reply to post by Sinnthia
You are right.. I get very emotional when talking about these things.. I have not been a victim of this... But with kids.. I fear for other adults
that are sneaking around just waiting to prey on our kids. They are so innocent. This delusional fool is like the MAMBA folks.. he thinks that kids
enjoy/condone this.. He actually talks about preteens being "ready" for sex.. And children "flirting". he is broken..
This guy is the scum of the earth as far as I am concerned. I would love to take all that stuff back... But, I cant.. I really hope he dies a painful
death...
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reply posted on 20-12-2010 @ 03:26 PM by Evanescence
Originally posted by Resurrectio
reply to post by Sinnthia
You are right.. I get very emotional when talking about these things.. I have not been a victim of this... But with kids.. I fear for other adults that are sneaking around just waiting to prey on our kids.They are so innocent. This delusional fool is like the MAMBA folks.. he thinks that kids enjoy/condone this.. He actually talks about preteens being "ready" for sex.. And children "flirting". he is broken..
Yes, let's treat kids like kittens instead of human beings. Innocent, adorable, little bags of meat...awww!
Why don't we treat them like humans? Parents are needed to help reinforce their identities and to steer them on what is believed to be the right path, but ultimately they need to learn for themselves.
You, or others, might like to think your children will never do drugs, never have sex before marriage, or never do anything else that might offend moderate sensibilities, but the fact of the matter is that children are people with their own minds, their own wills, and their own lives! Children cannot be protected from everything and learning from experience will happen. If you protect them their entire life to such an extent that they cannot do anything they want, then they will hate you for it.
I believe government has a right to punish those molesting children or exploiting them, but this book only indirectly does so and leads to a slippery slope whereby other far less offensive materials could be in trouble. That is not the role of government in protecting children!
reply posted on 20-12-2010 @ 03:38 PM by Sinnthia
reply to post by Resurrectio
There is a reason judges with emotional attatchment are expected to recuse themselves. Emotions get in the way of successful societies when it comes to arbitrating justice. You have stated very clearly you want this man to be gang raped and then shot in the head for writing a book. You have not defined what standards by which you would judge his book that would or would not apply to books in the future or retroactively. You have just gotten all mad at one guy for writing some stuff. There was a man in Syracuse that locked up girls in a room in his basement for years at a time until the last one escaped after like 5 years as his private prisoner. He raped, abused, and held captive these teenage girls. This man was no pedophile nor author, but he is the type of person we should be worried about. While you get all excited hoping a guy who wrote something you do not like gets raped and murdered, real criminals are raping and torturing teenagers and children without reading a damn thing. This is kind of why I could care less about his book and since I live in the USA, I would rather he write and disgusting thing he wants and the cops worry about real crimes. Besides, he self published. Let him sit in rooms full of unsold books he spent money putting together. That seems more than fitting a punishment to me.
There is a reason judges with emotional attatchment are expected to recuse themselves. Emotions get in the way of successful societies when it comes to arbitrating justice. You have stated very clearly you want this man to be gang raped and then shot in the head for writing a book. You have not defined what standards by which you would judge his book that would or would not apply to books in the future or retroactively. You have just gotten all mad at one guy for writing some stuff. There was a man in Syracuse that locked up girls in a room in his basement for years at a time until the last one escaped after like 5 years as his private prisoner. He raped, abused, and held captive these teenage girls. This man was no pedophile nor author, but he is the type of person we should be worried about. While you get all excited hoping a guy who wrote something you do not like gets raped and murdered, real criminals are raping and torturing teenagers and children without reading a damn thing. This is kind of why I could care less about his book and since I live in the USA, I would rather he write and disgusting thing he wants and the cops worry about real crimes. Besides, he self published. Let him sit in rooms full of unsold books he spent money putting together. That seems more than fitting a punishment to me.
reply posted on 20-12-2010 @ 03:43 PM by Sinnthia
reply to post by SKinLaB
K, how about a list of the books, authors, and subjects you feel it should be against the law in the United States of America. Not actions now, just books, authors, and subjects. So far, we have this one book. What else do you feel should be banned? Should we form a consensus or is your answer THE answer? Let's start banning now!
K, how about a list of the books, authors, and subjects you feel it should be against the law in the United States of America. Not actions now, just books, authors, and subjects. So far, we have this one book. What else do you feel should be banned? Should we form a consensus or is your answer THE answer? Let's start banning now!
reply posted on 20-12-2010 @ 03:54 PM by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by SKinLaB
You are mistaking defending his RIGHTS with defending or agreeing with his position. You couldn't be more wrong. Maybe you can't separate them in your mind, but that doesn't mean no one can.
For those of you who are raging, "I don't care if what he's doing is against the law or not"! Think about what you're saying.
You are mistaking defending his RIGHTS with defending or agreeing with his position. You couldn't be more wrong. Maybe you can't separate them in your mind, but that doesn't mean no one can.
