NET NEUTRALITY: A look at your ISP in months to come...

If this happens which I assume it will eventually since it means more money in the corporations pockets I will have to say goodbye to all my friends here on ATS I will just cancel my internet since it dont NEED it and if i do Ill go to the library.

However what about those programs that mask your IP and re-directs the IP to other countries wouldnt this get past their "Blocks"?? as the content will still be there just blocked depending on your ISP location?? And how many other company's will be forced to go out of business since their website may be included only in premium internet packages and blocked from the people that cant afford the "Premium package"

Bad Bad Bad

Are people actually taking this crap thread seriously?

Do you REALLY think the internet will come in prepaid "packages?"

Originally posted by die_another_day
Are people actually taking this crap thread seriously?

Do you REALLY think the internet will come in prepaid "packages?"

Well if you believe the media reporting that the FCC has approved this, then yes.

www.foxnews.com...
news.cnet.com...

Originally posted by die_another_day
Are people actually taking this crap thread seriously?

Are you upset because out of your last 20 threads none got more than 10 replies??.....



People ARE taking it seriously, and no.. I don't mean the thread

It wont happen because your cable internet provider doesn't need to. I don't think you realize how much cash the internet line of business means for a cable operator. All it would take is a few companies trying to do this and then 1 who doesn't and it wouldn't work out.

Originally posted by whoshotJR
It wont happen because your cable internet provider doesn't need to. I don't think you realize how much cash the internet line of business means for a cable operator. All it would take is a few companies trying to do this and then 1 who doesn't and it wouldn't work out.

This.

Although nothing is as horrifying as thinking that one day you might have to pay for internet in subscription packages like one might pay for their television cable service, the truth is that for companies, it would require ALL of them to switch over at the same time, not just one or two big ones. Unless there are substantial changes to internet infrastructure, all you need is one company to break away from that terrible subscription-based plan and all of the sudden everyone switches over to the obviously better company.

Right now, it seems like this type of internet set up is a long ways away. I could be wrong, but unless there the internet market in every country becomes ruled by a monopoly, there will always be incentive for corporations to have a better internet plan.

My god americans stop complaining about losing your freedom
Here in venezuela:
1-Internet is going to be censored(all content that "may" promote violence and other stuff)
2-The parliament is going to be run mostly by government deputies and most opposition will be silenced
3-Over 700 companies have been expropiated this year
4-Crime rates are skyrocketing each month
5-we keep going down every day

Americans:
1-You're free
2-You're still free
3-You are better financially
4-Stil free
5-You won't get to socialism
6-Things will change in 2012
7-We also have elections in 2012,Chavez has been here since 99 and he can be revoked indefinitely.
8- Stop being paranoid, you won't collapse anytime soon.
9-STOP BEING PARANOID.

If that's true,looks like I'm done using the internet. That's going to far.

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Why don't you guys do something useful and help with development of a torrent underweb; rather than ddosing corporate sites out of existence. You have done little to help our cause but throw gas on an already out of control fire. If you're skills are so leet, take a copy of transmission and figure out how to build it on linux and do some C++ programming. If not, then hack away while the net gets ripped a new asshole by a system that can do a lot more than you can because they can order the manufacturers to design hardware a certain way and order standards groups to include certain things for them. I've been on operation payback irc alot and seen how dead it is. What are you guys doing, really? Yes these corporations deserve what they get but there are better, more productive ways to deal with this problem rather than achieve at best the stalemate which you are currently proposing for us.

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Can you imagine the new viruses that will come out? They access a particular site a 1000 times a second to run your bill up.

I hope some makes an app to get around that.

I haven't had a cell phone for years, I just borrow my roommates.
No home phone, no cable, no internet -- I just borrow internet from my neighbors routers.
I use skype if I need to make a long-distance call.
I download what I want to watch off of pirate bay.

I save $50 a month on internet, $50 a month on cell phone, $50-$100 a month on cable, $20 a month + long distance on home phone. By not playing ball with them I've freed myself from an over a $200 a month ass rape.

oh and I also use a nintendo ds with a flash cart, I save $40 a game because they are not worth $40. The best game I ever bought was quake 2 and counter strike, both cost me $10. The ds with cart and memory card cost me just over $70, all brand new, with a 16gb sdhc class 6 card. Futureshop charges $70 just for the sdhc card I bought for $25, $120 for the ds I bought for $35, the ace card 2 is about $12. The files are free, just download and copy. I would have paid $200 retail had I not done my job as a consumer; problem is most consumers don't and screw us all over.

What idiot consumer decided paying near price at an online store was appropriate? What about all that storefront and theft they save on? Things should be dramatically cheaper but they are not, because these raping corporations collude together to charge the most for everything.

$200 a month is unreasonable for these stupid services they offer but they've largely removed the choice of owning a cell phone; if you do not you are seriously handicapped in todays society. They've got you all by the nuts and you should be getting angry. It's not good enough that they have to make you work but now they require you to have a communications device with which they can badger you when you are spending time with your family. It's a slave pager and tracker. People don't know how to use the off button enough.

reply to post by CanadianDream420


And, if you remember, Comcast’s slowing customer access to BitTorrent over the claimed traffic burden is what brought the FCC into the thick of the net neutrality debate in the first place...

www.nytimes.com...

