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I just left my wife because she is a climate change denier (I'm not kidding)

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posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 05:01 AM
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Your post kinda proves my point don't ya think?




posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 05:09 AM
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Edit: I don't see the relevance in associating somebody with mental issues (your wife) and a person that has come to the conclusion that Climate Change is not real (climate change deniers). It just seems silly that you are trying to demonise those who don't believe in what you do as having mental issues.

There is no correlation between one's views on Climate Change and one's Mental Health. It might be that the mindset shows a pattern on all issues, but not just one that you have decided to focus on.
edit on 20/12/2010 by Dark Ghost because: refined



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 05:09 AM
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Originally posted by The_Liberator
My wife has something called narcissistic personality disorder (lucky me, I know!). This is a serious mental illness that can ruin marriages and destroy the mental health of children (and yes we have a son together).

HAVING READ YOUR BELOW STATEMENTS ,I HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT YOU ARE THE ONE WITH THE NARCISSTIC PERSONALITY AND THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

One of the main problems with my wife is that she blames me for EVERYTHING and facts simply do not matter to her.

READING YOUR POST ,SHE WOULD BE CORRECT

I say: “honey, I just read a study that said babies should not watch television so I think we should be careful not to let our son watch too much tv”

BEACAUSE IT WAS ON TELEVISION I GUESS IT MUST BE REAL .WAS THIS THE SAME PEOPLE THAT TELL YOU FLURIDE IS GOOD FOR YOU ?

Her: “why don't you try coming home and saying something positive, all you do is criticize and tell me what I'm doing wrong”

YEAH THAT MIGHT HAVE WORKED , BUT IT JUST WORKED OUT FOR THE BEST FOR HER AND YOUR SON .WOULD LOVE TO BE THERE YEARS FROM NOW WHEN HE COMES LOOKING FOR YOU .

Me: “why does everything have to become a fight with you?”

BECAUSE YOU ARE A JERK !

Her: “because you treat me like crap and criticize everything I do! WHY DON'T YOU TRY BEING A REAL HUSBAND!”

(the above actually happened believe it or not)
OH I BELIEVE IT ! AND COULDN'T AGREE MORE , TAKES A REAL MAN TO ABANDON HIS SON OVER HIS DELUDED POLITICS

I cannot discuss reality with her because everything is distorted and turned against me. She says something and then a few minutes later says “I didn't say that....I NEVER said that!!!”.

OF COURSE YOU CAN'T DISCUSS REALITY , BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO SENSE OF IT

It's crazy making.

YUP

We have been in therapy for over a year and all I have seen is the abuse escalate.

WELL STOP ABUSING HER THEN .YOUR THERAPY IS NOT WORKING SO I SUGGEST ELECTRIC SHOCK THERAPY FOR YOU .

Well last week was her birthday so I threw a surprise party for her and got her an Apple tv as a present.

QUESTION CAN YOUR SON WATCH THIS ?

The next day I hooked up the Apple TV and asked if she liked it and she said, “well I don't know when I'm ever going to be able to watch movies but, I guess”

I GUESS SHE DOESN'T HAVE MUCH TIME SINCE SHE HAS TO LOOK AFTER YOUR SON MORE NOW THAT HE CAN'T WATCH TELEVISION

At that point I had had enough. I took the Apple tv, packed up some clothes and left. I returned the gift and have been staying at my fathers house for the past week.

FEEL HAPPY FOR YOUR WIFE , BAD FOR YOUR SON BUT NO HE'S BETTER OFF ! SO JUST FEELING SORRY FOR YOUR DAD . AT THAT POINT I TOOK MY BALL AND WENT HOME

I left my wife because she operates exactly like a climate change denier. In her mind, I am the bad guy, and I'm sure any deniers reading this will think that THEY are right and that I am the one cherry picking. But just as it is obvious to you that my wife is crazy as a loon, it is equally obvious to me that you are just as irrational as she.

SO WHO'S IN DENIAL ? WHO'S THE LOON ? IF ONLY YOU COULD HEAR YOUR SELF OVER THAT NOISE IN YOUR HEAD .

