reply to post by muzzy
The Tower Of Babel!
I am working on a conversion program to see if these can be evened out but you probably need the seismo data to get it accurate.
Well darn it, they changed things
I had just added this post and went back to look at my database and it had changed
2011-05-13 22:47:53, 10.080, -84.300, 5.9, 52.0, Costa Rica EMSC
2011-05-13 22:47:55, 10.105, -84.261, 6.0, 70.0, Costa Rica USGS
2011-05-13 23:35:53, 37.383, 141.405, 6.2, 37.6, Nr. N. Coast Of Honshu. Japan USGS
2011-05-13 23:35:53, 37.410, 141.320, 6.2, 44.0, Nr. N. Coast Of Honshu Japan EMSC
As they say on ATS - "WTF"
When you look at the USGS data
13 MAY 2011 (133)
ot = 22:47:55.22 +/- 2.50 COSTA RICA
lat = 10.105 +/- 9.8
lon = -84.261 +/- 8.9 MAGNITUDE 6.0 (GS)
dep = 70.0 +/- 6.3
27 km (17 miles) NW of SAN JOSE, Costa Rica (pop 336,000)
64 km (40 miles) ENE of Puntarenas, Costa Rica (pop 36,000)
125 km (78 miles) SSE of San Carlos, Nicaragua (pop 13,000)
1785 km (1108 miles) SSW of Miami, Florida
nph = 344 of 361 se = 1.23 FE=078 A
error ellipse = (217.0, 10.0, 16.8;125.0, 8.0, 11.4;359.0, 76.0, 9.1)
mb = 5.6 (271) ML = 5.5 ( 4) mblg = 0.0 ( 0) md = 0.0 ( 0) MS = 0.0 ( 0)
They come up with this (BS) GS magnitude. Now EMSC are showing it as 5.9 Mb yet USGS are still showing it as 5.6 Mb as they originally had it. So now
on Mb the two are apart from each other.
I would hate to put these "scientists" in charge of anything serious! In many ways it is a good job they have no control over earthquakes.
It gets better!
What EMSC have done is change to Mw. This does not come through on my database as I don't examine the magnitude type after it has been entered (note
to self: fix this stupid)
For Costa Rica this is 5.9 Mw
they are showing
Magnitude Mw 5.9
Region COSTA RICA
Date time 2011-05-13 22:47:53.0 UTC
Location 10.08 N ; 84.30 W
Depth 52 km
Distances 29 km NW San josé (pop 335,007 ; local time 16:47:53.2 2011-05-13)
8 km NE Grecia (pop 12,675 ; local time 16:47:53.2 2011-05-13)
3 km SE San juan (pop 7,729 ; local time 16:47:53.2 2011-05-13)
Same goes for Honshu.
Note that there is not one single entry in the Honshu listing for EMSC with an Mw magnitude type. They are all mb.
Obviously they got the message:
USGS: "Listen chaps you are showing the wrong values in the lists."
EMSC:"Non, ze list eet ees correct Monsieur!"
USGS:"Now look here, we run the seismology in the world and you are making us look bad."
EMSC:"And zis ees a problem Monsieur?"
USGS:"Darn right it is guys. We live in a democracy. Change it or we may have to show you democracy - from 30,000ft of course."
EMSC:"Feet? What er zees feet you speak off?"
USGS:"Listen dude, change change it and stop trying to be so goddam European."
EMSC:"But Monseiur, we ARE Ooropean."
USGS:"Stop being clever of we will place an embargo on McDonalds."
EMSC:"OK,OK. We change it."
edit on 14/5/2011 by PuterMan because: Edited to add more disinformation.
Add to say: They brought the Mw version in with a new earthquake ID which now means I have it twice. So far they have not deleted the old one in the
KML listings. We shall see.
edit on 14/5/2011 by PuterMan because: (no reason given)