Professional engineer Jon Cole cuts steel columns with thermate, debunks Nat Geo & unexpectedly repr

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1. Can thermitic material melt steel?

Any engineer or any person that has experience with thermite materials should know that they can melt through ridiculously thick pieces of steel. I didn't watch that Nat Geo show, but it seems like they were promoting a whole bunch of blatant lies.

Great video. What puzzles me is how they got the thermite into the building in the first place. Sounds stupid, but could it have been put into the building during construction of the WTC? I know it sounds far fetched, but could 9/11 have been 40 years in the making.

Originally posted by snoochieboochies
Great video. What puzzles me is how they got the thermite into the building in the first place. Sounds stupid, but could it have been put into the building during construction of the WTC? I know it sounds far fetched, but could 9/11 have been 40 years in the making.

edit on 20-12-2010 by snoochieboochies because: WTC was planned in 60's not 70's

Actually, it can. You should check out this guy Rik Clay, he was at some swedish radio talking about the 2012 olympics, and in the first part of the show he mentions the foundation of WTF as an important event in the agenda of the TPTB.
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Originally posted by SmedleyBurlap
This only brings up new mysteries, like how the terrorists got thermite inside of the columns, and how they got a hold of nanothermite. Who would have access to a high tech US military grade explosive?

The Us military!

Terrorists didn't do this, the us government did... if you do a bit more research you'll see that the building's security was removed, including dogs, lifts were closed with armed guards on them and there were several power downs, all shortly before it happened.

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That must have been sarcasm.... if it wasn't then all of humanity is doomed

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Classical thread..
Not even two pages with 73 flags...

And the best part???
Them damn fool debunkers are suddenly silent..

Originally posted by prepared4truth
Aww man you have just saved my ass. A few people wouldn't believe me when I said thermite brought down the Towers, but

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Who's laughing now?!

Thanks a lot OP!

I think your friends laughed because they thought you meant TERMITES took down WTC

Great to have some scientific proof i can show my sheep friends, i tried showing them Videos of testimonies and circumstantial evidence, but ofcorse as the sheep they are, they only see the shadows the Government wants them to see

Finally i have something Scientific which is illustrated

Ok, so NatGeo put out deliberately misleading information... that in itself is a big warning sign. Lies are being told, the true nature of the events are being hidden. I've read countless theories, definite facts and obvious lies about the day and I'm left not really knowing what happened but I know for certain that the truth is being hidden and I'm very confident that there is a massive, enormous conspiracy that is still active in our world.

Originally posted by FlySolo
I can't convey enough how grateful I am for this information age we live in. Wikileaks, Anon, youtube, independent scientists with the ability to get the truth out. Damn, the government must be on high alert! Iran and Korea must be the least of their worries.

Certain cables released by Wikileaks indicate that Iran and North Korea are not the threats they appear to be and are in fact secret assets of the US government in that the appearance of the threat can be used as a political leveraging tool.
Sorry to go off topic, just thought it was worth addressing as we now have new information so perhaps we should consciously update our generic world view.

This guy deserves a medal for his efforts to show the truth. Brilliant video.

Imagine living next door to this bloke ........ awesome

OP thanks for posting

Originally posted by bsbray11

He shows in the video at 6:14: iron oxide, aluminum, barium nitrate, and sulfur. So it's not just basic thermite (iron oxide and aluminum).

Keep in mind it was Thermate, not thermite. Thermate contains sulfur and barium nitrate, along with aluminium powder and iron oxide.

But whatever it is, the interesting part is that he can duplicate the same effects as seen in the WTC collapse.