Monymonymonymonymony..... its all about this. They dont ever get tired to suck money? S/F op.

One question, what happens when someone gets onto your wifi and runs up your bill? Yeah, there's no way this could ever be implemented with all the unsecured wifis in the world. Theyd have so many complaints after the first month that they'd just cancel all the bs.

reply to post by sensible thought


Criminal marketing schemes open the door to this sorta stuff. The problem is with the corporations thinking that we are actually dumb enough to continue buying into their rediculous prices. Why the hell should I work 10 hours a month for a useless piece of crap cell phone that I don't need. $60 to get interupted by my boss whenever he wants is not worth it. I don't need to know what people are doing via text when I am eating dinner, not worth my $60. The only reason why I would ever need a phone is because employers require you to have one to work for this twatt society, otherwise I wouldn't even bother borrowing my roommate's cellphone. If companies need people to have cell phones, or cars, or tools, then it should be part of the package, either handed over or paid for in extra wages. I always get a kick when I see the gall businesses have desiring people to drive and use their own vehicle for a $10-$12 an hour job. What a bunch of parasites.

reply to post by Pobble


They would require people have secured internet or suffer the billing consequences plus a fine, of let's say $1000.

Then people would stop having unsecured internet, thus giving the system what it wants.

Wifi can be secured but it is also easy enough to hack. Hacking will turn rife when websites can make money per visit on the level that isps will be charging people, even at a 1% kickback it'll be more profitable than advertising.

Originally posted by snowspirit
I saw your visual on cnn today. I'm still unsure how this affects us in Canada. They keep talking about tiered service, yet they already do that to us up here. Unless they add on a price per page

Are the wired services really still all at just one price? That would have been nice, I think they penalize us for living rural.

I'm in an area where there is no wired service (farms, acreages around, between forests), and I pay $75 for unlimited satellite service. Basic package is around $30, I think its around 100 hours, and mid service is around $56, which is about 200 or 300 hours only.

Thankfully, I still have just over 2 years on my contract, they cannot charge me higher prices, yet. It's already expensive enough.

Time-based or bandwidth based packages (like modern days mostly) are fine

It's about restricting content here. In the Netherlands this has already been done with free acces to newsgroups a looong time ago.

Originally posted by stealthc
I haven't had a cell phone for years, I just borrow my roommates.
No home phone, no cable, no internet -- I just borrow internet from my neighbors routers.
I use skype if I need to make a long-distance call.
I download what I want to watch off of pirate bay.

I save $50 a month on internet, $50 a month on cell phone, $50-$100 a month on cable, $20 a month + long distance on home phone. By not playing ball with them I've freed myself from an over a $200 a month ass rape.

oh and I also use a nintendo ds with a flash cart, I save $40 a game because they are not worth $40. The best game I ever bought was quake 2 and counter strike, both cost me $10. The ds with cart and memory card cost me just over $70, all brand new, with a 16gb sdhc class 6 card. Futureshop charges $70 just for the sdhc card I bought for $25, $120 for the ds I bought for $35, the ace card 2 is about $12. The files are free, just download and copy. I would have paid $200 retail had I not done my job as a consumer; problem is most consumers don't and screw us all over.

What idiot consumer decided paying near price at an online store was appropriate? What about all that storefront and theft they save on? Things should be dramatically cheaper but they are not, because these raping corporations collude together to charge the most for everything.

$200 a month is unreasonable for these stupid services they offer but they've largely removed the choice of owning a cell phone; if you do not you are seriously handicapped in todays society. They've got you all by the nuts and you should be getting angry. It's not good enough that they have to make you work but now they require you to have a communications device with which they can badger you when you are spending time with your family. It's a slave pager and tracker. People don't know how to use the off button enough.

Must be nice, freeloader. Downloading gigabytes of movies from your neighbours, PAID, connection which will slow him/her down and possibly cost him 4$ a GB extra...

I agree goods and services are over priced, but that's how it is.
Maybe they should charge 1 cent per year to use ATS to weed out freeloaders like yourself.

Let me guess, you are on unemployment because you figure others work to make the world turn.. why should you??

This is a work for Anonymous
let's hope the internet isnt the cause of the next world war..

reply to post by hotbakedtater


I got rid of my verizon phone because for 600 minutes/month, no text, no internet...i was paying 75.00 bucks a month.

We went and got a phone from walmart for 39.99 and then use the straight talk service.
We buy a card per/month unlimited text, minutes and internet for 45.00/month
you can get the 900 min card (includes net and text) for 30.00/month

the reviews are mixed about the company but we have been REALLY happy with it. No problems with phone, service or customer service.

Now if we could find out how to set our electric meter back we'd be in business! ))))))) J/K

reply to post by stealthc

oh and I also use a nintendo ds with a flash cart

can i do that to the wii?