tools, if they hit someone with a rock, they'd know about it.
European populations of H. neanderthalensis have been traditionally thought to be adapted to a cold environment, and thus may have had problems adapting to a warming environment. This may or may not be the case, although it has been suggested that the difference in cold-adaptation between Neanderthals and H. sapiens may have been minor.
Another possibility has to do with the loss of the Neanderthal's primary hunting territory - forests. The Neanderthals hunted by stabbing their prey with spears (as opposed to throwing the spears at their prey). They were also far less mobile than modern humans. Thus when the forests were gradually replaced by flat lands, the Neanderthals would have had great difficulty hunting. In the open they would not have been able to stalk their prey, their stabbing weapons would have been largely useless, and they - unlike modern humans - could not easily chase their prey.
Researches including Karen L. Steudel of the University of Wisconsin have proposed that because Neanderthals had limbs that were shorter and stockier than modern humans, and because of anatomical differences in their limbs, it is theorized that the primary reason the Neanderthals were not able to survive is related to the fact that they could not run as fast as modern humans, and they would require 30% more energy than modern humans would for running or walking. [15] This would have given modern humans a huge advantage in battle. Other researchers, like Yoel Rak, from Tel-Aviv University, Israel have noted that the fossil records show that Neanderthals pelvises in comparison to modern human pelvises would have made it much harder for Neanderthals to absorb shock and to bounce off from one step to the next, giving modern humans another advantage over Neanderthals in running and walking ability. [16]
Although domestication of dogs began over 14,000 years ago, according to Dr. Joshua Akey, University of Washington (UW) assistant professor of genome sciences, the spectacular diversity among breeds is thought to have originated during the past few centuries through intense artificial selection of and strict breeding for desired characteristics.