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APNewsBreak: Nearly 1 in 4 Fails Military Exam

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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:39 PM
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APNewsBreak: Nearly 1 in 4 Fails Military Exam


abcnews.go.com

Nearly one-fourth of the students who try to join the U.S. Army fail its entrance exam, painting a grim picture of an education system that produces graduates who can't answer basic math, science and reading questions, according to a new study released Tuesday.

The report by The Education Trust bolsters a growing worry among military and education leaders that the pool of young people qualified for military service will grow too small.

"Too many of our high school students are not graduating
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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:39 PM
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1 in 4 are failing After upto 75% between 17 - 24 are deemed unable to take the test because they are unhealthy, a criminal or didn't graduate high school. Wow 75% can't even take the test!!!

So the 26% that can take the test 1 in 4 are failing.

Our system is broken when we can't even produce enough people to preform basic math, reading and science.

This speaks volumes about our society. I thought the military lowered it's standards years ago for the Iraq and Afghanistan war to meet recruitment goals.....?

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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:42 PM
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There could be a lot of students who intentionally fail the exam because they don't like the military and don't want recruiters calling them. The ASVAB is not a difficult test.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by LDragonFire

This speaks volumes about our society. I thought the military lowered it's standards years ago for the Iraq and Afghanistan war to meet recruitment goals.....?

abcnews.go.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


When I was in the Navy there was a lot of talk about down sizing, even with the 'wars' going on. You wouldn't know that in boot camp where the standards were a joke, especially when it comes to physical fitness.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:46 PM
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Why would anyone with intelligence join the military at a time when there is an endless war on terror?



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:49 PM
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The education system is WORKING just as it was PLANNED.

You dumb down the populace and then control them with propaganda and disinformation.


Mission accomplished.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:55 PM
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This is all after the tests have been dumbed down several times in the past 10 years.

Good stuff.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by Asperglar
Why would anyone with intelligence join the military at a time when there is an endless war on terror?

Because since 9-11, there's been a drastic and unrelenting upsurge in patriotism and nationalism fueled by MSM (among other places) It's been beaten into our heads that if you're a GOOD American youth, you book it for the recruitment centers. Anyone who thinks outside of this norm is labeled a dirty traitor (aka the liberal label)
Questioning your government is subliminally bad now. You don't ask why they want you to go to war for them, you just do it, no questions asked. You're brainwashed into scorning those who don't enlist or don't support the reasons for fighting. It's a crying shame.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 05:24 PM
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This speaks volumes about our society....


John Dewey, Father of the modern education system, would be happy to see his plan come to fruition.


Dumbing Down America
Dewey's philosophy had evolved from Hegelian idealism to socialist materialism, and the purpose of the school was to show how education could be changed to produce little socialists and collectivists instead of little capitalists and individualists. It was expected that these little socialists, when they became voting adults, would dutifully change the American economic system into a socialist one.

In order to do so he analyzed the traditional curriculum that sustained the capitalist, individualistic system and found what he believed was the sustaining linchpin -- that is, the key element that held the entire system together: high literacy. To Dewey, the greatest obstacle to socialism was the private mind that seeks knowledge in order to exercise its own private judgment and intellectual authority. High literacy gave the individual the means to seek knowledge independently. It gave individuals the means to stand on their own two feet and think for themselves. This was detrimental to the "social spirit" needed to bring about a collectivist society. Dewey wrote in Democracy and Education, published in 1916:


When knowledge is regarded as originating and developing within an individual, the ties which bind the mental life of one to that of his fellows are ignored and denied.

When the social quaility of individualized mental operations is denied, it becomes a problem to find connections which will unite an individual with his fellows. Moral individualism is set up by the conscious separation of different centers of life. It has its roots in the notion that the consciousness of each person is wholly private, a self-inclosed continent. intrinsically independent of the ideas, wishes, purposes of everybody else.



So yes the "dumbing down of US education was done intentionally.

William Schmidt, a statistics professor at Michigan State University has been studying how US students do compared to those in other countries, by 12th-grade, we're at the bottom of the heap, outperforming only two countries, Cyprus and South Africa."
Another study shows the the U.S. ranks 21st out of 29 and 28 percent of all freshmen entering a degree-granting institution required remedial coursework

It should come as no surprise that while our kids learn to be good little socialist, the elites offspring go to schools like Phillips Academy where they receive a CLASSICAL Education.

A friend coming out of Phillips Exeter, never bothered to go to college because he was already AHEAD of most college grads. He went straight into Management at a big corporation based on his education from Phillips Exeter "the strict aim of this boarding school is to prepare students to face the big challenges of the world." The "Great Unwashed" need not apply.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 05:25 PM
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Big surprise. I have two brothers who were and are serving in the military. The older one criticized the younger one in a jokingly manner "You have it easier than I did. We didn't get the special treatment you're getting." The standards are lowered much like any declining nation. It is almost as if the military is literally the War Machine. Not only has the education budget's been reduced while the defense budget raised (it will be more than 650 billion next year) but also the money that goes to education is being wasted on building over-the-top schools with swimming pools and gyms and fancy cafeterias, etc. Who knows how much of the money actually goes INTO the training of the next generations.

