reply to post by Shenon
Don´t be too quick to dismiss everything they post,because most of it is from other News Sources. And you´re right,they are trying to sell
their Book,but even when this is the Case,you shouldn´t be too quick to dismiss others Ideas...because if you do that,you are starting to become like
every other Mainstream "Scientist" out there who hates everyone who disagrees with their established Theory.
I should have thought by now that you would have realised that I am very open to other theories - when they have some reasonable basis for the
hypothesis. If you don't realise that then go to the Geophysics thread and see the ideas that I like to entertain. Electric Universe etc, even
expanding earth and surge tectonics.
If someone has an idea I will look at it. What I will not look at is pseudo-babble pumped out for the purpose of selling a book, is that OK?
Edit for above Post: You are good at making Quake Graphs and all that Stuff,but you seem to have forgotten what i suggested last Time
You can´t just look at the (confirmed) amount of Volcanos which erupted in each Year and say "its all normal". Come on,youre better than
this,aren´t you? If a VEI 8 erupted,those Numbers wouln´t mean #. Or would you say last Year was normal? Wasn´t there some Icelandic Volcano that
forced alot of People to stay on the Ground?
Did I actually say "it's all normal"? I think I just gave the numbers.
Yes last year was normal. Eyjafjallajokull was not an abnormal eruption at all. The fact that some humans were not able to fly has absolutely no
bearing on the normality of the eruption. Note that Grimsvotn ejected to a much greater height, and I believe more material than Eyja. 10,000 tons of
ash a second at the start of the eruption. I don't have a VEI figure for it yet.
If a VEI 8 eruption occurred we would not be on the Internet
Why are you saying I am not looking far enough when it is me that has introduced the use of energy release as a measure of earthquakes as opposed to
numbers, something that people here did not do before - and this is beginning to be seen out on the internet as well.
I´m suggesting something you do with Quake Data/Graphs regulary. For example,the Strenght of the Eruptions each Year,and the amount of
Material that got out. This could tell us if the pressure inside the Earth is increasing,or decreasing,or something along those Lines.
I agree with you as far as the amount of ejecta being a measure for the year and I am working on it. Those volcano numbers were not mine, they came
from Smithsonian. Anyway I still do not see any reasoning from that site as to why 2010 had the most volcanic activity in recorded history. That is
just plain and simple nonsense.
As far as the 'pressure' inside the Earth is concerned I think you have been reading too much of the pseudo-science on that site. The pressure in
the earth is similar to the pressure in the oceans, that is to say it is from the weight of water, or material above. Do the oceans try and burst out?
The statement made in that article was "This is telling us a most important piece of information- there are not enough terrestrial volcanoes on land
to equilibrate the geological pressures now unsettling the ground." makes it patently obvious that they have not got a clue what they are talking
about. For a start most of the material ejected is under the sea so I am afraid his reasoning is flawed.
Concering Earthquakes,i don´t think you ever answered to one of my Questions,on why you don´t include the Depth/Magnitude - Ratio to
determine the "True" Strenght of an Earthquake. For example,a 9.0 in 10km Depth is a little stronger than a 9.0 in 400km Depth,wouln´t you say?
Sure,they release the same amount of Energy on you pretty little Graphs and Diagrams (i like those btw,no offense),but tell those to the People in
Christchurch,where the smaller/shallower Quake killed more People than the stronger/deeper one...I hope you know where i´m coming from,this
Yes I know what you are saying. It is not the strength of the earthquake however it is the effect of the earthquake. The depth/magnitude ratio is NOT
a measure of the true strength. A 9.0 at 10km depth is exactly the same strength as a 9.0 at 400km. The results of course would be radically
different. If we take this to more realistic level then as an example a 6.0 in Alaska would be very considerably less devastating than a 6.0 in Mexico
City - not only because there is a much greater population at risk, but because the geology of the two areas is completely different. Mexico City is
much like Christchurch in terms of effects sustained. Is the Sun stronger than the largest star? No, not by a long long unimaginable way, but by your
reasoning it is since we feel the effects of the Sun and not of the largest start in the Universe
This is where the peak ground velocity and peak ground acceleration come in, and these are the measure of the 'strength' of an earthquake in terms
of potential effects, but not of energy release. That is the same wherever the earthquake occurs. Obviously when looking at global or near global
figures you cannot take PGV and PGA into account because of the wide disparity of the areas in question.
Sorry for the Rant,but your "Amount of Volcanos that erupted each Year" Numbers just hit pissed me off a little. Each Volcano is different in
Strenght,so those Numbers you posted mean little,in my Opinion.
As I said, not my numbers.
By the way if you think the numbers mean little, and as I said I do in some ways agree, why don't YOU do the numbers
for the volumes of material?. Why does it have to be me and a few others doing all the running? See if you can prove that "In 2010, we saw the most
volcanic eruptions in recorded history " as stated on that site.
By the way one of the problems of that is for example Arenal and similar. Where do you find annual VEI figures for those volcanoes? Arenal started
erupting in 1968 and (may have) ended in 2010. The figure for VEI is given as 3. Does that sound likely? I don't know. Eyja was VEI 4. (I would also
point out that all these things take up much time and what you are asking takes even more time. It cannot happen overnight. I do have other things to
attend to as well as ATS.)
And someone has to remind you now and then to continue with an open Mind (and you seem to be starting to lose that,lately)
I can assure I am not!