I have studied the topic of global warming almost obsessively for 2 years now and I know more about the topic than I care to admit (that's just my personality). It's bad, it's getting worse, and there is nothing we can do to stop it.

OBSESSIVELY , DO YOU JUST REALISE WHAT YOU HAVE JUST SAID ABOUT YOURSELF ?

And the next time you read a post saying that global warming is a “hoax”, just remember my wife. In her mind, she is right even though any fool can see that she is mentally ill. Climate deniers also think they are right......but we know better.

WE THE INMATES OF WARD 9 ?



Jezzz friend you have some issues , I hope things get better for your wife and kid now , Hope you can get some help for that .Peace out .



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 05:16 AM
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I think your wife is angry for a lot of reasons. And she is bringing it up even when it make no sense to you. I bet if you get to the bottom of her problems you will find that out. Communicating on a emotional level is hard especially if you dont know how your actions effect others.

One thing i have noticed on ATS is that everyone wants to be right about their views. If a hundred people read the same article about global warming and weather changes. You will probably have 100 different views and understanding.

That is because we have different knowledge understanding about the topic before we read the article. And to top it of we all want to be right about our personal interpretation. We dont like to be corrected by another persons view and understanding.
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posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 05:17 AM
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Yes, it proves your point. No really, Mez. It does. You are right. No really, mate. The world is freezing into an Ice Age and Warming due to a persevering relationship that CO2 has with Temperature, like you posted in Libby's thread. Yeah, you make sense mate. No really. No you do. Totally.
(quitely backs out of room and away from the cwazy)



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 05:37 AM
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Originally posted by The_Liberator

Originally posted by Faiol[...]
It is relevant because my wife taught me that some people are simply incapable of discussing FACTS. My wife will go to her grave thinking that she was "right"[...]

So will you!!!


2nd line: don't know who's worse, climate change deniers or anthropogenic climate change liers...

Climates change, we are due to have a natural ice age. The thirties were warmer than the last ten years.
Having said that, it's innacceptable to pollute the environment, chop down (rain)forests etc. etc.
edit on 20-12-2010 by Aldolas because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 05:39 AM
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Maybe your should actually listen to your wife and try to get to the root of her anger. Saying you left her because she had a different opinion from you on something makes you sound like an unstable, unreliable jerk, which seems to be what she's angry about.

Just because she has a mental health issue doesnt mena she's wrong about everything and you cant use that to dismiss all her opinions, that too is a complete dick move.

Honestly do you think there's anything respectable abpout an irresponsible unreliable guy who would leave a woman over a difference of opinions? Man the hell up.



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by The_Liberator

Originally posted by GirlGenius


I haven't COMPLETELY given up hope yet.....just 99%.


On the off chance you guys get back together, I sure hope she gets wind of this thread. She will make your life Pure Hell!

And, you know what ... you will deserve it for posting this.


And how the hell would she ever know that this thread is about her? I am completely anonymous here.....and by the way, thanks for the support!


I dont think your cover is as good as you think...

www.ecologicalinternet.org...

If I can find it, she can find it.

You should try and talk things through as hard as it seems, theres always a way.

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posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 05:45 AM
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Im a bit confused. Global warming has been pushed down out throats for so long by corrupt governments who are desperate to convince the public that the world is heating up.

Now I believe that climate change may be taking place but only because this is something that happens naturally anyway all throughout earths history. Global warming is something I am very suspicious about....

If Global warming is taking place then why are our winters getting colder and more severe? Shouldnt they be getting milder?



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 05:47 AM
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Sounds like my ex, it's a real job trying to maintain a normal relationship for the sake of my kids, I like how the change deniers like to call it natural as if that means there'll be no problems and we shouldn't take measures to mitigate the effects or plan to cope with them.



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 05:49 AM
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Please. Allow me to add some corrections to your closure:


Originally posted by The_Liberator (then edited by Strype)

I have studied my views on the topic of global warming almost obsessively for 2 years now and I know more about my views on the topic than I care to admit (that's just my personality). In my opinion, It's bad, it's getting worse, and there is nothing we can do to stop it.

And the next time you read a post saying that global warming is a “hoax”, just remember my wife. In her mind, she is right even though any fool can see that she is mentally ill. Climate deniers also think they are right......but we think we know better.


