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Pedophilia Guide Author Arrested

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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by Phenomium

Look if this guy was arrested and is known as a pedophile ...he must have done something. This guy SAYS this book is not to help pedophiles...fine, whatever, if this is truly the case though then why is the book named "The Pedophile's GUIDE to Love and Pleasure".


Are you trying to be stupid or is it just second nature?

A guide for pedophiles.... to make sure that they don't let their emotions get the best of them and sleep with children. A guide for pedophiles... to make sure they don't turn into child molesters...

What we really need is for a guide for heterosexuals... to learn how to act like adults and mind their own business when they don't know what the hell they are talking about... because that... is one of the biggest problems we have as a country. Militant ignorance.




posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:03 PM
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No, I don't think I will, as you are as unimportant to me, as I am to you.
I do enjoy a good debate on the internet, but I'm not willing to expend too much effort.
YOU may have come to that conclusion re:entrapment, but really, your opinion is not the cause of debate here. If it was, I wouldn't be having this conversation. Your opinion, it may surprise you to hear, is not fact.

The legality of the entrapment will have been discussed, and will be discussed again, by people who know exactly what they are talking about. I will be watching them to see how it pans out. What I won't be doing is trawling back through the thread for some person's posts who means nothing to me. And I wouldn't expect you to do so for me, either.

Either discuss something with me here and now, and acknowledge it for the opinion that it is, instead of forcing it on people as fact, or drop it.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by XLR8R
reply to post by Sinnthia
 


What!!?!?!? Are you friggin' kidding me!!! Why are you defending this? Are you a pedophile too? If you are, you deserve to be castrated physicly. Put in jail, in the same cell as a 300 pound rapist. How dare you deffend that this is just ridiculous.


How dare I defend free speech in the United States of America while you sit there and tell a woman on the internet IN WRITING how much you hope she gets raped?

Are YOU friggin kidding me? What kind of sick twisted freak runs around the internet telling girls he knows nothing about they should be locked up and raped? I guess it is a good thing you HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY THAT huh?



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:09 PM
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It doesn't matter if the choice to send the book is "100% this authors choice".

He was "innocent" until they encouraged him to break a law that he never broke before. That is textbook entrapment.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:09 PM
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reply to post by Byteman
 


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the law is that - advertising a book [ or any item ] for sale consititutes " an invitation to make an offer "

ie - avertising " the peadophile guide book " for sale $15 is the invitation - now the law also states that the vendor has the right to refuse any offer - a potential buyer CANNOT sue if the vendor refuses to sell the item

so accepting an offer that HE invited , cannot be entrapment

its that simple
edit on 21-12-2010 by elevatedone because: Removed unecessary commentary.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:12 PM
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reply to post by CodyOutlaw
 


Yeah, cause AG's don't have any political agendas or reasons to "favorably" interpret laws in the cops favor.

Plus, all AG's are automatically 100% correct about everything.

Oh, wait a minute....



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:18 PM
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You do a nice line in hyperbole, but I think you'll find I made no such sweeping generalization. You, however, seem hell-bent on convicting the sheriff, the officer, and the AG, without having a full understanding of what illegal entrapment actually is, and whether or not it applies in this case.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:19 PM
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can someone please explain how this book is worse than the script for any horror movie ? - it's a book full of words that don't mean any more than you try to make them.

anyone who thinks he deserves extra judicial punishment for writing a book that was sold on amazon shouldn't have children in the first place and should be legally banned from calling themselves an American or even visiting.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by XLR8R
reply to post by Kharron
 


This type of publication should be in the same category as child pornography. Is child pornography illegal...YES it is. Of everything in the world, we should protect our children. They are our future. And for those who have the freedom of speech thing incrusted in their brains so much that you believe that everything has the right to be published, you need to get a reality check. Wait 'till you have kids.


If something like this is categorized as child pornography then where do we stop? A lot of you seem to be forgetting that you will not be the ones deciding what is ok to print and what is not. You are asking the government to make that decision for you. How do you suggest we categorize this writing as child pornography? Should any writing depicting the sexual abuse of a child be categorized as child pornography and banned as well? Where do we stop? I am starting to think many people in this thread screaming about how some things should not be written have spent little time in a book store.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by Phenomium
 


Could you provide some excerpts from the book in question to back your claims? Thanks in advance!
I downloaded the sample before Amazon pulled it. I cannot copy paste from my pc kindle reader, but here is a quote from the book I posted in the original thread on this topic:

QUOTE FROM BOOK"while it is not my intention to excuse this practice I would rather see pedosexuals conquer the world than her of even one mor child bing killed because another pedosexual pedophile is driven into a state of pedocidal psychosis or a paranoid panic attack, due to the constant hate mongering which can be heard from every corner of the earth, demonizing every juvephile regardless of the quality or character of their sexual relations with minors."UNQUOTE

From this thread, a link to all my posts, which contain several quotes from the author himself, one in which he claims he "could have" molested a child.

www.abovetopsecret.com...&mem=hotbakedtater



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:21 PM
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Sounds like you're getting mad because I called you out on your assumption.


Originally posted by CodyOutlaw
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You seem quite sure that it was so very cut and dry.
I wish I could garner so much from a paragraph-long article.


