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Pedophilia Guide Author Arrested

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posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 10:59 AM
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Yeah have you seen "Toddlers in Tiaras". Holy crap...talk about living through your kid. Not to mension adding fuel to the pedophilia fire...sheesh
edit on 22-12-2010 by XLR8R because: (no reason given)




posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by RelentlessLurker
heres a curve-ball for ya.

little girls are starting puberty at ages as low as 3-7 now. they believe this is due to hormone disruptors that end up in our food and water.

what if these same chemicals are responsible for the behavior in people like this guy. coupled with the over-sexualization of children in the media?







That is kind of what I was thinking about when I asked. I guess I just did not like to see the frenzy of people calling for the death of what can be equated to a 16 year old and a 13 year old having consentual sex. Many may not find that right or appropriate but once it fell into the same space as torturing and raping the people that would include the 16 year old in the scenario, I become a little concerned the train has come waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off the tracks. I guess it was a bigger deal than I thought it would be and I am so sorry I even brought it up now.



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 11:03 AM
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That was completely by accident... And there is no way it was 23.. I had a window open and it was adding you, but not opening a new window.. I didn't realize the window was open until I had hit it a few times.

So lets not get over dramatic here.

I would appreciate it if you would ignore me. I would appreciate not even having to see your posts.. They add nothing and take away everything.

You accused me of not answering questions, that you never asked me.

Remember you nit picked the difference between 12 and 13 and generally 13.. really?

I shouldn't have written that last line.. It will compel you to respond.. I really wish you wouldn't.



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by Resurrectio
reply to post by Sinnthia
 


That was completely by accident... And there is no way it was 23.. I had a window open and it was adding you, but not opening a new window.. I didn't realize the window was open until I had hit it a few times.


Yes, it was 23. From 0 to 23 new private messages in about 1 second and all of them the same. I did not miscount, it said 23 at the top. Even and idiot like me can read 23. I am sure it was by accident since you only clicked it "a few times"
but the point was, did you notice the word "respected" any of those times?


So lets not get over dramatic here.

I would appreciate it if you would ignore me. I would appreciate not even having to see your posts.. They add nothing and take away everything.

You accused me of not answering questions, that you never asked me.


Did I? Seems to me that I asked one question of you and you answered it and I thanked you, twice now for doing so. If all you have is personal attacks, accusations, and addresses then you have more issues than this thread can deal with. I was not making this about YOU so stop making it about ME.


Remember you nit picked the difference between 12 and 13 and generally 13.. really?


No, not even close. I nitpicked the difference between a general age range and the actual definition of "prepubescent" as on poster just pointed out can be as young as 3. Generally under 12 or 13 is not even remotely true anymore because most girls hit puberty around 10/11 these days anyway so still, an age range as opposed to the scientific meaning of the word is just WAY OFF.

I did not nitpick a year or two, it was your specific age range versus what the word means which has nothing to do with age. NOTHING.



I shouldn't have written that last line.. It will compel you to respond.. I really wish you wouldn't.



What, no personal attack this time? Can we move forward now?



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by XLR8R
I have a few questions for the people who are defending the creep. And answer with the utmost honesty please.

1-Would you let that man near you children?
2-Would you rally at the court house and protest for him?
3-Would you want him as a friend?

There are no right or wrong answers here. Your own personal opignion is just what it is. Your opignions.
edit on 22-12-2010 by XLR8R because: Typo
I believe I have already answered this. I may not agree with the stuff he is writing, but I defend the first amendment. If he or someone like him even looked at either of my kids the wrong way, I would feed his remains to the crabs in the bay. However, as far as I know, he has not DONE ANYTHING except write a book that is in extremely poor taste. I object to the subject matter in it's entirety. I ask again though....do you want MY morals to decide what you are allowed to read?



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by XLR8R
I have a few questions for the people who are defending the creep. And answer with the utmost honesty please.

1-Would you let that man near you children?


Yes.


2-Would you rally at the court house and protest for him?


No.


3-Would you want him as a friend?


Hard to say but seems we have little in common thus far.


There are no right or wrong answers here. Your own personal opignion is just what it is. Your opignions.
edit on 22-12-2010 by XLR8R because: Typo


I hope that helps.



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 11:50 AM
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You would let this man around your children?





In another video he says that pedophiles aren't bad.. They love children.. They are looking for a mutually respectful relationship.

Sinnthia, I am making an assumption.. But I think it is safe to assume that you do not have children. Am I correct? If not I apologize..