Problem solved. However I am sorry to hear about your loss. Hope you're able to find what you're looking for.


Cheers,
Strype
edit on 20-12-2010 by Strype because: Moved text



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 06:08 AM
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I bet i can make a very plausible explanation about weather changes and why we see more earthquakes. And i bet i would get at least two or three to agree with me.

Earth has a natural echo system set in motion by it location to different planets, stars and the sun. And by what earth is made up by.

By the energies that inter act with earth. Earth has evolved.

Earths gassy atmosphere is a part of earth natural echo system. Earths atmosphere has just the right pressure and the different gasses are located where they are supposed to be. Earth atmosphere gives the solid, organic and liquid earth the right weight/pressure/gravity. But what has changed?

Something has changed when it comes to earth natural atmosphere. We humans have started to pump out more unnatural gasses into the natural created atmosphere. It doesn't matter if we poor out natural gasses. It still ain't part of earth natural production of gasses. We humans are adding more gas to the atmosphere. We humans are adding more weight onto the solid and liquid earth. We are not just adding more weigh onto earth with these gasses, we are also making the natural atmosphere expand upwards. Because we are increasing the pressure.

What happens to a balloon if you keep on increasing air pressure? Well the Balloon gets thinner as it expands " gets bigger". But the balloon also gets heavier as well. And it will be heaviest in the middle because that's where the pressure will be highest.

What does this have to do with earth?

Well when we pump more unnatural gasses into the atmosphere. The outer edges of our atmosphere gets thinner as the pressure increases. And because of the wight the solid and liquid (water) earth will gain more wight, putting more pressure on the earths core. Pressure on the core means more heat. And heat expands upwards heating up the solids on its way up.

Lets talk about what happens when atmosphere pressure increases. First of we create a disorder in where earth natural gasses are normally located because of pressure. Earths natural created gasses exchange places with unnatural gasses we pump into the atmosphere. If there is a pressure and weight differential between them. This will cause plants and organic life to die, other life forms die or relocate.

What happens to earth?

Earth is not totally solid, there are pockets of gas and liquid kilometer down. What happens to this space when earth gets heavier? Well the weight and compression on the solids will try and take up this space. This will cause movement on the surface and in the atmosphere.





edit on 27.06.08 by spy66 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 06:12 AM
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Firstly. NEVER go back to your wife. It wouldn't be good for your kid you or your narcissist. I know exactly where you're coming from. I had a similar relationship and wasted 5 years of my life trying to make it work and now 5 years since we split I've still not recovered fully. If she's anything like my ex narcissist she'll have cheated on you too, anytime the opportunity arose.

Now, regarding climate change. The Earths climate is forever in flux. So climate change is a normal state of being from the very beginning.

However, there is no such thing as manmade global warming. Anybody with an average IQ and the desire to look for answers cannot fail to come to that conclusion. Man is responsible for environmental damage not climate change nor global warming.



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 06:17 AM
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Al Gore is a moronic fool who was completely undeserving of a Nobel, the evidence has been steadily piling up against man made climate change for quite some time now.

She's better off, I'm not sure about you though, you sound like you just want someone who will always agree with you. That's called a slave, not a wife.

People are entitled to have different view points, if you can't appreciate that, than you don't deserve to be with anyone.



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 06:20 AM
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I think it's a little extreme to say that climate change deniers have no regard for facts. I don't doubt that the climate is changing, I do however doubt that we have a significant impact on it. I'm sorry that I don't swallow every piece of speculation that Al Gore and the rest of his money hungry lackeys try to shove down my throat. I accept the fact that I may be wrong, but I'm entitled to my opinion as are you. You, Liberator, seem to be the one who has issues with the fact that you could be wrong. Have you ever had a religious debate with someone? I don't know if you are Christian, Atheist, Pagan, whatever, but my point is this argument amounts to the same thing: Everyone presents the evidence, which is often the same facts, skewed ever so slightly to support whichever side you may be on, everyone claims to have an open mind and then proceeds to ridicule everyone else for being "ignorant of the facts" which are clearly more open to interpretation than any of the sides want to admit. I really don't care to argue about it, because it obviously doesn't matter to you what I or anyone else who disagrees with you believes, because your mind is already made up. We have seen the same figures you have, we just think half of it is bull. The earth has been changing in cycles for as long as it's been here. What if we are contributing? Is that going to change the fact that regardless we may all wake up dead in 10 years because the earth decided to pop up a volcano every 3 miles or freeze all the oceans? No. Our carbon output could be helping to prevent a new ice age right now, how do you know that isn't the case? I personally think anyone who is so firmly rooted in their beliefs that they perceive everyone else to be crazy or ill informed is treading in dangerous territory. If you tell me I am not real and back up that claim with factual evidence, I will have to give it some consideration. Doesn't mean I'm going to agree with you.

