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It Begins: Attorny General warns of threat from Radical Citizens

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posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 04:33 AM
reply to post by Pervius

Americans do NOT pick their President. They haven't since 1789. The Electoral College picks the President.

No but doesn't he have to be an elected (by the people) member of the party to get nominated??

Holder was elected by NO ONE..
Yet he could become President before many that were elected..

posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 04:53 AM
so the anti semetic guy, isnt it fishy that the post directly below it looks like its from him? ten minutes after, and they have the EXACT same post count. hes gotta be doing it, and i think thats against t/c and common sense.

if people will do it on youtube..guess they'll do it here

posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 05:06 AM

Originally posted by wisintel
This is step I have been fearing and the one that I have been expecting for a long time. With the whole airport screening fiasco threatening to spill over to trains and buses and the upcoming roll out of "see something say something" Walmart Gestapo, this couldn't have been far behind. The Federal Government with this act tells me they are ready to truly start turning the citizenry against itself. A dark day for America in the midst of already terribly dark few years.

In a rare and wide-ranging interview, the attorney general disclosed chilling, new details about the evolving threat of homegrown terror, and touched on topics ranging from Wikileaks to the prisoners at Guantanamo Bay.

What was uppermost on his mind, however, is the alarming rise in the number of Americans who are more than willing to attack and kill their fellow citizens. "It is one of the things that keeps me up at night," Holder said.

"You didn't worry about this even two years ago -- about individuals, about Americans, to the extent that we now do. And -- that is of -- of great concern." show=GMA

Does this keep Holder up at nights?

There are approximately 24,500 gangs in the U.S (see article 4). There were an estimated 750,000 gang members in 2000. The 2009 estimate is One Million gang members (see articles1 & 2) with 147,000 of them currently incarcerated.

Gangs in U.S.

Criminal gangs in the USA have swelled to an estimated 1 million members responsible for up to 80% of crimes in communities across the nation, according to a gang threat assessment compiled by federal officials.

U.S. Gangs....National Security Risk

Gang related deaths are in the THOUSANDS every year in the U.S......and yet by god they are kept up at night by some spector of....something....out there moving around in the brush like bigfoot and the chupacabra.


posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 05:12 AM
Why would anyone become radicalised? The economy is booming. The banks are now lending to small businesses. Everyone has a job. Americans feel great to be American. I could go on.

I bet the next wave of radicalisation will be the disaffected middle classes. What a chilling thought. intellectual achievement (degrees and certificates) and some material wealth ( rapidly dwindling though) becoming radical as opposed to some innercity brothers being radicalised.

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posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 06:35 AM

Originally posted by John_Rodger_Cornman

Originally posted by dialecticchaos77
reply to post by Solomons

Tell the people of North Korea, Cuba, China, Vietnam, people who grew up in the Soviet Union or East Germany, that communism never hurt anybody. Thanks for showing you true colors.

They are not REAL communists. They are fascist state capitalists. Pure and simple.

Fascist State Capitalism != communism. Sorry.

America is becoming a Fascist state.

USA = Fascist Corporatism / Banker Slave state.

Stop screaming "communism" like you know what it is.

unregulated capitalism and communism are the same thing. Get off your dialectic high horse allready.
Marx was told what to write and funded by the same people that EXERCIZED it into practice with the governments you claim are not them.
Ideology you see takes a back seat to the facts all around you.
It's all about taking the power from the people and giving it to the elite.
So I say to you, "stop screaming" yourself.
Spend some time learning who funded Marx and gave him the ideas to understand why the end result is always different from the ideology you espouse to

posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 06:51 AM

Originally posted by kennylee
Eric Holder and TPTB are just plain stupid. The Citizens are not turning on each other but on a tyrannical government. If he is worried so much about the Citizens, then one way for them to resolve all this is for all of them to step down and resign. That would take care of the biggest part of the damn problem IMO....

