Apparently Canada over threw the Hatian Guvernment before the Quake...

Apparently Canada over threw the Hatian Guvernment before the Quake...

www.greenleft.org.au

Canadian government's sordid role in the overthrow of democracy in that island country. Canada in Haiti: an invasion and violent coup that overthrew the constitution and elected government of Haiti in February 2004. It places the Canadian government squarely at the centre of the coup plot and its aftermath.

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I was very interested in this story after stumbling upon it today, and was completely surprised by the news Canada had invaded Haiti and overthrew it`s government in 2004. Again, not like 50 years ago, but in 2004! I didn`t even anything about this in the media.

Take a look at the link and give it a read, it`s not that long of an article. Basically it spells out that even though the USA and France were involved in this invasion Canada was the front runner and apparently responsible for sinking it`s economy and the deaths of thousands of civilians.

I know, your probably thinking what I was thinking, `Canada did this, no way...`. I mean, I am Canadian, but since when does Canada invade other countries, and more importantly where did it get the troops to carry out this operation while it also was supplying soldiers to the middle east.

Anyways... Even though this new`s is a few years old now I still find it very interesting. If Canada had entered with the USA and France, why would Canada be the head of this operation? and not the USA? doesn`t this seem a little strange...?

All I can think of maybe it was kind of like a little practice exercise put on by the States for Canada to get some experience in these type of military operations? It just seem`s very odd, especially since the US was present and let Canada do it`s thing.

Here is a quote from the page I just find almost unbelievable:

`Canada justifies its action in Haiti by a new doctrine called "Responsibility to Protect". It is pressing the United Nations to legitimise the doctrine, under which the "great powers of the world" are free to invade or otherwise violate the sovereignty of countries as they choose.`

Canada is pressuring the UN to change it`s policies, and make it easier for them to invade other countries???

I am Canadian, but apparently oblivious to myself and probably most of the nation, Canada seems to living some sort of secret life(lives?) in the corners of the world our media doesn`t reach.

Thoughts?


www.greenleft.org.au
(visit the link for the full news article)

reply to post by loagun


Seems par for the "Clandestine-Course"
I like Ike; and he don't like the Military-Industrial Complex!

I am shamed to be Canadian right now, but its no surprise, the canadian government has been working with the american government since the 90s.

Originally posted by loagun
Anyways... Even though this new`s is a few years old now I still find it very interesting. If Canada had entered with the USA and France, why would Canada be the head of this operation? and not the USA? doesn`t this seem a little strange...?

Why drag the US into this?
Canada can't be responsible for Canadian actions?

In any case I find the source dubious at best.

Well if true I can kinda see why. Canada and Haiti were both French colonies, and I believe both countries still have French as an official language. Haiti still is one of the poorest countries in the world or at least the Western hemisphere. Why not take it over and help their economy by constructing a booming French-Caribbean resort country specifically for Canadian vacations. I guess sharing such a large border with the U.S. finally made Canadians stoop to our level. At least you Canucks have warm, sandy beaches now?

Originally posted by loagun

Apparently Canada over threw the Hatian Guvernment before the Quake...

www.greenleft.org.au

Canadian government's sordid role in the overthrow of democracy in that island country. Canada in Haiti: an invasion and violent coup that overthrew the constitution and elected government of Haiti in February 2004. It places the Canadian government squarely at the centre of the coup plot and its aftermath.

(visit the link for the full news article)

www.globalresearch.ca...

Ya would you not replace Hitler if you could

reply to post by SLAYER69



No, no, Canada can be responsible for it`s actions. I know we weren`t forced into the middle east, our leaders leap on that war. For Canada to be leading a coup to overthrow another counties guverment is just very... well that just never happens; this is probably a first. I mean good for Canada, she grew some balls, but it`s still quite odd especially since it entered Haiti with France and the USA.

Well, howdy doo on all that . . . .

I am a tad puzzled and since I've got to clean the house, finish the damn laundry and a whack of other things before I can lay down my head tonight, maybe one of you brighter-than-me types can shed a little light on the following . . .

What the HELL does Haiti have that Canada wants . . . seriously . . . these kinds of things don't usually take place just for shirts and giggles, so to speak. There's gotta be a reason to put your folks in place over the other folks.

Outside of beaches, some kinda cool waterfront property and a whole lotta rubble, what is it that got the Canadian leaders all bubbly in the loins enought to pull this one off?

