It Begins: Attorny General warns of threat from Radical Citizens

reply to post by Solomons

Ohh please, communism has nothing to do with this and has never been a 'threat' to anyone. Go read the manifesto for christ sake....

The threat is not from communism per se, it is from those who FUND Communism, and use Communism, Socialism and Progressivism to hide their true agenda - Totalitarian rule.

WALL STREET AND THE BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION

..In brief, the tug-of-war in Washington reflected a struggle between, on one side, old-line diplomats (such as Ambassador Francis) and lower-level departmental officials, and, on the other, financiers like Robins, Thompson, and Sands with allies such as Lansing and Miles in the State Department and Senator Owen in the Congress....

At the highest level the German political officer who approved Lenin's journey to Russia was Chancellor Theobald von Bethmann-Hollweg, a descendant of the Frankfurt banking family Bethmann...

The Sisson Documents
...One puzzling aspect in the light of the story in this book is that the documents came to Edgar Sisson from Alexander Gumberg (alias Berg, real name Michael Gruzenberg), the Bolshevik agent in Scandinavia and later a confidential assistant to Chase National Bank...

The Bolshevists, on the other hand, stridently repudiated the Sisson material. So did John Reed, the American representative on the executive of the Third International and whose paycheck came from Metropolitan magazine, which was owned by J.P. Morgan interests.10 So did Thomas Lamont, the Morgan partner who owned the New York Evening Post. There are several possible explanations. Probably the connections between the Morgan interests in New York and such agents as John Reed and Alexander Gumberg were highly flexible..

William Franklin Sands, executive secretary of the Morgan-controlled American International Corporation and a friend of the previously mentioned Basil Miles, submitted a memorandum that described Lenin and Trotsky as appealing to the masses and that urged the U.S. to recognize Russia.

No matter how you look at it the Bankers are laced throughout the story of the Bolshevik revolution. Just because they are bankers and CEOs or corporations does not mean the elite are in favor of true capitalism. Actually they hate true capitalism because they hate competition what they want is complete control and Communism is a great vehicle for achieving it.

"The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it." - H.L. Mencken

It would seem that the government is afraid. Course, they cant admit that.

All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.
Thomas Jefferson

Maybe will be perceived as the " crazies " that founded this country.

A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
Thomas Jefferson

The above quote obviously fell on deaf ears...but soon, our voices shall be heard.

reply to post by dialecticchaos77


Thomas Jefferson said that we need a revolution every 25 years, and like the earthquake we have been waiting for in California, I think we are long over due. I don't have the answer, I don't know the best way to go about doing it, and I know it would be pretty devastating at first, but something has got to happen. The politicians are running this country into the ground, and if someone smarter than me comes up with something that I believe in, you bet I will back them with whatever I can. I'm not say we should start some military coupe, but I believe that the system we currently adhere to needs a huge overhaul. Spending without mindfulness of the future is our biggest problem, and having a huge government is just going to compound that. I don't know if McCarthyism is the way to go, but something has got to give.

I think we're still in the talking stage, to be honest.

Words are more powerful than bullets right now. I've never heard more talk of the wrong doings of the Feds in my entire life.

I genuinely believe that we are witnessing the beginning stages of a mass awakening. Are most of us still hitting the snooze bar? Sure, but the coffee timers have went off, and pretty soon the caffiennated aroma of glorious freedom will make it's way to our bedrooms.....Yadda yadda.

You get my point.

hahaha sucks to be a traitor in the next few years

all their propaganda and other disinfo aint gonna stop good folks from loving freedom, god and the right to self-defense

reply to post by wisintel


What was uppermost on his mind, however, is the alarming rise in the number of Americans who are more than willing to attack and kill their fellow citizens. "It is one of the things that keeps me up at night," Holder said.

Just as well he wasen't around in the time of the wholesale slaughter of Native Americans otherwise he would'nt have slept a wink.

Originally posted by Whereweheaded
It would seem that the government is afraid. Course, they cant admit that.

All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.
Thomas Jefferson

Maybe will be perceived as the " crazies " that founded this country.

A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
Thomas Jefferson

The above quote obviously fell on deaf ears...but soon, our voices shall be heard.

"leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry" ...like bernie madoff, kenneth lay,?....and "take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned" you mean laying me off and sending my job over to china and india?

yeah...all this done by those evil socialist democrats...right...good thing global corporations and their wealthy owners had nothing to do with this...you know those people with hundreds of billions of dollars profiting off of war, disease, bank bailouts, foreclosures, indebtedness, food shortages, etc.
my first thing to check is always, always, always, FOLLOW THE MONEY

reply to post by wheels


I havr to agree and its heartening to here, we might stand a chance afterall.