Personally, i think this guy Holder and most of the idiots who think of themselves as 'the elite' are doing waaaay too much coke. It's making them even more insane...but confidently so.

They are digging a huge hole for themselves, which is good for the rest of us.

Throw that Holder twit a bigger shovel!

posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 06:54 AM
reply to post by manna2

Its like Casinos. Some day there will be one in every large US city. They will tell you that these are monuments to freedom and free enterprise....even though these Temples of Greed and Houses of Poverty fly in the face of everything you were ever tought or learned about the real world of hard work, savings, frugality in the classic "capitalist" road to slavation.

posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 06:59 AM

Originally posted by starless and bible black
Holder...isn't he jewish?

If the nwo gets their one world government, in fact, then the jews will be in power, because they love power.

They really ought to know better.



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 06:59 AM
aha the end of the free range slave is imminent, looks like they started eating the farmers own vegetables and he is pissed, back in the cage you go

posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 06:59 AM
My first "DP" lol

edit on 22/12/10 by Freedom_is_Slavery because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 07:32 AM
The problem is, how do we wake the ordinary citizen up to what theyre doing and why. I'm sure most people on here know whats up, but I realized just how bad it is that most people I know really do trust their government and LAUGH at the idea they are not working in our protection. It's those people that we need to wake up, and I'm afraid it won't happen until they come to our door and ask for our guns.

posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 07:40 AM
Holder is scared and he should be .. When it is stated in MSM that the United States reserves the wright to assassinate or torture American citizens or any other person then maybe the children will pick up on this notion .Unless they want to use the term do as I say ,not as I do ......peace

posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 07:51 AM

Originally posted by Solomons
reply to post by dialecticchaos77

Ohh please, communism has nothing to do with this and has never been a 'threat' to anyone. Go read the manifesto for christ sake. Anyway, i think this has been building up but is still only a minority of people, i think most are still quite apathetic to the situation...but even a small percentage of angry people seem to be unsettling the government.

If the communist manifesto says something about taking private property without the owner's permission, then yes it is a threat to just about every one. Communists wish to form a mob and take property without permission. That is what I call mob violence. Not sure why you'd be so enthusiastic about that.

posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 08:06 AM
Anyone who has any misgivings about communism and thinks, "Hey it's not that bad" or even "It might be a good thing.".... needs to go buy a copy of Ayn Rands Atlas Shrugged.

posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 08:07 AM

Originally posted by theclutch
reply to post by lastrebel

It's way to late for peacefully! If you have an idea then lets hear it! the powers that be are way to involved to give up peacefully! The only way they are leaving is by forcefully kicking them out!

I'm continually disappointed that more people on ATS are not bringing up the Free State Project. In New Hampshire, the liberty ratings of many politicians are going *up* over time as hundreds of activists have poured into to promote more freedom for everyone and from the Federal Government. About 4% of the (local) state senate is now made up of Free State Project participants. There are regularly rallies in favor of pro-freedom ideas and in support of the particularly bold activists who have been arrested. With decent success at about 700 members I cannot imagine what will happen when the thousands who've signed up start to pour in. Its been projected that only 2,000 members are needed for a very solid success. That is an astonishingly tiny number and its almost half done already. Instead of moaning and groaning about how there is little hope you should be enthusiastic about a solution that is showing to work better than anyone could have imagined.

posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 08:13 AM
reply to post by dialecticchaos77

How was communism a massive threat?? Did I miss something?What sort of threat did the USSR pose that wasn't just as great as that of the U.S? Two different socio-political system yes but non more threatening than the other.

posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 08:15 AM
What they mean is; pissed off Americans becoming critical of the radical government.

posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 08:22 AM
reply to post by wisintel

They are prepping us for a Korean issue/engagement. Dont worry about it theyre so full of ish right now their laws mean nothing. They know their time is at an end. All this BS going on shows their desperation right now. Sit back, enjoy the show and let the good times roll.

posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 08:26 AM

Originally posted by lastrebel
Does this REALLY suprise anyone? We have been moving this direction since bush and comp passed the patriot act and Reagons war on drugs, this is just the next step. The people are getting tired of this so they must now take over the net like they have the other media and start picking up there real targets all along......the free thinkers and outspoken critics. We can still take our country back.....and peacefully too

Originally posted by theclutch
reply to post by lastrebel

It's way to late for peacefully! If you have an idea then lets hear it! the powers that be are way to involved to give up peacefully! The only way they are leaving is by forcefully kicking them out!

