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Pedophilia Guide Author Arrested

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posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by Phenomium
He just hasn't gotten caught yet. You only have to have half of a brain to put 2 and 2 together. If he writes a whole book supporting and defending pedophiles, he must know alot about it. I mean, come on. If he's not a pedophile then how is it that he feels he has enough experience to give all other pedophiles in the world advice on how to do it properly? Before one can be a teacher,...you must first be a student. Otherwise, he would know nothing to write about in his book. Quite frankly, he just has that same creepy vibe that they all seem to have.


As far as I remember he is a known pedofile. However he is not a known child molester. There is a difference there. How it all happened as far as I remember he was himself victim and sometimes that leads to growing into a pedofile.
If I remember wrong feel free to correct me.




posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 02:48 AM
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That is pretty much correct

Here's how it went down:

Boy gets involved in a non-sexual relationship with a man in his 30s at a less than adolescent age.

Boy and pedophile's relationship becomes inappropriate.

Boy grows up in mental anguish.

Boy turns into man.

Man finds that he has feelings for those much younger than him; this is not uncommon among child molestation cases.

Man tries to warn other children of the consequences of their actions if they may find themselves in similar situations to what he did when he was a child.

Self-righteous totalitarians continue destroying everything they never understood in the first place, making their argument hypocritical in the sense of the "save the children" stance that they tend to stand behind verbally as if they support it in reality.

People are too quick to judge based on labels... and it doesn't get much more shallow than assuming the stance of a book based on the title. Pretty sure we have a cliche saying for this behavior.
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posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 04:17 AM
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Originally posted by Phenomium
* * * Before one can be a teacher,...you must first be a student. * * *


There's an old saying about that: Those who can't do it, teach it.



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 04:31 AM
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Ok now that you've all doomed this guy to live his life in tormentation, have you considered the title of the book might be a bit misleading? I thought the purpose was to help potential pedophiles to love adults. Not to give advice what sort of candy you should buy to lure kids.
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posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 05:11 AM
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Originally posted by Resurrectio
 

I have read most of the book. I have watched the interview with this creep!


Congratulations on having read most of the book. At least you took the trouble to inform yourself. I'm assuming that you would approve of a wide circulation of this book so that others might be as well informed as yourself.

I'm not trying to score cheap debating points here but surely if the book were on the New York Times bestseller list, that would be the optimum situation from your point of view, since a very large number of people would become aware of the content of the book and would be able to take informed decisions as to the problems posed by the content of the book.


This book details how to "groom" children.. It also details specific ways to go about abusing the children to make it more pleasurable for the child.


If there were a similar book written for rapists or for sexual sadists, it might well go under the title "The Art of Seduction" or "Rough Role Playing in the Bedroom" and it's appearance would be a complete non-issue except in one very important respect. There might be more people seduced and less people raped. There might be more people tussled with, tied up and walloped with a ping pong paddle and fewer battered spouses and fewer murder victims.


.. To defend this book and this Author is disgusting in my view.. You nor your anger will change my opinion.. So move on.. Your opinion is not relevant to me.

If you want the book.. get a bit torrent Dl'r and Dl it.. period!


Everyone is entitled to their personal "disgust quotient", but do you know that you are actually helping people to acquire this book? Given the current climate of what I consider overreaction to breaches of accepted mainstream sexual behavior, I would be, if I were in your shoes, fearful of being put on some sort of "watch list" by the authorities.

In your posts you come across as very upset and angry about pedophiles and about "this creep" who wrote the book in question. This is a book that you have read and have told others how to acquire.

I'm not questioning your motives in this. What you have done is completely understandable in the context of a discussion board, but surely you must know that law enforcement officers who share your intolerant and angry opinion of pedophiles and minority sexual behavior, might well see your posts in a different light. That can have bizarre consequences in today's world of paranoia and unreasonable overreaction by authorities.

People have lost custody of their children for very slight faults and oversights.

This subject matter needs to be discussed rationally. It is important. It seems to be one important matter of public policy where it is totally acceptable to express extreme opinions in an emotional lather. Would you be more confident of your doctor's decisions if he delivered them in that state or would you seek another opinion?
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posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 07:21 AM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by Anttyk47
Pretty sure there's something call freedom of speech.
And i'm pretty sure that's all i have to say.
Although i don't agree.
He probably wrote this book knowing it was legal.
So shame on those who prosecute
And show the corruption
Because the law is clear
Yet we still go against it


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I think Freedom of the Press is more applicable than Freedom of Speech so........read on if you must


In United States v. Williams, 553 U.S. 285 (2008), by a vote of 7–2, the Supreme Court upheld the PROTECT Act of 2003. The Court ruled that prohibiting offers to provide and requests to obtain child pornography did not violate the First Amendment, even if a person charged under the Act did not possess child pornography.[53]

The book violates obscenity laws which are clearer than Constitutional laws so therefore, enjoy prison life lawls. There is however the issue that the Florica police requested the book, the request itself which is uhm uh ahh uh hmmmmm

Yet to be investigated, did Publishing the book violate anything; i say yes but it's gonna be the question of you say toh-may-toe i say toh-mah-toe lawls again!

