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The occultist Illuminati purpose behind the gay agenda in the USA.

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posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 09:39 PM
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Please provide source material to support the numbers you quoted in your post. And your supposition that prison is some sort of gay indoctrination facility is just plain ridiculous.




posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 09:40 PM
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This is without a doubt the most disgusting thread I've ever read on ATS.

OP= No stars, No Flags and I wish I had the ignore button.

OP the words that you use are 100% fearmongering and your "facts" are complete speculation.

Your worldview belongs in some medievel nightmare.




posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 09:46 PM
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Jaxon, I have no homophobia at all. But I imagine saying all those negative things towards me somehow makes you feel better. I have a phobia of sexual deviancy, not homosexuals.

Am I saying homosexuals shouldn't have equal rights? Have I said that I don't support homosexuals? Not at all...

I've merely stated that I recognize the push for sexual deviancy under the 'gay' brand. I have even stated that I recognize a large majority of homosexuals are not behind this or aware of it.

So I ask that if you bother to reply to me, or anyone for that matter that you take the time to actually rebut a point, not merely fling your arms about yelling.



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 10:13 PM
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Here's a good summary that should have all of your sources available: www.fathermag.com...



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 10:18 PM
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Here's my take on the 1st 2 videos in the OP: I see Kevin Jennings & a student discussing "tactical issues" and an "agenda" to gradually bring about inclusion of education on gay issues into school curricula, as a step toward the possible alleviation of the unfair bigotry & hatred that is all too often directed at gay students in our schools.

By seizing on the quoted words above, you interpret something clandestine, simply because there is a very real need for tactical planning toward gradual progress in this area. Why? Because of the unreasoning hatred, borne of ignorance, directed at gay people in much of American society.

Next, Hillary gives a speech designed to reassure kids who might be feeling suicidal due to feeling like outsiders, or who may be catching some abuse due to "being gay, or being thought to be gay".
Somehow you determined that the White House is "encouraging teenagers to get into homosexuality".
Your interpretation of these videos is the best argument against your credibility.

You maintain that somehow, two people of the same gender can't practice loving, tantric sex in order to free their Kundalini, even though the feelings harbored in their hearts & spirits differ not at all from the feelings between a man & woman.
The Universe resonates to the energy, not to who's producing it. Do you really think it matters to the Universe that an influx of healthy sexual energy (even better if laced with love) comes from 2 people of the same gender?

Lastly, I still don't see what the warning is about. Is there some kind of magical power in educating straight people that will "turn them gay"? Or is it supposed to be the work of the devil? All this talk of "speeding up the agenda" would seem to suggest that you look at it that way, as though TPTB have decided to "make more gay people" faster than ever.

BTW, if there's any possibility that subtle psychological manipulation could cause a large number of formerly straight people to switch to a gay lifestyle, I suppose there could be some truth to the theory that we're all bisexual underneath the surface. Or could it be that heterosexuality is just an easily-shattered delusion suffered by the majority?
IMO, your logic ends up in one of those 2 places.

I almost hope you're merely a troll; if you're sincere, I'm sure your agitation & apprehension over the threat you perceive are very real for you.
And that's gonna plug up your chakras, fellah!



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 10:23 PM
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This is a troll thread, right? You know that homosexuals and pedophiles are almost always a different group. Pedophiles are usually straight, but there are gay pedophiles. They are not a joint movement. There may be a gay agenda in this country that is gaining ground, but the pedo agenda isn't going anywhere. When do you ever see someone arguing for pedophile rights? When's the last time you saw NAMBLA on the news? Are there kiddie-diddler parades in your town? This thread is stupid. I thought it got on the front page because OP discovered a clandestine Gay/pedo movement in the country.

EVERYONE STOP POSTING
DON'T FEED THE TROLL



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 10:24 PM
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OK, let's look at it one piece at a time, since you insist:


Originally posted by mryanbrown
The gay agenda is quite real, look no further than the perversion of the 1st Amendment.

Once originally held to be the right of free speech, that no man may be silenced or punished for his words. Slowly turned into a political helping hand for industrious money grubbing news agencies, shifting the perception of what free speech is away from the individual to the corporation....


Let us look at the 1st Amendment, shall we:


Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The U.S. Constitution

Now this Amendment covers freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of assembly. Those "industrious money grubbing news agencies" are covered under the part about freedom of the press, and I'm sure you wouldn't want the Government to start to regulate them, now would you? And since you had the freedom to post the rest of this drivel and are not in danger for posting it, then your right to free speech has not been hindered, thus your point is moot.