For those of you who are raging, "I don't care if what he's doing is against the law or not"! Think about what you're saying.
reply posted on 20-12-2010 @ 04:15 PM by sonjah1
reply to post by Sinnthia
Sure there is fiction.
But that title is not benign; it is SICK...
Amazon would not have pulled the book unless there was some evidence that this SICK-O was based in reality...
So obviously Eli Roth has tortured and killed numerous people in the woods and in Europe and is still a successful movie maker because as you just pointed out, no one could write about something unless they engaged in the activity, right? If fiction is too much of a stretch for you, pick up any book on what the Nazis did and see how many of the authors are actually Nazis.
Sure there is fiction.
But that title is not benign; it is SICK...
Amazon would not have pulled the book unless there was some evidence that this SICK-O was based in reality...
reply posted on 20-12-2010 @ 04:19 PM by this_is_who_we_are
reply to post by Resurrectio
And I've been looking for a reason to applaud law enforcement. Well, here it is. Lock the bastard up for a good long time.
And I've been looking for a reason to applaud law enforcement. Well, here it is. Lock the bastard up for a good long time.
reply posted on 20-12-2010 @ 04:21 PM by Miraj
reply to post by intrepid
People want it both ways.
They can't have it both ways.
We have either freedom of speech or government regulated speech..
Can someone take a look at past government regulations and tell me how they worked out?
On the matter of freedom, not so well.
People want it both ways.
They can't have it both ways.
We have either freedom of speech or government regulated speech..
Can someone take a look at past government regulations and tell me how they worked out?
On the matter of freedom, not so well.
reply posted on 20-12-2010 @ 04:22 PM by Mastermook
reply to post by HomerinNC
Funny you should say that, maybe the police department should be charged with purchasing pedophilia materials.
Maybe the guy is a pervert, maybe he isn't, but did he actually do anything illegal by writing a book?
Ist amendment Freedom of expression consists of the rights to freedom of speech, press, assembly and to petition the government for a redress of grievances, and the implied rights of association and belief.
It isn't so much about morality, because if anyone acts on touching or coercing children that is wrong and illegal, but is discussing it a crime? It will be interesting to see how this plays out in court.
Funny you should say that, maybe the police department should be charged with purchasing pedophilia materials.
Maybe the guy is a pervert, maybe he isn't, but did he actually do anything illegal by writing a book?
Ist amendment Freedom of expression consists of the rights to freedom of speech, press, assembly and to petition the government for a redress of grievances, and the implied rights of association and belief.
It isn't so much about morality, because if anyone acts on touching or coercing children that is wrong and illegal, but is discussing it a crime? It will be interesting to see how this plays out in court.
reply posted on 20-12-2010 @ 04:26 PM by Resurrectio
reply to post by Mastermook
That is why Florida did it.. They have a specific law prohibiting the distribution of obscene material. He is not in jail for writing it.. He was set up by the one state where this is illegal, from what I have read about this.
That is why Florida did it.. They have a specific law prohibiting the distribution of obscene material. He is not in jail for writing it.. He was set up by the one state where this is illegal, from what I have read about this.
reply posted on 20-12-2010 @ 04:28 PM by Resurrectio
reply to post by Sinnthia
Well lets see if the Florida Sheriff will bow to public pressure.. Lets pressure them into castrating this broken human.
Well lets see if the Florida Sheriff will bow to public pressure.. Lets pressure them into castrating this broken human.
reply posted on 20-12-2010 @ 04:32 PM by Sinnthia
Originally posted by Resurrectio
reply to post by Sinnthia
Well lets see if the Florida Sheriff will bow to public pressure.. Lets pressure them into castrating this broken human.
Sorry but I am going to be busy lobbying for mandatory labotomies for people advocating the castration, rape, and execution of anyone for simply writing a book and nothing more. I have a feeling our paths may cross though. See ya in the funny papers...unless you get family circle banned for showing Jeffrey's bare bottom.
reply posted on 20-12-2010 @ 04:35 PM by JoeMaine
reply to post by Resurrectio
I wonder where your kids are or what they're doing while you're on here rambling about their needing to be protected.
...Anyway, this is a slippery slope. Today they nail this guy for a thought crime. Tomorrow they nail people who put out information on street drugs and how to grow marijuana. The next day they go after the people publishing info on your rights or info the government doesn't want out there... oh wait they're already doing it. And since the majority of the population is retarded and drowned out by emotional head cases, it's all going to happen too.
I wonder where your kids are or what they're doing while you're on here rambling about their needing to be protected.
...Anyway, this is a slippery slope. Today they nail this guy for a thought crime. Tomorrow they nail people who put out information on street drugs and how to grow marijuana. The next day they go after the people publishing info on your rights or info the government doesn't want out there... oh wait they're already doing it. And since the majority of the population is retarded and drowned out by emotional head cases, it's all going to happen too.
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