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Report: Some impoverished U.S. counties need foreign aid

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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 11:48 AM
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Report: Some impoverished U.S. counties need foreign aid


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Some American children are facing circumstances so dire that they require foreign aid to supplement services such as tutoring and reading programs, said a report by the Children's Defense Fund released Tuesday.
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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 11:48 AM
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Can we pause for a minute and think about the millions children, in the so called 'only superpower', facing illiteracy? It is shame for the government to spend trillions on the military industry complex when small countries like the Netherlands are paying for the education of american children?
PEople living in those counties should bring this issue to their congressmen ASAP.

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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 11:57 AM
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Quick...somebody give the rich another tax cut!

-sighs-

onward march into the dustbin of history. A country that no longer cares about the education and technological progress of society simply will not exist for very long. Oh well...250 years...not that bad a run considering.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 11:58 AM
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Hold on we need to give another 3 billion to Israel and several hundreds of millions to countries that hate us. *snip* middle and lower class American children, instituting death and hate worldwide is much more important.

 

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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:17 PM
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I've spent some time in some rather desperate areas of West Virginia over the years going back to the years long before this nation's current economic crisis. 20 years later the same problems are still present in the same areas.

The resources have always been available at the State and National level. Just look to the people who make the decisions on where the money is spent. I could go on for awhile about how Sen. Byrd spent and allocated much needed funds!!! He used the states poor as a tool to advance his own career and legacy. He needed to keep the poor in their place to keep getting what he needed. He was not known as the "king of pork" for nothing. I know many areas that never saw a single penny of Byrd's Pork!!

Try not to turn this into class warfare. It is politics pure and simple.

A little foreign aid would be nice when you consider how much aid this nation has given to the world. Just hope that the money does not have to sift through the fingers of a politician first!!



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:21 PM
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Education is a state matter.

There is no Constitutional authorization for federal involvement in education, whether in funding, or setting standards.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:24 PM
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Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:28 PM
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the sad truth is a lot of stupid people are breeding. Where a highly educated person might wait knowing that having a child is a big responsibility not only financially but also in the care of the kids education aka teaching the kid to read and write. While the school system in America says it teaches these things it really doesn't. everyone i know learned to read from their parents before and during school. Now picture parents that don't care about their children and the school is trying to teach sight reading instead of phonics. I could go on about what welfare does but i dont want to demonize people for making a mistake in their life who knows maybe they work 2 jobs and don't have time for their children and maybe some just don't care about the child and want the welfare check in the mail. But there are systems for the children to get better grades in lower income areas for the people working 2 jobs the problem isn't money its lack of control over the child or the parents just don't give a damn. These same parents i bet would be at every football game or sport game for the school if the child had some talent thinking they popped out the golden ticket.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by JoeMaine
Hold on we need to give another 3 billion to Israel and several hundreds of millions to countries that hate us. *snip* middle and lower class American children, instituting death and hate worldwide is much more important.

 

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Exactly!


Foreign aid ain't for poor folks, it's to fill the pockets of corrupt leaders, self interests and getting rid of those who quack too much.

People in the West take everything for granted.Only if they knew whose paying the REAL price for it.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:31 PM
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As an outside observer (i.e. a non American) I would merely deign to make a couple of observations.

On the one hand some people complain that the US works without much of a welfare safety net, so that there is poverty and need. This article is merely identifying what we have all known for some time. I wonder how many people who complain of such things railed against the recent healthcare reforms. The American anti-welfare culture is pretty deeply engrained.

However, regardless of the state of the US society it is always important to note that poverty is a relative term. US citizens are not suffering malnutrition nor are they without opportunity should they have the inclination and the wherewithal to take it. The average American poor person is comparitively rich when set alongside your average Chinese, Somali or Iranian.

As to the US military-industrial complex. Just consider the number of American citizens employed by the myriad companies. Perhaps this is the US version of welfare.

Regards



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.


That's not what the government, bankers and multi-national corporations think like.

For them it's the other way round.

Keep giving the man a fish and he will always depend on you.Teach a man to fish and he ain't going to need your fish no more.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:48 PM
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I know that the U.S. has a serious problem in how
to distribute aid.
In january of this year,the native american reservations
in the dakotas, were hit hard by winter storms.Aid that
was suppose to go to these reservations was diverted and
sent to haiti.
www.huffingtonpost.com...

I feel we should take care of our own first,but,we don't!
edit on 21-12-2010 by mamabeth because: wrong word



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by BigTimeCheater
Education is a state matter.

There is no Constitutional authorization for federal involvement in education, whether in funding, or setting standards.


Your right...education is not a federal consideration.

now..let me ask you something. Should a society attempt to try and educate its population to the highest standards possible? Stop thinking America for now and start thinking "society".

What are some pro's of a highly educated country?

What are some con's?

Which one weighs more...



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:57 PM
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In Appalachia there are many counties which are classified as 'Distressed' meaning they meet 3 necessary requirement to be technically not even developed, probably even considered Undeveloped.


Distressed — these counties have at least twice the national poverty rate and have a per capita market income 67% of the national average or a three-year average unemployment rate that is twice the national average.


en.wikipedia.org...

Which for the statistics used at the time of calculations were 3 year average of 5.0% Unemployment Rate, Per Capita income of $32,930, and a national poverty rate of 12.4%.

When counting how many counties in Appalachia alone that are considered 'Distressed' the number sits at 82 counties.