This is only my opinion!! Please note this is my opinion!!!!
If anyone knowingly lets this man around their children, they are at LEAST guilty of child endangerment.



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 11:51 AM
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Those questions seem pretty irrelevant to me really. What does any of that have to do with his right to write a book, or being arrested for a statute that does not even apply to him? I haven't heard anyone say they like the guy, or his ideas. Just that he has a right to write them down and sell them, without some yahoo from some other state trying to make a name for himself off the current witch hunt. The lawmakers in FL are idiots, they make an obscenity law, and define obscene as "I will know it when I see it." That means anything that would offend a judge in FL, can be charged with obscenity.
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posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 11:53 AM
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How is this topic still going? Man, 27 pages on something this mundane means fanaticism is involved.



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by Xiamara
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If the book is potentially harming (Pedophilia, murder, rape and so on) or the author is detailing their own accounts of a violent crime(s) they committed they should be responsible for the content. Both the seller, author and publisher are all responsible. Freedom of speech is as free as the consequences are, your free to say what ever you want no ones stopping you you have to deal with the consequences of your actions. For every action there is an equal reaction.



Let me just get this out there first I Do NOT support this book. It is disgusting, perverse and wrong in many ways but This guy does have the right to write the book weather its child molesting or necrophilia or whatever he wants to write about he has the right to write whatever he wants. BOOKS are not potentially Harming its the people reading them that cause the harm don't blame the book blame the person. Just like the saying Guns don't kill, People do. same idea.

If he was arrested just for writing the book then that's wrong. But if in the book he accounted his past experiences then yes he should be arrested and removed from this world since wouldn't that be an admitting of guilt?

and yes I said removed from this world. I feel kid touchers should all die a horrible and painful death.



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by Resurrectio
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You would let this man around your children?


Who do you let "around" or "near" your children? No one is going to molest my children in my presence. Would I let this man take my kids on a camping trip without me? NO. Big difference. When I go out in public, my children are "near" and "around" complete strangers all the time. Maybe you do not take your kids shopping with you?


In another video he says that pedophiles aren't bad.. They love children.. They are looking for a mutually respectful relationship.


Most child molestations occur between a child and someone they know like a cose family friend or relative. This man is and would be neither, ever let your kids go to a friend's house or spend time with an uncle? I have and it always worries me. This man being "around" my children in my presence scares me less.


Sinnthia, I am making an assumption.. But I think it is safe to assume that you do not have children. Am I correct? If not I apologize..


No, you are not correct. From that I can only assume that you either do not have children or have no faith in your own ability to guide and protect them no matter who is standing within ten feet of them at your discretion.


This is only my opinion!! Please note this is my opinion!!!!
If anyone knowingly lets this man around their children, they are at LEAST guilty of child endangerment.


Your opinion is scary. There are child molesters out there in the real world and there are times I cannot be with my children and watch every single interaction they have. If I have to choose between that reality and the simple of taske of allowing this man to be in proximity of me and my children, I would choose the latter. The latter I can control. When I drop my kids off at soccer practice or little league, I lose some of that control.

I think what you did was ask vague questions hoping to attack anyone that answered them simply as I did.

You asked if I would allow him near my kids. I allow lots of dangerous things "near" my kids. What I do not do is leave them alone with these things.



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 12:26 PM
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First of all.. I am not the one that posed the questions..

My response to you saying "yes" was simply a rhetorical question, followed by videos of this scum bag.

I did not ask any questions looking to attack anyone... Since I am not the one that asked the questions..

Sooooo.. I was attempting to drop the little back and forth, and simply asked 1 question. A rhetorical one, in disbelief that someone, knowing this mans thoughts on pedophilia, would allow him around their children.

BTW... His question was "would you let this man around your children"

Not "Would you let this man around your children in your presence"

Also not " Would you let this man around your children while in police custody and shackled and bound"


You are very wrong about your assumptions on my children. I am a single father of 3.. My 12 year old son, I am not so worried about. He is old enough to understand the dangers. We have talked to exhaustion about predators and what he should do in countless situations.

It is my babies that worry me... I am very close with my kids. I am extremely confident that I would notice even the smallest changes in their behavior due to any outside stress or pressure.

Relatives are not my concern either. I understand the statistics, and regular occurrence of relatives/friends molestation. Where my babies go.... My 12 year old goes. Nobody would get away with any tomfoolery in his presence.

I am more concerned with the predator that grabs a child and runs.. In the mall or from the bus stop.. Or sneaks in the window at night (Elizabeth Smart) It is the situations that I can not control that scare the sheet out of me.