This is what the government wanted. A dumber society that is easier to control.

Along with 9/11 and patriotism, the surge in military recruitment is the result of the bad economy and little number of jobs out there. No need for the draft - just worsen the economy. College is expensive and does not guarantee a job and so, many young people join the military to get the money to go to college. Others feel like they have to make something of themselves so they join the military. I myself, a grad student, am lucky to have a crappy job but to be honest, I did want to join the military out of honor. I used to think it was cool as a kid, but thank goodness I went to college instead!


In my opinion, this is all done intentionally. Dumb down the masses, don't make them critical thinkers, glorify triviality, stereotype intelligence as being uncool, nerdy, geeky, etc. It's all frightening how the government doesn't give a .....



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 05:39 PM
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Who knows how much of the money actually goes INTO the training of the next generations.


There is a rather interesting statistic I found that gives us some idea. I graduated college in 1972, so this info is quite interesting to me. Look at the drop in teachers and manufacturing jobs and the increase in Federal Government jobs. The government is getting too top heavy for the working stiffs to support. Remember the 17% is ONLY the federal Government. The last time I calculated all government it came out to over 24%



As percentage of work force from Census figures: (Education is % of the population)
.............................In 1970......In 2006
Manufacturing......24.0%.........10.2% (1996)
Education...............4.4%...........1.1% (1996)
Government.........14.9%.........16.9% (FED)

Manufacturing as of June 2010 11,670,000 7.58%
The USA has lost 1,962,000 manufacturing jobs since 1996.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 05:42 PM
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If you look back at any of my posts that deal with this topic you will see me repeatedly using the phrase "Moronification of the nation" - and yes, it is intentional. It is also unfortunate. Dark, dark times lie ahead.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by jrod
There could be a lot of students who intentionally fail the exam because they don't like the military and don't want recruiters calling them. The ASVAB is not a difficult test.



I took the ASVAB test a few different times and I got I think a 93 on it and I got a few calls and then my friend wanted to get into the marines so I went with him one day and the marine recruiter went hard after me. This was 11 years ago or so.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 06:00 PM
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Anyone remember the 578 million dollar school?? This is just unbelievable spending.

thevirtuousrepublic.com...



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 06:52 PM
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I don't understand where the military is lowering there standards.

When i was in the military the standards were when you got your draft notice you were screwed.
Being over weight would not save you as the military had a special diet program.
It was called 20 mile hikes with full packs and all your equipment.
We even had the brain dead serving in the military that could not read.

I knew i was going to get drafted so i joined the Navy to keep from having to go to Vietnam.
I scored high enough on my tests that they wanted to put me through OCS and make me a officer or put me through nuclear power school. And i almost failed high school.
i lived out side a navy base and sailors i knew had taught me how to take the military test so passing them with a high grade was no problem at all.
I only joined to keep from being drafted so i turn those down and became a mine sweep electrician and they sent me to Vietnam.
But i at least had three hot meals a day and a warm bunk and did not have to sleep in a foxhole.

I cost the government money as i now get a veterans disability pension and free health care from the VA.
I make more money now then my military pay when i was in the military. Thank you Monsanto for agent orange.
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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 06:52 PM
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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 08:48 PM
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I understand the whole dumbing people down so they won't revolt thing, but this is too much.

There has to be a happy middle, where the populous is too ignorant to revolt but smart enough to execute orders, shoot, perform first aid, operate equipment, and give commands.

Besides if they are too dumb to think, some demogogue will lead them like the pied piper to DC and he'll end up running the country.

edit on 21/12/10 by MikeboydUS because: Fnord!



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by jrod

Originally posted by LDragonFire

This speaks volumes about our society. I thought the military lowered it's standards years ago for the Iraq and Afghanistan war to meet recruitment goals.....?

abcnews.go.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


When I was in the Navy there was a lot of talk about down sizing, even with the 'wars' going on. You wouldn't know that in boot camp where the standards were a joke, especially when it comes to physical fitness.


A couple years ago I had to help a friend move her stuff out of her ex boyfriends place. He was ex military and had been back from Iraq for about a year. He warned me about a heavy box and wouldn't let me help him lift it even though I tried. After he had gone in for another box I lifted it and it wasn't that heavy for me at all. Then again I'm 6'2" and 197 pounds, I exercise but never lift weights.
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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 09:49 PM
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This test is ridiculously easy. I took it and scored 97th percentile, and honestly thought it was a joke. I'm NOT kidding. I thought it was going to progressively get harder, then all the sudden I was done, and truly thought there was some sort of prank going on. The material is retarded. I did harder work in 5th grade.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 09:57 PM
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Good God. In the 80's I recall taking applications from high school graduates, and I was stunned.

They can't spell, they can't write, they can't sting together phrases or thoughts, and they can't fill out a simple job application.

Thank you President Johnson for your "Great Society."

It's really great, huh?



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