Seriously, I'm not gettin' it at this point.

reply to post by GoalPoster


Haiti has plenty of unproven (either) gas or oil fields near Port-au-Prince. Haiti is also the only other French-speaking country in the North-Western Hemisphere and Canada is always looking to assert its influence somewhere so it makes sense. Haiti is also the last large country in the Carribean to not be sucked of $$ from a tourism industry. Establishing and developing one would bring big money.

Haiti is POTENTIALLY a money maker. It's just that its been a mess for the past 400 years, and an absolute wreck for the last 100 years during this period.

LOL BULL#! Canada cant even control Qubec.

reply to post by Insipid2000


Charest seems to handle it, even with all the corruption allegations. And the independance never happened...

reply to post by Portugoal


Canada is sitting on one of the largest oil reserves on the planet right at home in the western oil sands and I can bet a pretty good dollar that most Canadians don't give a thumping beaver's tail about latching on to another foreign-tongued gaggle of malcontents hell bent on forming their own country but slumming off the infrastructure of the remaining provinces.

The potential for a whole whack of nudie beaches, though, probably tingles the loins of more than a few but with all the global warming/climate change/Al Gore's hot air going around, it doesn't sound like they'll be worrying abot that for the next millenium either.

Still not buyin' it.

Outside of somebody trying to sell a few books, I don't think there's much of anything to this.

Yall gotta be effin kidding me...Canada sent a few dozen mounties down there to support the police....
This is utter Bull crap////////////i hardly think that the souce is as credible a sorcha fal or any other dipstick out there with a laptop and a n internet connection....get real....!
Still ole Stevie does have a napoleon complex,....hhhnnnnnnmmmmm

if the usa is the muscle, great britain the brains then canada is the one that knocks on your door wearing a suit, bowtie and a friendly smile.

France was GOOD to their Haiti colony and the people there had jobs growing crops and farming. Almost ALL of their food was locally grown. Their economy was good and France was making a little money.

Bill Clinton rolled in with 20,000 Troops and kicked out the Apartheid guy and took charge of Haiti. Then he got Haiti to sign up to "free trade" and Bill Clinton's Arkansas Farmers dumped their heavily subsidized crops into Haiti....they were cheaper than even the Haitians could grow them.

This ended the agriculture economy in Haiti and the people no longer had jobs. Every last penny left in their country went to Bill Clinton's Arkansas farmers.

The US Senate had Bill Clinton on trial over this about a year ago and Bill's exact words, "Only I will have to live with what we did to the people of Haiti"......

This story is from the Left (Socialist Democrats) trying to cover up for Bill Clinton. It was HE with his order to send 20,000 US Army Troops...that toppled a Democratically elected Government and destroyed Haiti.

The Earthquake didn't destroy Haiti....Bill Clinton did.

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Holy moly , this is hard to swallow seriously, the reason why canada is so involded in haiti, is montreal has probably with NYC the biggest ex pat population of haitiens, canada has been lending a hand in haiti for over 20 years, we send police officers to healp train there police, we accept there political refugees, we send doctors to help, and that all way before the earthquake, our past Governor General was haitien, so plz find me when or how or why woulkd canada try to take over the poorest country in the americas, maybe even in the world.

I dont know who wrought this article and for what perpuse, canada is againts this new election that caused so much uproar, i dont see the point to anything of this ehhehe.

The canadien army had the 4th biggest army in the world after ww2, now its such a tiny force, we have old boats, we buy old brithish and american planes and subs, that dont work lol, seriously, by behing in afghanistan its pretty much what 3/4 of what we got, we had to borrow planes to fly our troops there lol.

So i just dont get it lol

reply to post by GoalPoster


What Canada wants is beyond this realm. Port au Prince. Look into what a person named Rik Clay had to say.

I'll make it easy:

Google Video Link

This is the MOTHER of all conspiracies.

OK, looks like we have a potential conspiracy here!

I recently saw an interview with the overthrown Jean-Bertrand Aristide (Haiti's democratically elected, but coup-removed president) and promised myself to look into it further.
Signs point toward the classic formula: population elects socialist president + socialist reforms = military coup with alleged CIA connections.

Here is the link (I know, I know, Wikipedia, but it's a start!): Jean-Bertrand Aristide

And some of the main points:

[Aristide, known as the] "little priest" was elected President in 1990 with 67% of the vote. He was Haiti's first democratically elected president. However, just eight months into his Presidency he was overthrown by a bloody military coup.