And the next phase :]

Free speech is no longer about the individuals right to say whatever they may, it's no longer about the corporation being able to disseminate truth.

It's about the right to self-expression, a protective blanket not just for gays/homosexuals but for the worst offenders... the 'flamers'.


Now we get into that part I was talking about. The hate you have for 'flamers' is not very well hidden. But apparently you feel that 'flamers' don't deserve the same freedom of expression that you enjoy, right?


The 1st amendment is more about protecting a 'flamers' right to dress in ONLY a thong in public during some overly sexualized and nearly pornographic parade. That select group of people, which is the real "gay agenda" would rather destroy communities and families and a centrist way of life than accept we don't accept not so much their sexual choice, but their flamboyant nature.


No, you are trying to stretch the 1st Amendment now to include dress codes. Pretty far stretch there, Bucko... Now since we both live in Phoenix, I'd just LOVE for you to point out to me when exactly anyone can go out into public in JUST a thong? And if you want to talk about "overly sexualized and nearly pornographic parade"s, then let's talk about Mardi Gras in New Orleans and Fantasy Fest in Key West. Both events are repleat with women flashing their breasts for cheap plastic beads, and others wearing nothing but spray paint. Both of these examples, as well as the Gay Pride Parades that you seem to be alluding to are covered however by the right of the people peaceably to assemble. You are not forced to attend any of these events. But your point is taken here, you don't hate queers, just flamboyant queers...


They are literally the most active 'minority' group when it comes to public demonstrations.


And also the only 'minority' group that still lacks equal rights, but how dare we be active! But again, this is covered by the right of the people peaceably to assemble.


So let's just think about this for a second and sum it up.

1st amendment used to be about the individuals right to free speech. Now the 1st amendment is protection for flamboyant homosexuals, and surprise surprise if you say something hateful you can now be punished.


It's still about the right of free speech, but there are limits to that. You cannot yell "FIRE" in a crowded building, and you cannot threaten someone with bodily harm. You can say all kinds of hateful things, but you cannot make hateful threats, and there is a big difference. And that applies EQUALLY to everyone, not just you homophobes.


Total reversal of the intentions behind the 1st amendment.


I think we've proven that this is BS...


And some of you think there's no agenda?

Look no one's saying every homosexual is behind the agenda, or aware of the agenda. But there is an agenda to rapidly push homosexuality at the expense of common sense and the law.


There are two agendas present here. The Homosexual Community has an agenda to achieve equal rights, and the Homophobic Community has an agenda to stop that from happening. I think we can all clearly see which side you are on... Now Good Day Sir!
edit on 19-12-2010 by JaxonRoberts because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 10:26 PM
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Odd that people feel they have to agree or disagree about homosexuality.
Unless you're in the bedroom with me, my sexuality doesn't require your opinion at all.
And people being out of control because it's "in their genes" is utter nonsense:
We'd all love to get into each others' jeans!
But most of us, straight or gay, do control ourselves.

The laundry list of conspiracy power points seem cut and pasted from The Protocols with
homosexuals crudely inserted.
There is no evil gay agenda-- just a gay schedule, one that involves sleeping late and drinking microbrews.
No one is "recruited", no one "turns" gay, and no one "chooses" to be gay.
And no one gets a free toaster for joining.

The antagonists here are either incredibly stupid or very clumsy devil's advocates.
Or, more than likely, both.

edit on 19-12-2010 by spacegod because: to clarify that the toasters new gays don't get are free.



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 10:27 PM
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Hah, funny you should ask...

There's actually far more media coverage of pedophilia in the recent years than ever before, most noticeably in the last 2.

The LGBT community loves "Precious", a movie about incestuous child rape. Amazon is selling "How To" pedophilia books, CNN is covering it. There are activists FOR pedophilia gaining media coverage. There is a sexual scene where grown women dress up as prepubescent girls for this very reason.

It won't be thrown at you, otherwise you won't accept it. It slowly creeps in over time, it's a shifting base-line.