I do not question my parenting one little bit. I am a phenomenal father rivaled by few. If you knew anything more than what you have read here, you would most certainly have a different opinion of me.
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posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 12:31 PM
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I have a question for you guys....If a 23 year old man or woman sleeps with a 16 year old...boy or girl...does that make that person a pedophile?



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 12:33 PM
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No... Although it is illegal in most states.. But I wouldn't call them a pedophile.. I am more concerned with labeling the 36 year old man/woman raping a child a pedophile.



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posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 12:37 PM
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I agree....Florida's legal consent age is 16...as long as the person their sleeping with isnt over the age of 24. Some people seem to think that if you sleep with anyone under the age of 18 then they should be considered a pedophile...at least thats what I gather of the Sheriff FB page.



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by Resurrectio
reply to post by Sinnthia
 


First of all.. I am not the one that posed the questions..


You are right. You jumping on my responses with all that assuming threw me off. My appologies.


My response to you saying "yes" was simply a rhetorical question, followed by videos of this scum bag.


My response to you was a response to your rhetorical question as well as your posted videos. You seemed to assume I would let this man take my kids on a private get away while I wonder how many child molesters walked past your children today.


I did not ask any questions looking to attack anyone... Since I am not the one that asked the questions..


Right, we just went over that. Need another apology for that?


Sooooo.. I was attempting to drop the little back and forth, and simply asked 1 question. A rhetorical one, in disbelief that someone, knowing this mans thoughts on pedophilia, would allow him around their children.


Sooooo.. I was attempting to go back on your forth and explain to you that "around" and "near" are pretty vague ideas.


You are very wrong about your assumptions on my children. I am a single father of 3.. My 12 year old son, I am not so worried about. He is old enough to understand the dangers. We have talked to exhaustion about predators and what he should do in countless situations.


What assumptions am I wrong about exactly? Are you telling me that you would allow this man near or around your 12 year old son? This man is attracted to boys isn't he?


It is my babies that worry me... I am very close with my kids. I am extremely confident that I would notice even the smallest changes in their behavior due to any outside stress or pressure.


Then you should not be so worried about a man standing in the same room as you and your child if you are such a great parent.


Relatives are not my concern either. I understand the statistics, and regular occurrence of relatives/friends molestation. Where my babies go.... My 12 year old goes. Nobody would get away with any tomfoolery in his presence.


Right, because all the children that do get molested on a daily basis come from parents that assume it is going to happen and allow it anyway. If only they were as perfect as you.




I am more concerned with the predator that grabs a child and runs.. In the mall or from the bus stop.. Or sneaks in the window at night (Elizabeth Smart) It is the situations that I can not control that scare the sheet out of me.


That would worry me as well but I do not recall that being part of the questions I answered.


I do not question my parenting one little bit. I am a phenomenal father rivaled by few. If you knew anything more than what you have read here, you would most certainly have a different opinion of me.


Your oldest child is 12 and you call yourself a perfect father. Call me when they are all adults and let me know how you did. It has been my experience that any parent that believes they are the perfect parent, is delusional at best.



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 12:45 PM
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Any other personal attacks brood?

So... using your logic.. I should not condemn a pedophile, simply because he can't change?

I don't mean to showcase my ignorance here... But how exactly should I respond to a grown up victimizing a child?

This man has stated that he feels a 9 year old can make a sexual decision for themselves.

His book details how to abuse a child "while making it pleasurable for the child"

Is there something about your sexual preferences that you would like to share? I didn't know that I was inciting so much anger.

I do not feel bad or guilty, that I wish this man a painful death. Nor should I. I am not angery that he wrote a book. I am happy that he put a great big spot light on himself.

I am disgusted that he is so arrogant about his thoughts on abusing children. I am equally disgusted that someone would verbally tar and feather me over wishing ill will on a child abuser.. lets get that straight.. I dont like the book.. I wish it was never written.. But, through what ever loop hole they need to use, I hope he is convicted. I hope he is introduced to a more powerful man in prison that will introduce him to everything he promotes doing to children.

I don't want this to end in him being arrested only for writing a book.



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 12:45 PM
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Looks like the child molesters are at it again! Pedos I hate them. pedos are scum of the earth no universe!



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 12:47 PM
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No, you are not correct. From that I can only assume that you either do not have children or have no faith in your own ability to guide and protect them no matter who is standing within ten feet of them at your discretion.


The assumption I said you were wrong about..



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