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Quake Watch 2011

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posted on Nov, 6 2011 @ 02:51 PM
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Yep, even I hold reservations about that...it's quite disturbing - and topical here in Canterbury.
I know a few 'fanboys' for fracking in Canterbury and must say I've never agreed with it myself (for the record).




posted on Nov, 6 2011 @ 03:11 PM
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While that report does not make pleasant reading, at least you now have a lot of detail on what's considered possible. So, you are way ahead of plenty of people who live in the potentially affected regions.


On the same subject, the USGS report entitled Liquefaction Potential Maps for Memphis, Shelby County, Tennessee is also worth having: just within Memphis alone, the liquefaction potential varies a great deal, not just due to variations in the natural sediment strata but also because of artificial fill. The latter's liquefaction risk factor is difficult to quantify due to a lack of "historic" data, which simply means that since the areas were filled there have been no large quakes and so no-one can be sure what will happen.

But we do know this: in the quakes of 1811/12, islands in the Mississippi River took quite a pounding in some places and banks collapsed or drastically subsided, as did nearby land, sometimes within a range of several miles. Other places got uplifted.

I can't recall if I've posted this one in this thread (sorry, I'm just feeling tired now) but even if so, some members might still want to see it so here's CONTEMPORARY NEWSPAPER ACCOUNTS OF MISSISSIPPI VALLEY EARTHQUAKES OF 1811-1812.

I feel that these accounts give a much better picture of what it was like than a mountain of technical reports ever could. It's a fairly long read but I honestly feel it's worth it.

Mike



posted on Nov, 6 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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Well probably the nukes!!

Or the faults? Were they in the same place?



posted on Nov, 6 2011 @ 04:01 PM
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Except maybe a spectrograph from the same station so you can see frequency content.




What a little cracker! Classic shape.

I know you have the image from TA but the direct waveform of that spectrum is this:




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posted on Nov, 6 2011 @ 04:14 PM
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lol, oh you didn't....


But since you did, I will take the opportunity to point out how long 0 to 1 Hz or so is prevalent through that entire quake, and the attenuation of the higher frequencies over time. There is just no stopping those super low frequencies until they are ready to go on their own. I therefore resent "scientists" playing with the resonant frequencies of human bodies towards a means of control and even death.

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posted on Nov, 6 2011 @ 04:42 PM
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OK. You know as I wrote I thought of you - and a couple of other scientists we have on the thread. A bit too much of a generalisation of course. There are obviously good scientists as well as bad, however I doubt that there are good bankers. Did anyone remember the final scene?




posted on Nov, 6 2011 @ 05:12 PM
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*singing*

Some things in life are bad
They can really make you mad
Other things just make you swear and curse.
When you're chewing on life's gristle
Don't grumble, give a whistle
And this'll help things turn out for the best...

Aaaand...Always look on the bright side of life
*de do, de do de do de do"



posted on Nov, 6 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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The OK quakes showing well on the Ozark Folk Centre seismogram

FCAR.AG.00.HHZ.2011.310

And on Yellowstone seismos H17A.TA..BHZ.2011.310 and look you can just make it out at HAARP HARP.AK..HHZ.2011.310

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posted on Nov, 6 2011 @ 07:37 PM
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"Since mid-2009, the state has had 10 times more earthquakes than normal, said Austin Holland, a research seismologist with the Oklahoma Geological Survey. In 2010, the earth beneath Oklahomans’ feet moved more than 1,000 times, but only 100 or so were strong enough to be felt.

“We have not a clue,” Mr. Holland said of the increase. “It could be a natural cycle; we just don’t know.” "

www.nytimes.com...


Absurd. They don't have a clue. It could be a natural cycle/ or it could be manmade.


"Arkansas also has seen a big increase in earthquake activity, which residents have blamed on injection wells. Natural gas companies engaged in hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, use fluid to break apart shale and rock to release natural gas. Injection wells then dispose of the fluid by injecting it back into the ground.

There are 181 injection wells in the Oklahoma county where most of the weekend earthquakes happened, said Matt Skinner, spokesman for the Oklahoma Corporation Commission, which oversees oil and gas production in the state and intrastate transportation pipelines.

But natural gas companies claim there is no proof of a connection between injection wells and earthquakes, and a study released earlier this year by an Oklahoma Geological Survey seismologist seems to back that up. It found most of the state's seismic activity didn't appear to be tied to the wells, although more investigation was needed.