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 10:33 PM
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I believe there is a gay agenda in the sense that this is something that is being used to manipulate and divide as well as to further the larger agenda. However, really? Did you know that homosexuality occurs in about the same proportion in nature? That it's not a lifestyle choice but an energetic and biological difference, not evil but natural (for those it is natural for any way.) In a sense, you, OP, are furthering the "illuminati gay agenda" by your close mindedness when it comes to people. Because gay people and straight people have something in common as they are all people, and all people oppressed by the same illuminati agenda. Did you not realize that the Christian fundamentalist movement and all that it does is also part of the Illuminati agenda? Indeed that organized religion itself (be it Christian, Muslim, or any other kind of rigid dogma) is a part of the Illuminati agenda?

I don't disagree with you in the sense that it is part of a larger social engineering plan and they themselves are known to engage in gay and or pedo activity (and we are in agreement, there is no defense of pedo behavior.) But really, in its multiple layers, the Illuminati agenda is no more complex than divide and conquer. Straights against Gays, Christian vs. Muslim, Black vs White, Arab vs Jew, and even something as absolutely artificial as North Effin Koreans vs. South Effin Koreans (cursing for emphasis not judgment.) Don't you get that this is the machinery of their agenda? Keep us fighting amongst ourselves so that we don't notice or really care what's going on behind the stage curtain. It's the theater of distraction and as soon as we start realizing it and quit fighting our brothers and sisters, that's when we might have a real chance to actually do something about the agenda, rather than just pinning it on a segment of the population that already gets shafted.

Now lay off our homosexual brothers and sisters (because that is precisely what they are) and please stop being part of the problem and focus your energy into being part of the solution instead,
edit on 19-12-2010 by coyotepoet because: clarity

edit on 19-12-2010 by coyotepoet because: punctuation



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
Now this Amendment covers freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of assembly. Those "industrious money grubbing news agencies" are covered under the part about freedom of the press, and I'm sure you wouldn't want the Government to start to regulate them, now would you? And since you had the freedom to post the rest of this drivel and are not in danger for posting it, then your right to free speech has not been hindered, thus your point is moot.


They aren't already regulated? Wikileaks being shut down? Can I not be convicted for your actions if I say something hurtful that causes you to do something? So yeah My freedoms have not been impeded at all...



Now we get into that part I was talking about. The hate you have for 'flamers' is not very well hidden. But apparently you feel that 'flamers' don't deserve the same freedom of expression that you enjoy, right?


They don't at all. It's nothing but attention seeking, it's nothing I would exercise.


No, you are trying to stretch the 1st Amendment now to include dress codes.

No, that's the LGBT community.


Pretty far stretch there, Bucko... Now since we both live in Phoenix, I'd just LOVE for you to point out to me when exactly anyone can go out into public in JUST a thong? And if you want to talk about "overly sexualized and nearly pornographic parade"s, then let's talk about Mardi Gras in New Orleans and Fantasy Fest in Key West. Both events are repleat with women flashing their breasts for cheap plastic beads, and others wearing nothing but spray paint. Both of these examples, as well as the Gay Pride Parades that you seem to be alluding to are covered however by the right of the people peaceably to assemble. You are not forced to attend any of these events. But you point is taken here, you don't hate queers, just flamboyant queers...


So I support heterosexual sexual deviancy not homosexual? Is this what you're trying to infer?


And also the only 'minority' group that still lacks equal rights, but how dare we be active! But again, this is covered by the right of the people peaceably to assemble.

They don't lack equal rights at all.


It's still about the right of free speech, but there are limits to that. You cannot yell "FIRE" in a crowded building, and you cannot threaten someone with bodily harm. You can say all kinds of hateful things, but you cannot make hateful threats, and there is a big difference. And that applies EQUALLY to everyone, not just you homophobes.


Tell that to people being tried for homosexuals killing themselves. They are being convicted merely for saying hurtful things. To garner support for the "gay agenda".



There are two agendas present here. The Homosexual Community has an agenda to achieve equal rights...


You were correct until this point ->


and the Homophobic Community has an agenda to stop that from happening. I think we can all clearly see which side you are on... Now Good Day Sir!



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 10:38 PM
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Stop being disingenous! The reason that the movie "Precious" received support in the LBGT Community is due to it's treatment of the AIDS issue, and not with the incestuous rape that the main character endured. Half truths and bold faced lies are the sign of a poor position!



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 10:38 PM
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You have a near-naked man in a loin cloth (potentially excited about something) as your avatar.



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 10:42 PM
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And coincidentally the movie wasn't truly about AIDS was it? So the community is actually furthering another issue because a small portion of it coincides with their internal conflicts?