Right on clutch...Eric Holder and the PTB have NOTHING to fear as Americans are too stupid, apathetic and too busy "consuming" to become "involved " in ANYTHING but their own interests...after all "Dancing With The Stars" is on tonight.

Oh Please...I've been reading this "We're not going to take it" and "Patrick Henry" and "United we stand" BS for years now.
None of you so-called "Patriots" are going to do a damn thing except sit on your fat butts and spew your "Revolution" rhetoric on blog sites.

Yeah, right! So what have you and all of your so-called Patriot Militia been waiting for…Armageddon?

BUNK & BULL!!! Over the past decade I’ve seen perhaps millions of “Revolution, Militia, Patriot, Liberty, “We the People” TALKERS!!! You TALK & TALK & TALK & RANT & RANT & RANT on blog boards about “rising up” and “overcoming” and “revolution” and “taking down the elite” & “We the people will not be stopped” and "I'm with you...count me in" and "Yeah, RIGHT ON MAN!! We're locked and loaded and ready to bring down those corporate elite bastards!!!" …etc. BULL#, BULL# and more BULL#!!!

But never once have I seen ANY REAL ACTION from any of you so-called American Patriots!!! I don’t even see people “protesting” in the streets over much less horrid situations like we did in my day.

I’m an old man. I have a heart condition.
And I’m honest enough to say that I’m not sure that even if I were 20 years old again would I be certain that I really have enough courage to put my life on the line for a righteous cause like our lost American Liberties and Freedoms. Perhaps, even as I admit that I am a coward, I would need to be more properly motivated.

Perhaps once I finally SAW the movement against such tyranny begins to roll out in a viable, substantive & active way, or actually witnessed my fellow Americans dying in the streets or innocent blood being spilt before my very eyes in this righteous cause I might then find the inner fortitude to join up and put my life on the line. But at least as an admitted coward, I don’t feel I have a right to join in such discussions I hardly ever blog at all. I don’t spend my time talking about how I brave I am and how myself and my fellow Patriots are geared up and ready to go. For me to do that would be the height of hypocrisy.

So, feeling that I am too much of a coward to do so then I certainly wouldn’t sit around blog sites all day TALKING about how brave me and my fellow Patriots were and we’ve been around since 93 (or whenever) and we’re ready to battle the evil forces of the elite and take back out country. BUNK!!!
If you all we’re going to actually DO SOMETHING it would have been done by now!!! If you (and other) great American Patriots are “ALREADY IN PLACE…SINCE 93″ then what on God’s green Earth are you waiting for? Quit attempting to inflate your own egos. If you REALLY have the resources you need to bring about your desired change then (as Yoda says in) “There is no ‘try’ either DO or DON’T DO.” All I’ve ever seen is the latter.

All of you American Patriot bloggers and braggarts…either ACT as you say you would like to act AND claim that you have the power to or QUIT TALKING!!!

I almost never post blogs but I apologize to anybody that I may have offended. I simply had to finally vent what was on my mind.

posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 08:36 AM
Help help!

They're attacking my wife. I'm sure her life is being shortened. I hear that these radicals have killed off 100,000 or more per year in our country with little US Government help to stop them. I have faught these intense radicals and I have hidden away from them since Dec. 1999 - 11 years now.

Please close the cigarette companies as these radicals have a desire to harm American citizens from within the boarders. Please send troops to Virginia and North Carolina.
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