As for your wife, I sympathize. I may be a few fries short of a happy meal myself but I dated a girl once that put me through an emotional hell the likes of which.. well you probably have seen. I don't think she ever saw a therapist, but I feel pretty okay with saying she was horribly bi-polar and somewhat delusional. You could see her entire attitude change in minutes, and hear it in her voice. When we were good, we were amazing but when we were bad, prepare for turbulence. She would literally tell me she loves me then tell me we needed to break up, sometimes 10 minutes apart (and sometimes more than once in a day), and with no reason or disagreement beforehand, or make up a reason. Then apologize and tell me she loves me again and start to plan out our future together. Once she even said "God told me to break up with you" and was being completely serious. She claimed that her mother hated me (which I don't believe), accused me of cheating on her because she saw me conversing with a female friend, claimed that I had too many issues for her, and would change her mind and say I was the best thing that ever happened to her. I never did anything but put forth my best foot and try to make it work because I had an admiration for her that I now see was misguided, at best. I was a nice guy, maybe too nice, and she helped to ruin that. I'm more pessimistic, less forgiving, quicker to judge, more detached, and more paranoid about people because of her. Many people don't understand personality disorders until they've been in the situation -- trust me I had no idea what I was in for and it broke me down until I decided I had to get out for my sanity's sake. I feel like some of the people on here are giving you more hell than you deserve because they have never had to deal closely with someone who isn't all that stable, or they want to discount all mental disorders as excuses, when there is an undeniable abnormality of thought process at work.

That being said, I think there is also some work that could be done on your end to understand what she is thinking and why, and try to do some damage control instead of blaming everything on her issues. I feel that if you can understand her thought processes better, you can #1 keep her from getting in your head and roping you in (compounding the problem) and #2 help to maybe approach her differently so as not to spark a problem where there isn't one. Maybe see a different therapist. I know you feel the need to run, but you have a kid with this woman and you will have to deal with her in some capacity until that kid grows up, might as well make it the best it can be and even if you can't or don't want to patch things up, make sure you are there for the child and that child is safe. In my case that girl is thankfully my ex, and after a few years of silence and avoidance we have started talking again on a weekly or so basis via text or instant messaging. We are very civil now and I feel like she has learned to control herself better since we were together. Not that I'd be inclined to go for round 2 if it was an option.
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posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 06:31 AM
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This has very little to do with climate change, and as far as I can see is a private maritial matter between you and your spouse.



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 06:32 AM
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Sure. Sounds to me like you found some reason to label her because she couldn't see your way.

Your way or no way hmm? Great husband. Maybe she'll find a real man.



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 06:56 AM
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Hey sorry about your marriage. If it's any consultation to you I got to admit my wife and I've had some of those same exact fights. I still love her though. I think for the most part they are tests. Remember FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE! Be a man suck it up. No matter what you think, your son needs you at home! The world is F'ed up like you said, your family needs guidance not words. Teach by the actions you make. Change will happen regardless. Are you ready? No more time for talk just do. Remember the good times that brought you two together. You got a SON! We have daughters, I would love to have son, to teach him about the real world. Your Grass is GREEN bro.

Besides that the rest you brought up is obvious that's correct and at this point it doesn't matter why. Time to get ready for what ever!



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 07:08 AM
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Very insightful and informative post sir! Thank you.



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 07:11 AM
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Sounds like youre both nuts. She takes nonsense personally and youre one of those "the news said...!!!" people no doubt frantically staying up to 11 to see what that thing in your cabinet is that could be killing you right now.





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