Pedophilia Guide Author Arrested

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posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 02:02 PM
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Pedophilia Guide Author Arrested


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Phillip Greaves, who infamously sold The Pedophile's Guide To Love and Pleasure through Amazon's e-book store, has been arrested on obscenity charges. He probably shouldn't have sent an autographed copy of his creepy "child lover's" guide to a Florida sheriff.
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posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 02:02 PM
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When this story came out, there was talk here on ATS about the legality of this book. Being a single father of 3.. It really hits home with me. I would die for my kids... So I most certainly would kill for them. This guy will finally get his punishment.

Not only is he a sick and twisted individual, he is also guilty of describing "how to" to other pedo's!

He sent it to a Sheriff.. Karma!!!

Now the prison system will be his death bed. I hope he is raped by an entire area codes worth of predators.



Greaves was arrested at home in Pueblo, Colorado by deputies from Polk County in Florida, to whom Greaves had sold and mailed his book. The third degree felony charges are reportedly punishable by up to 30 years in prison, which, revolting as this book is, would be a ridiculous sentence to impose for shipping some printed made-up words to a backwater sheriff who wasn't inspired to actually molest anyone (hopefully).


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posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 02:03 PM
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Here is what pure evil looks like!




edit on 12/20/2010 by Resurrectio because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 02:09 PM
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tristar sits back and enjoys this thread in total, along with the landslide of future events.

No Second Comment, resources well spent.



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 02:12 PM
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Pretty sure there's something call freedom of speech.
And i'm pretty sure that's all i have to say.
Although i don't agree.
He probably wrote this book knowing it was legal.
So shame on those who prosecute
And show the corruption
Because the law is clear
Yet we still go against it



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by Anttyk47
Pretty sure there's something call freedom of speech.


I was waiting for this and it didn't take long. OK, why is this alright but if he published, "How to Kill an American President" he'd be getting call from the FBI or DHS?


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posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 02:14 PM
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I think pedophilia and the potential harm of children trumps freedom of speech... There's a line that has to be drawn. IMO



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 02:15 PM
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Greaves was arrested at home in Pueblo, Colorado by deputies from Polk County in Florida, to whom Greaves had sold and mailed his book.


He SOLD the book to them, THEY bought it, whats the charges?
EDIT: The article is incorrect, third degree felony charges are punishable up to 5 years in florida prisons
edit on 12/20/2010 by HomerinNC because: (no reason given)


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posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 02:15 PM
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Was he arrested simply for writing the book or sending it out through the mail? I just want to be clear, I am not in favor of anything about this book. I do not like that it was written or even for sale. I just have a concern about the legality of it. I just thought that in America, we had the right to write any disgusting thing we wanted to, just as Amazon and Barnes and Noble have the right NOT to put it up for sale. Unless this man did something besides write the book, he should have simply been shut down, shunned, ignored, left to wallow in his own self publishing cost and obscurity. I just worry about what other books we may find are worthy of arresting the author just for writing. I expect some flames for this but again, I am NOT defending him or his writing of the book. I just worry about people being ARRESTED for writing.



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 02:17 PM
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Evil is a singular occurance . The great majority of societal ills which once were thought to be the work of evil , are now known as psychological breakdowns of varying degrees. Collapses of the self, leading to all the dirt and accumulated devilment in a person exposed to the world. It is only very very rarely that a person can exhibit true evil, without invitation of terrifying and unbalancing circumstance, of horrific mentaly devastating upbringing, or through birth defects of the mind.
Only when a persons defect, thier villainy has no root in thier psychology can they truely be called evil, and as much as I would love to stove in this fellows chest with a hammer, we cannot say he is evil until we have examined his psychopathology to confirm if he is indeed evil, or wether there is some trauma that could have perverted his mind outside of his control and will to correct. Illness and evil must not be confused. If this man is ill, of course he should still serve time, because the saftey of the many outwieghs in my opinion his right to freedom in this case. But let us name a man evil only if we can prove it is so, for if we merely throw this word around in absence of greater understanding, it will not serve the future thinkers of the world as readily as a study and examination of this mans mind, and his sickness.



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 02:18 PM
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posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by Resurrectio
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I dont even care if it is legal or not.... I want the word to get around the county jail that they have a "special" visitor... Then have his exit turned into an entrance.. I wonder if that can kill you?? I sure as hell hope so!


The word is around way way before he was even arrested and made public..this is common when one decides to exploit at this level.


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posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by Xiamara
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I think pedophilia and the potential harm of children trumps freedom of speech... There's a line that has to be drawn. IMO


Ahhh and who gets to decide where that line is?

Do you wanna give that power to the government or should we have a referendum?

Bottom line is, if vendors don't want to sell certain books, or publishers publish them, that's where it stops. Who's to say it wasn't humor? What about a book about "How to sautee Black/White/Yellow/Silver People" (pick your color). That's intended harm right?

Don't get me wrong, the topic of the book despicable, it should never have been published and Amazon as a store should never have put it on their shelves, BUT the guy is allowed to write whatever he wants.

Once you start saying 'well, that's where I draw the line, I'll let the government handle this one' you give your constitutional rights away. Never, and I mean NEVER, is it OK for the government to decide what is free speech and what is not.

Kharron



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 02:21 PM
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Previous poster is right... I too, favor complete freedom of speech...But, if there is a line THIS MUST be considered "over the line".

Unless this is used to draw out pedophiles, this should not be covered by freedom of speech laws.



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 02:23 PM
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Im not sure that having your anus wedged open in a violent manner would be unfailingly lethal. Of course if a serious rupture of the skin inside the anus were to occur then he could pheasibly bleed out from there. Also theres the risk of prolapse, which wouldnt take long to die of one way or another.Toxic shock from having your insides exposed to the germ ridden environment would be, unpleasant and probably lethal, and of course the shock of the prolapse itself would probably cause some possibility of heart attack .
But people survive worse than that in fetish clubs around the world so I dont think it would be a reliable manner of removing that particular gentleman from existance.


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posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by Xiamara

I think pedophilia and the potential harm of children trumps freedom of speech... There's a line that has to be drawn. IMO


Dangerous comment is dangerous.

That line can be drawn very randomly by governments in ways that get you the Australian porn filter, manga/anime ban laws, etc. that have recently been proposed/passed. Taking rights away from the people in the name of saving the children is one of the oldest and most heinous ways to preclude societal freedoms.



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 02:24 PM
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then where do you draw the line, who says what we can write about or not?



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 02:24 PM
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If the book is potentially harming (Pedophilia, murder, rape and so on) or the author is detailing their own accounts of a violent crime(s) they committed they should be responsible for the content. Both the seller, author and publisher are all responsible. Freedom of speech is as free as the consequences are, your free to say what ever you want no ones stopping you you have to deal with the consequences of your actions. For every action there is an equal reaction.



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 02:24 PM
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Are you saying as humans we are too simple to be able to differentiate between different situations? Why does it have to be black and white? Why can't laws be specific to protect our kids? A small minded person will try and blanket existing and all future "ideas" under one umbrella.

As an advanced species...we better start proving it.. And start protecting our most valuable asset- Our Children.

I would kill this man myself, if given the chance.
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posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 02:26 PM
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So words on a piece of paper is worthy of censoring or worthy of jail time? Interesting precedent you people are setting. I'm sure power hungry small minded people won't exploit it in the future. Is the author a terrorist?





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