The reality is that you thought you were being clever by accusing me of drawing conclusions from one article. Now you're mad because I called you on it, and gave you your own medicine in kind.

Next time maybe you won't make baseless assumptions, and then you wouldn't have to get mad when people call you out on your baseless, incorrect, flawed, illogical assumptions and show you how wrong you are.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:22 PM
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reply to post by Byteman
 


As baseless as calling entrapment.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by XLR8R
Holly Hell,
OK all of you who blindly deffend the freedom of speech thing scare me more the that scum bag. I'm out of here!!!

edit on 21-12-2010 by XLR8R because: (no reason given)


All of the people blindly talking about what is actually in a book they never so much as looked at scare me.
All of YOU people blindly advocating that I be locked up and raped just for expressing my opinion of free speech REALLY scare me.

How do you all not see how twisted this all is? So many on this thread call the guy that wrote this book sick and wrong, then tell strangers that they should be raped. Amazing! Aside from the fact that I am female, how do you know I am not 13 years old? Would that change your hopes and wishes that I be raped?



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:28 PM
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oh yes how we blindly defend that which is legal and we swore our hearts to defend against that which is not, damn us all - lol

It's funny how people talk about pedophiles like they were never a 7 year old kid who found a playboy and wanted to touch vanna whites boobies for real.
edit on 21-12-2010 by circuitsports because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:30 PM
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Glad to see this monster is off the streets for now. The only problem I forse here is this book still does fall under the first amendment rights of free speech. I can already see the defence playing that game here. I think we should find out who was buying his book and every case brought to the courts because of this book he gets more tacked onto his sentance. Personaly I think he just needs to be put to death, we go far to easy on these evil people.

Just because you admited you did it doesent make you any less guilty, and you should be put the death in the same way as your victims. Im sure alot of you out there think thats evil of me to think like that but if we started showing these people that if you torture and kill innocence you will be tortured and killed in the same way period. No plea bargains no getting off the hook, do not pass go, do not collect $200, go directly 6 feet under THE END.

Im sure alot of you feel the same way out there... The system better get fixed to be able to handle these people or the friends and famlies of the victims will start dealing with it. We lock a guy up for life for selling pot a weed that grows on the side of the road yet we let these people back into society. Something is a miss here... I assure you if this happned to anyone I know the cops wouldnt have ever been called, the guy would just vanish off the face of the earth.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:32 PM
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I f#$%&^& dare you double dare you to go into east LA where real killers freely roam the streets and talk about justice. You don't know the first thing about justice and your just a loud mouth online trying to fit in with the mob.

The fact is you wouldnt do anything your just a weakling that fears the unknown.

edit on 21-12-2010 by circuitsports because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:32 PM
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reply to post by hotbakedtater
 


In other words, it's a self-help book aimed at helping people with pedophilic tendencies avoid actually molesting children?

And from your linked thread, you say this:


I am definitely judging this book by its cover. Are you willing to order and read such a book, with your credit card? I am not. The subject matter disgusts me. Have you read it?


So, was it worth the moolah?



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by Xiamara
reply to post by BigTimeCheater
 


Any pedophile who's bought his book.. It may not be now but down the line yeah its a possibility who else is going to buy a how to guide on pedophilia?


So you obviously feel the same way about any book that may entice, encourage, or aid any pedophile, correct? Why is everyone ignoring the vast plethora of books out there that graphically depict the rape, molestation, and even consentual sex acts involving adults with children? This is not the first and will probably not be the last. In fact, it seems this book sold very very few copies. Bill Oreilly's book about getting sex off 15 year old girls for crack sold a ton of copies. Are we lighting these torches or what?



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:37 PM
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You seem to be quoting a cherry-picked law from who-knows-where. Too bad it means jack squat.

You have no proof that the offer made direct invitations for people to purchase the book illegally. I would go so far as to say that Amazon probably has a standard disclaimer saying not to order things that are illegal where you live.

The fact that you think the book is $15, tells me you haven't really looked into the matter at all.

BTW, why are you scared to show your sources?
Or are you just making stuff up, putting it in quotes, and acting like it's official from somewhere?

It's funny that your attempt at hip irony with your screenname has turned prophetic. You are ignorant of the difference in when a private citizen does something, and when the government does it.

If a private citizen had purchased the book, and then reported it. You might have a point...but you don't.

You have nothing....LMAO.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by Xiamara
reply to post by FREEwoman
 


I just wanted to post sometimes its not all the parents fault. For example a true story, A single mother with 2 kids and a dead beat ex husband needs to work so she hires a baby sitter the sitter ends up molesting one of the kids, he had recommendations a police check. But freedoms and such kept him safe, turns out he had a juvenile record, that was erased when he turned 18.

So whose fault is that (don't say the mothers).

Of how about the local priest, or teacher, or doctor, and the list goes on. Pedophile aren't all sleazy guys in white vans.


Clearly it is nobody's fault but the molestor, right? That is what you are saying? OK, given that...

Wouldn't it be nice if one of these creeps wrote a book outlining their motives, methods, and MO so that the rest of us could gain further insight into what to be cautious of, look out for, and be more pro-active in protecting our children? Man, a book like that would be quite useful. Anyone know where to find one?



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