In the last few days this has been the topic almost everywhere i have went...........not just among the lunitic fringe.......but the maids and managers in the motels i stay at, people in resturants, stores, etc

maybe THAT is whats keeping them awake

reply to post by wisintel


You will see these people manufacture evidence, ruin credibility, monger public fear to justify their means, do everything to cover up their already well established corruption and discretion, protect themselves by hiding, destroying and denying evidence, further their self policing and further limit public access to any semblance of their self governing procedures and actions. but what else is new? I should know; i have an ex-wife who is an attorney who knows the judge (she was given alimony by stating that she was a paralegal that only worked 10 hours per week, despite representing numerous clients in front of the same judges), a friend at the pa attorney generals office, a friend who father is a judge, friends in the local da's office, masters, disciplinary board of the pa supreme court, are all a joke!

This policy of turning Americans against each other , is just really a continuation of the government's distraction policy. They will do anything to keep Americans from focusing on the real problem, which is the abuse of power, and the seizing of all personal rights of Americans from right uiner their noses.
Every week , it seems we have some other emergency that makes it necessary to take some more of our rights away to protect us from ourselves. In fact, the government is the one causing the problems, then they come up with a plan to save us from a problem they created. Isn't America great?
Don't fall for the trap. Each week is a new distraction to keep people from watching the real criminals. That would be the FED, and every other branch of our lovely government, as they try to come up with new ways to take our money, and redistribute it to those in charge, or anyone they see fit.
Enjoy what few fake freedoms you have now. In a short time, there will be no pretense of freedom. You will know that you have no rights, and that this was the plan all along.
I encourage everyone reading this to not believe me. Check it out for yourself. Do your own research. The facts speak for themselves. We are being screwed, blued, and tatooed, all in the name of personal safety. What a crock.

Originally posted by wisintel

... is the alarming rise in the number of Americans who are more than willing to attack and kill their fellow citizens...

Yes, we call them POLICE in most communities...

reply to post by wisintel


First they came for the Muslim and I did not speak out because I was not Muslim.

Then they came for the free speech advocates and I did not speak because I was not using my free speech.

Then they came for the right to privacy advocates and i did not speak because I was not advocating for privacy.

Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me....

altered from:

First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.

wow interesting post OP

Time to claim your rights. Those who dont claim them have none. Citizens are slaves of others. Sovereigns are masters of themselves. If you really want to claim your right look for a local sovereign group. An example would be the Montana freeman, Republic of Arizona, Republic of Texas, Freemen on the land, etc.

I am so tired of reading all this crap. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Plain and simple. You pound on the door hard enough and maybe just maybe you can even get the military in its entirety to stand next to you against the government. Theres already brave Generals abroad turning down order from the current government ( I know I was an S-3 Ops NCOIC for one of them). All thats needed is that charismatic patriot whether soldier or civilian to get this thing started. So who's it gonna be?

Originally posted by Chase19X30
All thats needed is that charismatic patriot whether soldier or civilian to get this thing started. So who's it gonna be?

I would be happy too, but i have the charm and charisma of a badger on meth

but i agree 100%

talk without any action is pointless.......if our founding fathers were as weakwilled as we are we would all be speaking english right now............wait.........ummmmmmmmm..........you know what i mean

could this be a spark for a 2nd revolution or even a second civil war?

reply to post by wisintel


To me this looks like the beggining of a 2nd revolution or civil war.

Today, 12-25-2010, MichaelSavage.com, had a story about an army officer stepping down from his command over the repeal of "Don't Ask-Don't Tell". Some guess that as much as half of the Marine Corps will not re-enlist over this.

Don't go with the "Freemen", you probably will end up dead like Gordon Call (Google him).
Most outfits like the "Freemen" are as far off the deep end as Obama and company, just in a different direction.

These times will take: GOD, Guts, Gumption, Guns, Gold and Gardens. With the help of the first three, we can use the last three to get through these bad times.

I have my own definition for what we need in this country: "Jeffersonian Anarchism" ("That government that governs least, governs best." Thomas Jefferson)

Can be almost absolutely positive that Holder and Napolitano, likely many others, will be looking for a new job in about 25-26 months. They will be among the first to be replaced and hopefully undergo criminal investigations. Treason sounds like a good charge.