"It's a real mystery," seismologist Austin Holland of the Oklahoma Geological Survey said of the recent shaking.

"At this point, there's no reason to think that the earthquakes would be caused by anything other than natural" shifts in the Earth's crust, Holland said.

Earle said he couldn't comment on the relationship between fracking, injection wells and earthquakes."

www.google.com...

There is no mystery. There are 181 injection wells near the epicenter. Injection is proven to cause earthquakes. And now fracking is known to cause earthquakes.

They are fracking and injection wells all over the region. A region with faults.

There is no mystery.

Atlantis is a mystery.
This is not.



posted on Nov, 6 2011 @ 07:56 PM
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“We have not a clue,” Mr. Holland said of the increase. “It could be a natural cycle; we just don’t know.”


Scientists!
Again!!


Why don't they go an get jobs as bottle washers? They might succeed at that. They are obviously failing at Geology!

But think about what I posted. Oklahoma Geological Society Magazine - and the title - Shale Shakers. You think they could be just a teensy weensy bit biased in favour of the frackers?



posted on Nov, 6 2011 @ 08:03 PM
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I use the Hobbs HHAR which is in one of the parks on the Beaver lake its closer and it shows up really well.



posted on Nov, 6 2011 @ 08:12 PM
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I don't have any scientific backround. I am a searcher, I am a watcher, I am a feeler and sometimes more often than not I sense things - sometime wrong most time right :-(.

I DO NOT have a good feeling here! MamaJ - you felt this too - the day prior you were here crawling out of your skin I heard you, knew your feeling but thought my feeling was over on the Canary Islands but here it is. Now - I am really crawling out of my skin..... This is not behaving in any fashion I am use to observing... I am very concerned!!!!

Folks in the area - please, please be on guard and be prepared -- just in case.

AND where the heck is Robin??? This must be driving him up a pole!



posted on Nov, 6 2011 @ 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by diamondsmith
One million dollar question.What is the link between Ron Paul ears and the California collapse into the ocean?


That may be a form of the Theory, probably similar to the "Butterfly Effect."

Back to topic:

Fracking on a known fault line/area... That's about as smart as goose-stepping through a known land mine field. Stomp, stomp, Stomp... BOOM!

/tip_hat to Robin.


The only Harp you should be worried about is the one in my fridge, if you are between it and me, when I am thirsty for a beer.

Beer Farts outa my arse... are infinitely more dangerous than HAARP is.

M.


edit on 6-11-2011 by Moshpet because: Life, the universe and everything. 42.

edit on 6-11-2011 by Moshpet because: Down Home Eloquence



posted on Nov, 6 2011 @ 08:31 PM
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I've been concerned also - I was
so afraid the larger quake was
not going to have aftershocks
yesterday - I couldn't sleep until
one came along.

But this is serious - even the
aftershocks are not tiny. I feel
another larger quake will be
at anytime. I hope I am wrong

Yea, where is Robin?
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posted on Nov, 6 2011 @ 08:37 PM
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Fracking is a conspiracy. It's just that it's in the open. This story starts when George W. Bush made the statement that America was addicted to oil. This meant they had to wean themselves off of foreign oil. Cheney held open secret meetings with the oil companies to ask them what they need to make the US energy independant. The wars were costing too much. Don't forget Nigeria. One savy Texas oil man came up with the idea to use what America already had but were neglecting because economics- it was too costly to get at. And there were those pesky clean air and clean water acts. Acts, Republicans enacted. The broke their own laws and put their plan into action. That rich Texan, I forget his name, had been out campaigning for gas after speculation had drive oil to the record levels near 180 bucks a barrell. Stating that the US needed to use own natural gas in all their transport trucks. He said they had new techniques to get the gas out of the shale and this would make America's energy needs a domestic product. So, they started the boom in 2005. It took a while to get the majority of the wells up and running. You know, they had to get leases. Grease the wheels in the statehouse with some lube and get the regulatory process into overdrive. Condition the sites with crushed gravel, dig a pond and find a way to get rid of all that waste water. Also, they had to get that up and running as well. Well, they're up to speed now. And all the dirt sweep under the carpet is too high not to trip over anymore.

