reply to post by kallisti36
It is true Pike was a Confederate War Criminal (accused) but he was accused as such by the Confederacy and not the Union.
Pike had an uncanny knack throughout the war of not getting nearer anything with a sharp point than his tailor’s needles. While it might not be
entirely fair to call him a coward he did his best to choose his battle’s wisely and as far as most historians are concerned he is still waiting
that opportunity to join his first one!
Ranking Pike up there with Forest is a complete academic breakdown.
Further it would be helpful to actually know why the Civil War was fought as it was not fought for State’s rights and it was not fought for Slavery.
Prior to and after the Revolutionary War, when the Americas were largely virgin forest inhabited by the indigenous Americans three types of colonies
were set up to exploit the Americas, these were a. Proprietary Colonies (like Pennsylvania) these colonies had a sole proprietor like William Penn, b.
Charter Colonies (Like Virginia) these colonies had a corporate governance like the Virginia Company, and the Massachusetts Bay Company, and finally
you had Crown Colonies (often the Crown would try to usurp Proprietary and Charter Colonies once they were up and running, often though the territory
was originally founded as a Crown Colony).
As the original proprietors of the colonies arrived from Europe they would have their surveyors assess the land for minerals, mining and farming
opportunities, waterways and other routes that the bounty of the land could be gotten to seaports and to market.
As each opportunity was identified trade associations set up to build the infrastructures so that the raw materials could be extracted, or grown and
then shipped to markets would write back to Europe with detailed proposals on a case by case basis and state the specifics of each opportunity, how
many people would be needed to work it, and how much money would be needed to develop it.
The people who were sent were considered “stock” investment, the loans made to develop these infrastructure improvements, mines and farms were
considered “bond” investments.
So if it took 80,000 people to build the Erie Canal, 80,000 shares of stock were required, and if it took 2,000,000 pounds to buy the building
materials and to pay for and house the stock, then 2,000,000 pounds in bonds were required.
European Royals, and Nobles and their Agents could send humans or cash as an investment to develop these things.
However needless to say they own these things since they provided the labor and the capital to create them, and they have to be paid.
Now perhaps the greatest crime the Masons and the Government are guilty of is not explaining these tedious little details to you, of why we owe
foreign debt, who it’s owed to, what it’s owed for, and the fact that we can’t ever get out from underneath this debt, since well, they (the
foreign investors) own these things.
However by the 1850’s a number of the Southern States wanted to get out from under the debt because they were in default on the debts! Several were
way behind in their bond and stock payments, and the Agents of the European principles have always used one very powerful tool to make sure they get
The real story about the management change you know as the Revolutionary War!
We become an unruly, angry, betrayed and otherwise ungovernable mass for the government the minute it is definitively proved that they have been lying
to us for over 200 years and that the majority of our tax money goes to foreign investors and always has, because almost all of the United States is
foreign owned, and we fight in overseas wars, because most of the people of the United States are still the property of the Royals and Nobles who sent
them over here in the first place.
Our government in fact exists as one huge collection agency to make sure everyone gets paid.
You see, to offset the cost of the enterprises, the stock themselves were levied part of the wages they were paid, to make these highly profitable
ventures for the investors.
When more and more of the Southern States defaulted on their debt they tried to break away and declare it null and void, and create their own nation
free of the debt.
However in a world where you can’t steal a pack of chewing gum without getting sent to jail, you can’t go around stealing people’s railroads,
and mines, and seaports and farms, so this left the Northern States in a very bad situation.
Either they would have to pay back the Southern State’s debts, making them economically insolvent in the process, or risk exposure by the Europeans
if they did not force the South back into the Union and make them start paying back their debts.
The civil war was in fact one huge debt collection effort, and after the war, while the original 13th amendment was quietly discarded barring anyone
of nobility or title (esquires) from public office, they rewrote it to free the blacks from physical bondage, but then wrote the fourteenth amendment
to make everyone property of the corporate state, and to bequeath greater rights on corporate entities than human beings.