If you were to have let's say a county that just meets the requirements that would mean the 3 year unemployment rate is 10.0%, per capita income of $22,063 and/or a poverty rate of 24.8%.

Owsley County, Kentucky has a Poverty Rate of 45.4%
Hancock County, Tennessee has an Income of $8,483
Clay County, Mississippi has an Unemployment rate of 13.2%

Now this was before the 'Great Recession' even occured and does not include the counties outside of the Appalachian region.

The problem is not about welfare, we do not need more welfare in this country, what we need are jobs, charitable giving, and community solidarity. Bring the jobs back, end the free trade, end the federal reserve, and lower taxes and regulations on everyone. That will fix the problem, not more welfare.
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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by forklift

Originally posted by SLAYER69
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.


That's not what the government, bankers and multi-national corporations think like.

For them it's the other way round.

Keep giving the man a fish and he will always depend on you.Teach a man to fish and he ain't going to need your fish no more.


One of the few places the constitution has got it wrong is in this area

It is a constitutional function for the government to regulate and protect commerce...so yes, a corporation and a bank is in their domain of influence. the people's education is not beyond "good luck"...because no single or even large group of people effect commerce much.

Some say the constutution is a perfect piece of paper...I personally see it as being constantly amended because it isn't.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:59 PM
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Best thing to do is, if they all become jewish and move to israel. Then they will get millions from the american govt.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 01:01 PM
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Maybe their parents should take a City, State or Federal job. The best of both worlds.

Get paid and do little or nothing for it.

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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 01:45 PM
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Compulsory_education#United_States
Education is compulsory for all children in the United States, but the age range for which school attendance is required varies from state to state. It begins between the ages of five and eight and ends between age sixteen and eighteen.[5] For example, in Illinois, attendance is required through age 17, while in Mississippi it is age 17, and in Oklahoma, age 18. Some states allow students to leave school between 14–17 with parental permission, before finishing high school; other states require students to stay in school until age 18.[5]

Before compulsory free education existed, many children had no access to basic education because their parents could not afford the tuition,[citation needed] or there was need the children to work instead of going to school. As a result of compulsory education, illiteracy is claimed to be greatly reduced, and knowledge of mathematics and other basic subjects increased.
Before compulsory government-funded and government-operated education had been imposed, most children were unprepared to train for most vocations and the professions. As a result of compulsory government-funded and government-controlled education, access to a range of better paying vocations and professions is made possible.[citation needed]
It discourages child labor.

Yes, the laws are state laws. Education has become a topic of national discussion however.


www.enotes.com...
Another explanation is that as children were required to attend school for a number of years, factory owners found it more difficult to exploit the cheap and plentiful child labor. This argument is substantiated by Alabama's decision for a period of time to REPEAL its compulsory attendance law due to pressure put upon state authorities by a company opening a large textile mill in that state. This industry was notorious for its use of child labor.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by paraphi
As an outside observer (i.e. a non American) I would merely deign to make a couple of observations.

On the one hand some people complain that the US works without much of a welfare safety net, so that there is poverty and need. This article is merely identifying what we have all known for some time. I wonder how many people who complain of such things railed against the recent healthcare reforms. The American anti-welfare culture is pretty deeply engrained.

However, regardless of the state of the US society it is always important to note that poverty is a relative term. US citizens are not suffering malnutrition nor are they without opportunity should they have the inclination and the wherewithal to take it. The average American poor person is comparitively rich when set alongside your average Chinese, Somali or Iranian.

As to the US military-industrial complex. Just consider the number of American citizens employed by the myriad companies. Perhaps this is the US version of welfare.

Regards


No offense, but you really don't know much about the US. This is
one of the biggest welfare, entitlement countries on earth. There
are so many millions on the dole, no one really knows how many
for sure. And there are a lot of people in this country who are
hungry and malnourished. Their welfare, food stamps and aid to
dependent children has ran out for many of them. They have sat
around and gotten obese off of the system. There is plenty of money
in this country to feed everyone and take care of all of us.

The problem is, all of that much needed money is going for wars,
bases on foreign soil, the next latest and greatest, tank, missile,
bomb or secret operation, and the millions of leeches creeping
across our southern border to demand their entitlements such as
jobs, free tuition, welfare, food, housing, health care, and the list
goes on and on and on. If we had all of that money in the coffers,
no one in this country would be hungry or out of a job. There is
no end to the greed and corruption that we somehow continue to
let happen. I mostly think we are definitely screwed in this country.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 02:15 PM
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Thank you for the outside view.


The American anti-welfare culture is pretty deeply engrained.



As to the US military-industrial complex. Just consider the number of American citizens employed by the myriad companies. Perhaps this is the US version of welfare.

The anti-welfare culture has been carefully fostered during the last 30 years. The philosophy pushed is "nothing should be done unless someone gets very wealthy in the process" Corporate CEOs and others raking in $10-20 million per year. Some of us older folks remember a time when public education was seen as a necessary task which should be funded whether or not any one got stinking filthy rich.

Now, everyone is thinking, because it has been ingrained for decades that private, for profit education is the way to go. Charter schools, run by for-profit educational corporations with the usual top people making millions.

It's a matter of priorities. Some things should be done even if nobody gets rich off of it. To me, education falls into that category.

The military-industrial complex you mention is made up of myriad corporations, each with CEOs making millions. That is the present US welfare system.



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