First, the water starts catching on fire. Then, polluted waste water ponds and truck start spilling thier poisons into rivers. There are also issues with the trucking and other relatively minor problems. But then their dam started to leak heavily when Arkansas started to have swarm earthquakes. Then bang, a 4.7M. That was impossible to ignore. You couldn't get half the state to sign non-disclosure contracts. People were talking. The link could not be credibly denied. Notice what they're doing now in Oklahoma. They tried that in Arkansas but the roar only grew louder after the larger quakes. The people of Oklahoma have felt hundreds of quakes and almost gotten used to the fact. Now, I'm not so sure. Would you keep your mouth shut if it was in your backyard? Texas is also having the exact same issue.

The issue is about time. It's taking time to show the consequences. It took time for the problems to become evident. Now that they are in nearly a full production mode, the problems are coming one right after the other. Pennsylvania, Wyoming, Colorado, Arkansas, and now Oklahoma. The dominoes are falling. You can't say you're surprised by the Oklahoma quake. It was totally predictable. Maybe it took longer in Oklahoma to come to a head because the crust is different. Arkansas is softer. So, it broke first. This old uplift fault is denser rock. Simple as that.

The geologists have already been bought and paid for. Who do you think funds their studies? They won't say anything definative until it becomes criminal neglience to do otherwise. The tests have been done. There are studies that are making passed the roadblocks and they're showing the link. A link, that right now the geologists and the gas companies are not making. They'll deny even if you take them to court and they lose. They just appeal.

Why 5.6M?
What's the maximum for a fracking quake?

In Arkansas, the 10 mile long fault is thought to produce a 5.5-6.0M if it fully ruptured all at once. Of course that may need to be revise upward if the fault is longer. Oklahoma coincidentally fits right in that range. The fracking doesn't really determine the top end of the magnitude. The fault itself at full ruputure is the only real guide which is derived by it's length and stucture. The fracking and injection are the pressure and the trigger. Once mother nature takes over, it's pure physics and the fault will break free.

Which means, that if faults in the Eastern States are capable of producing 7M and above, then that's what you're gonna get. Sooner. Or. Later.

Yes, Mr. Puterman, I said I thought they crucified Spartacus. Unlike Jesus, his suffering would have lasted days.


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posted on Nov, 6 2011 @ 09:10 PM
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A picture of the supposed culprit.



tremblingearth.wordpress.com...



posted on Nov, 6 2011 @ 09:12 PM
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I don't post in this forum much, but want to say a big thank you to everyone for all the information you provide.

Keep up the great job.



posted on Nov, 6 2011 @ 09:55 PM
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We've been having a few small quakes near blackpool in england and the scientists and even the contractors seem to have owned up that fracking is the cause.

www.newscientist.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow">new scientist article



posted on Nov, 6 2011 @ 10:32 PM
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"..the area around Greenbrier, Ark., had experienced an unusually high frequency of small-to-mid
sized earthquakes in recent months -- that is, until several local fracking operations ceased operations. While fracking was still taking place in the area, it was common to experience hundreds of earthquakes in an average month. But now that all fracking wells have been closed, the earth surrounding them has calmed significantly.

During one three-week period when fracking was still occurring in the Greenbrier area, for instance, the Arkansas Geological Survey (AGS) recorded an astounding 919 earthquakes. After the first two fracking fluid disposal wells were closed, earthquake frequency dropped to 312. And following the closure of all four wells, the number or earthquakes that occurred dropped to a mere nine, none of which clocked in above a 2.5 magnitude."

I looked this up a few weeks ago and thought it was interesting. If you wish to see the whole report, it's at: www.naturalnews.com...
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posted on Nov, 6 2011 @ 11:03 PM
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Is there a prelude to something larger happening in the Bismarck Sea near Papua New Guinea ?

MAP 5.2 2011/11/07 04:44:38 -3.709 149.705 34.8 BISMARCK SEA
MAP 5.1 2011/11/07 04:01:40 -3.633 149.674 35.0 BISMARCK SEA
MAP 4.7 2011/11/07 02:28:09 -3.217 149.718 35.0 BISMARCK SEA
MAP 5.1 2011/11/07 01:43:39 -3.556 149.599 35.0 BISMARCK SEA
MAP 4.7 2011/11/07 00:43:31 -3.550 149.562 35.2 BISMARCK SEA



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