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Urban Moving Systems.....thats how they gpt the rexplosives into the towers!
It fits if that is the name of the company that moved the large shipping firm(yes it was jewish)out of the towers in the weeks just prior to 9/11.The regular use of explosive sniffing dogs in the buildings was also curtailed around this time....
The security firm which protected the towers was run by a close relaative of GWB
Urban Moving Systems, is /was a Mossad front company for their operations in the USA.(not the only one)
The lease of this company (a huge shpping firm) ran for another 6 months, but they insisted on moving out early to the extra cost of 50,000 to break the lease.
I think they operated on more than one floor....
This size of a corporate move would give ample cover to shuffling in a lot of thermate.
As the five dancing Isrealis also worked for this UMS, things begin to tie in as their truck was positive for explosives.,,,,There was another truck stopped on 9/11 (ON a NYC Bridge) that was carrying explosives, as well as belonging to UMS , and driven by a Mossad agent.too.
Another incident took place near chicago where a mid eastern looking guy was throwing furniture from a van into a dumpster....when questioned by police the van turned up positive for explosives a well.This was another Mossad agent, along with the owner of UBS(who has fled to isreal shortly after 9/11)and the five dancing movers also were Mossad.
Oddly enough there was an isreali killed in one of the aircraft. What was an isreali special commando officer doing aboard?Travelling perhaps.....
The Mossaad has a long and bloody history of false flag attacks on US and other installations and trying to blame the arab people.
Anyone remember the Levon Affair?
Bomb plot in Cairo exposed isrealis posing as arabs and planting bombs.
There have been plenty others too....
Embassies and hotels,etc.
This is documented facts!
I have to go with my gut here, the coincidences dont stop
Dov Zackheim, Comptroller of the missing pantagon trillions, became Ceo of a company specialising in remote control systems for aircraft, as well as a method for taking control of an airliner in flight from another plane or location.!He too i believe has returned to the homeland......
Considering the amount of assets the Mossad runs in the USA, its ally. With high goverment cooperation and assistance, it would have been duck soup for the Mossad to engineer and pull off the whole 9/11 scenario,
Many intelligence experts from all over have averred it would have required the resources of a goverment covert operation, funded and abetted by the goverment in question, to have accomplished 9/11
Where did the fanatics come from you ask?
They were drawn from the ranks of radical zionists.The kind that carry an uzi and settle ever deeper into palestinian lands.Moving in lock stock and families, right into harms way, for the expansion of the homeland. for Zion.....
The zionist fanaticism is amply illustrated through such acts as the assassination of Yitsak rabin, on the eve of peace negotiations,The mass murder of a random bunch of worshippers in a jerusalem mosque by a lone zonist gunman, who, after running out of ammmo, did not try to escape even, but just stood there, and let the surviving grief enraged mob tear him to pieces.
Do you think it may have been possuble to find a few more equaly fanatic zionists, to fly the planes on 9.11 knowing they were on a suicide mission?
I sure do......I know there are some more angles but its getting late.......s

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Instead of falsehoods, innuendoe and speculation how about some reliable sources to establish any of that as fact ? ( plse not Alex Jones ! )

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Were all the materials available on site to create thermite naturally?


yes.

Originally posted by snoochieboochies
Great video. What puzzles me is how they got the thermite into the building in the first place. Sounds stupid, but could it have been put into the building during construction of the WTC? I know it sounds far fetched, but could 9/11 have been 40 years in the making.

edit on 20-12-2010 by snoochieboochies because: WTC was planned in 60's not 70's

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Like Rik Clay's research, which cost him his life, this research is indepth, and covers a large span of time, many decades with all things concerning those towers down on strategic dates and according to the numbers and Egyptian Astrology. The evidence is overwhelming, and they do everything decades in advance, and merely play out role/scripts.

Originally posted by wcitizen
Excellent. I was surprised when I saw the same kind of smoke being created.

The debunkers are always asking for proof....well, now they've got some!

edit on 19-12-2010 by wcitizen because: (no reason given)

I'd even spot ypu a "Plausible" that the fire stream was thermite.
If the building was as strong as it is made out to be, this is from only one spot on one floor and no where near the Inital drop. And why didn't the lower floors drop before upper floors, and still doesn't explain how it got there or when.

The same argument still remains, doesn't make cents.

Originally posted by bsbray11

Originally posted by wcitizen
Excellent. I was surprised when I saw the same kind of smoke being created.

So was I, it was almost like deja vu, even though most of the cloud was blown off-camera. Just shows that he wasn't expecting it either.

Btw I forgot to mention, it shows that part at 11:20 in the video. There are also excerpts from the NIST report in there talking about the explosive ejections from the building and how NIST was unable to determine what was causing them, of course, just like all the explosions that they just totally neglected to mention throughout their reports.

Yes, and they came up with some strange phrase to describe the 'explosions' - something 'pressure', I can't exactly remember now.

The part of the metal which was cut in the experiment looked very much like some of the metal beams in the 9/11 debris.

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Great information.

I imagine the ole lie about thermate not being able to cut vertical columns has been "mythbusted" now (no thanks to "mythbusters" of course).

On a side note bsbray: Imagine this setup on two seperate stories near the plane crashes (core included). Do you believe a verinage collapse would ensue?

Then, to aid in collapse, certain support elements taken out along the way (the jets of smoke we see)?

That is what I was getting at in the other thread.

S&F

Why is this still being discussed lol. We already know 9/11 was hoaxed, we should move forward toward the next step in the process, like arresting those responsible, like the vice president. ''Ofcourse the order still stands'

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The engineer that made the video did a very nice presentation of why the investigation of 911 should be gone over again. It would also be nice to know if WikiLeaks is holding back some type of information on 911.