It's important to note that there are laws within laws and that laws have restrictions and that enough 'loopholes' in laws to keep the whole legal system alive and curious. You don't hafta convince me of something, you hafta convince the judge(s) IF the judge(s) want to listen , cheers!

My opinion on this creepy guy



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by DuceizBack
Why would a guy even defend this?
Lol y'all some weirdos man hahaha




Please take this as the sincere inquiry it is intended to be.
Can you explain just what exactly is sick about defending freedom of speech in the United States of America?



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 08:35 AM
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Judge denies lower bail for Greaves Well as we are all sitting here defending freedom of speech...this guy is being defended by a public defender...someone needs to step in and help this guy out. Especially since everyone seems to think he's within his rights...Don't let the corrupt court system here in Polk County Win. They are all corrupt...from the Police, to the State Attorney, to the Judges.



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 11:12 AM
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Hmm, it seems even the pirate bay has deleted the book, and they claim to be all for freedom of information lol. Bunch of lying hypocrites :p



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by DuceizBack
Why would a guy even defend this?
Lol y'all some weirdos man hahaha




The only weirdos here are those who would do away with the 1st Amendment simple because they dislike the topic of a book.

You should be asking them what is wrong in their head.



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 11:49 AM
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posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by BigTimeCheater

Originally posted by DuceizBack
Why would a guy even defend this?
Lol y'all some weirdos man hahaha




The only weirdos here are those who would do away with the 1st Amendment simple because they dislike the topic of a book.


Topic of the book? They don't even know that! They think it's a guide to lure children into a hollow log and make shakespeare's metaphorical beast with two backs. Ask them what the color of the cover is, I dare you.


This thread should be closed due to rampant ignorance. And all of the totalitarians should be charged with treason for raping the rest of our rights to protect the feelings they are pretending to have about an issue that never existed.

Militant totalitarian ignorance is called tyranny, by the way, folks.

Allow me to squash you one more time...

...

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posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 02:15 PM
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Jeeesh.. Get angry much?? Why is your opinion allowed, but others are ridiculed by you for expressing theirs..

You could not be more wrong about this book.

This book describes the following.. After last night, I finished the book. It is EXACTLY what I and others thought it was!!

1) Describes children as young as 9 as able to make responsible sexual decisions!
2) Teachers pedophiles the correct way to have a "healthy" sexual relationship with children.
3) Describes ways to encourage children to lie to their guardians.
4) Teaches pedophile how to maintain a sexual relationship with a child that is sexually fulfilling yet hard to prosecute.


If you want to argue first amendment rights .. So be it.. But if you are going to sit there and straight out lie, to make your point, go lie elsewhere.

This man was asked if he touches and kisses children. He said "yes" .. But no different than your Aunt or Uncle does.. Then, when asked about his "fondling" comment, he laughed and said he was joking.

Just because we do not agree on this being a 1st amendment issue, does not mean we can not have a productive discussion about it. I would like to think you are just having a bad couple of days.. How about you stop personally attacking members that do not agree with you.

Can we discuss this like adults or not?



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 03:49 PM
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What is the foot of the inside cover?

Only five copies of this book have ever been sold.

There is a 1 in 1.4 Billion chance that you are telling the truth.



Take solace behind the ALERT button again, please. Your arguments certainly aren't serving you justice.

Prove that you have a copy, scan pages that support your claims, or stop claiming it.
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posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 03:53 PM
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wow.. So you will just blatently lie.. Over 300 copies have been sold.. Pirate bay had it until the last couple of days... So NO.. I didnt get a cover on my Torrent.. wow.. You have ZERO substance!



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 03:55 PM
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Have you read the book? how can you make a judgmental statement if you don't even know. No one knows what the content is unless they've read it. Do you think we should ban "fictional" movies like SAW or other horor movies that go into detail about how to torture somebody, murder them, and dispose of the body?



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by Resurrectio
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wow.. So you will just blatently lie.. Over 300 copies have been sold.. Pirate bay had it until the last couple of days... So NO.. I didnt get a cover on my Torrent.. wow.. You have ZERO substance!


Wow, no kidding. You're right on that one, my bad, a shamefully apologetic star for your troubles. I assume ATS social currency is important to you since you're so inclined to lower mine as if I care
So I guess that makes it... a 1 in 64 million chance?

I was going by the Amazon sales apparently, apologies; suffice to say that I still find it peculiar that you haven't been scanning pages to prove that what you are saying is actually in this book at all...

After all, fabricating nonsense is ATS tradition for many thread-starters as of late.

And it would be nice to find a copy of my own to read and argue with as well... any suggestions on a site that doesn't allow itself to be bullied by totalitarians?
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posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 03:59 PM
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posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 04:43 PM
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If you would like, I will send it to you when i get home. I would rather not post the actual book. But, it would be nice for someone from your side of the fence to see what this guy has written..

U2U me your email.. I will send in 2 or 3 pieces.



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