During Aristide's short-lived first period in office, he attempted to carry out substantial reforms, which brought passionate opposition from Haiti's business and military elite.[29] He sought to bring the military under civilian control, retiring the Commander in Chief of the Army Hérard Abraham, initiated investigations of human rights violations, and brought to trial several Tontons Macoute who had not fled the country.[29] He also banned the emigration of many well known Haitians until their bank accounts had been examined.[29]

Sound familiar? These are pretty much the conditions that have led to every coup in modern history!

High ranking members of the Haitian National Intelligence Service (S.I.N.), which had been set up and financed in the 80's by the Central Intelligence Agency as part of the war on drugs, were involved in the coup, and were reportedly still receiving funding and training from the C.I.A. for intelligence-gathering activities at the time of the coup, but this funding reportedly ended after the coup.[35] The New York Times said that "No evidence suggests that the C.I.A backed the coup or intentionally undermined President Aristide."[35] However, press reports about possible C.I.A. involvement in Haitian politics before the coup sparked Congressional hearings in the United States.[36]

Under US and international pressure (including United Nations Security Council Resolution 940 on 31 July 1994), the military regime backed down and US troops were deployed in the country by President Bill Clinton. On October 15, 1994, Aristide returned to Haiti to complete his term in office... on condition that he accept the programs of Marc Bazin, the US candidate that he had defeated in the 1990 election. And that meant a harsh neoliberal program, no import barriers. That means that Haiti has to import rice and other agricultural commodities from the US from US agribusiness, which is getting a huge part of its profits from state subsidies.

Aristide's first term ended in February 1996, and the constitution did not allow him to serve consecutive terms.

Aristide was [re]elected... in the Haitian presidential election, 2000... Although the US government claimed that the election turnout was hardly over 10 percent, international observers saw turnout of around 50 percent, and at the time, CNN Election Watch reported a turnout of 60% with over 92% voting for Aristide.

In February 2004, the assassination of Amiot Metayer sparked a violent rebellion that culminated in Aristide's removal from office... Under disputed circumstances, Aristide was flown out of the country by the US on February 28, 2004.[53]
Earlier in February, Aristide's lawyer had claimed that the US was arming anti-Aristide troops.[54] Aristide later stated that France and the US had a role in what he termed "a kidnapping" that took him from Haiti to South Africa ... along with Aristide family friend Randall Robinson, reported Aristide had told them that he had been forced to resign and had been abducted from the country by the United States and that he had been held hostage by an armed military guard.[57]

Now here is what the OP was originally referencing: The Ottawa Initiative On Haiti

and a quick quote:

The Ottawa Initiative on Haiti or simply the Ottawa Initiative,[1] was a conference that took place in Montreal on 31 January and 1 February 2003, to decide the future of Haiti's government, though no Haitian government officials were invited. The conference was attended by Canadian, French, and U.S. and Latin American officials. What exactly transpired is difficult to say, since Canada is keeping the documents that came out of this conference secret.

Alright then, discussion on!

Isn't this what ATS is all about?

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Hmmmm, now this is better interesting.... I started poking around and came across this website that is loaded with Canadian conspiracies, and the over all theme being that Canada as a peacekeeping nation is a completely myth.

Could Canada be used by bigger powers to infiltrate other nations as 'peace keepers' only then to be hijacked by Canadian or other armies?

One of the most interesting reads is about the conspiracy of Canada having a non-existent military force. Well according to facts here it does, and not only that only that it lies to its own country about its military existence. Also it's documented that Canada actually makes, and exports most of the military weaponry world wide. That in itself is pretty interesting. How could a country that 'doesn't believe in war', 'peace keepers', also be the largest supplier of military weaponry across the globe?

I have always thought Canada had more going on in the background then what was led on. It's actually the perfect setup. Canada is just a big nation where people live in igloo's and say 'aboot' with no military force. It just happens to boarder the most corrupt global power on earth, and 80% if it's economy is intertwined into that nation.

In fact now reading all this stuff, and looking at the obvious it makes completely no sense at all that Canada wouldn't be just as corrupt as the USA, especially since Canada seems to be suppling them with bombs, Canada has advertised itself so well as being the most boring nation on earth it was forgotten a long time ago, and thus lead way for its involvement in corruption to never be seen...

Well that's all for now, I'm going back to reading about giants.

here's that link: www.scoreboard-canada.com...