Even if it had a positive message about hope and change, and Jesus and cute little bunnies... I wouldn't support it because it's a movie about incestuous rape! (Among a myriad of other psychological and social-engineering issues).

But the LGBT furthers the pedo-propoganda.



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 10:45 PM
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Wikileaks was shut down by it's vendors, not the government. The rest of your post was just double speak and added up to nothing...



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 10:46 PM
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Like you've seen the movie! You are just spouting off about something you know nothing about, and twisting it to fit YOUR agenda!



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 10:48 PM
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Meh, I'm not even reading all of the crap on this thread. Nope. Instead I'm just going to blast my opinion across it, as it appears to be full of ignoramuses doing the same.

Gay agenda? Pedo agenda? Seriously?

Look, I have tried to explain this to people before, but often the only ones that actually understand what I'm saying are those that agree with me to begin with. I am a straight male, and I am comfortable in my sexuality. This is rather rare, from what I have discovered. I don't need to perv out every time I see an attractive woman in order to feel more masculine, nor do I have to accuse anyone of trying to turn me gay. As a straight male, I can say very confidently that I have always been pro gay rights, yet never once thought it would be a good idea to have sex with another man. It's just not my thing. Neither is having sex with children, which is just sick, creepy, and nasty, not to mention scarring for the child. No one can change my sexuality, and one more time for those who missed it:

NO ONE CAN CHANGE MY SEXUALITY.

You can strap me to a table and have buttsex with me until my butt is numb, but YOU CAN'T CHANGE MY SEXUALITY. Before, during, and after the experience, I WILL STILL BE STRAIGHT.

WHO you are attracted to is programmed into you. If I were gay, I'm fully confident that I would not be able to conceive of being straight. As someone who's straight, I can't conceive of being gay. The idea that anyone could be CHANGED to gay is as ridiculous as the idea that someone could be CHANGED to straight. Guess what, they've tried it, and IT DOES NOT WORK.

EVEN if there were a "gay agenda" it would fail miserably, because only people who were gay to begin with would "turn gay". If you think something is turning you gay, maybe it's because you're in the closet, or just realizing you're gay (or bi), but no one is turning anyone gay. It just doesn't work that way.

Sorry if some people out there are afraid of certain feelings they have for members of the same sex, but guess what? You might just be a little gay. Heck, even I find Johnny Depp sexy, but then again if Johnny came up to me and asked me to "do it" I'd have to decline. I know that's hard to believe, Johnny's one sexy mofo, but as I said before, it's really just not my thing. Sometimes I think it's a shame; I'm a champ when it comes to deep-throating popsicles, and I hear that stimulation of the prostate sure feels good, but dudes are just not my thing. I'm a flamingly flamboyantly straight man, and nothing in this world is going to change the fact that I'm not gay.

Haters gonna hate, but there's no gay agenda. To anyone who bothered to read all this crap, I'm sorry, and to anyone who bothered to read all this crap and is still walking around with his head in his @$$, maybe you should pull it out and ask yourself why you stuck it there in the first place?



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 10:49 PM
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Wow, just wow.... can you say homophobe? In my view everyone, no matter what everyone is equal. I thought we learned this in the civil rights movement. I've had gay friends and they're not trying to make everyone else gay. They just want to be accepted and not be discriminated against.



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 10:57 PM
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Originally posted by spacegod
Odd that people feel they have to agree or disagree about homosexuality.
Unless you're in the bedroom with me, my sexuality doesn't require your opinion at all.
And people being out of control because it's "in their genes" is utter nonsense:
We'd all love to get into each others' jeans!
But most of us, straight or gay, do control ourselves.

edit on 19-12-2010 by spacegod because: to clarify that the toasters new gays don't get are free.


The problem here, though, is not people's concern about the sexual act between homosexuals (actually, for a lot of intellectually-stagnant people, it probably is). It's more about the fair and consistent application of rights to citizens and the subset of that issue: diminutive social standing that negatively affects some people's quality of life because of the ignorance of misguided people who believe they possess power over these individuals and do not wish to give it up.

For example, most people don't care what other people eat for dinner each night. Say you're big-time fond of chicken, then chicken-eaters are denied rights and humanity. Even though I'm not that interested in your fondness for chicken, I have a problem with you not having the same rights as my beef-loving self. #1 - it's not right, it's wrong; #2 - what happens when chicken-eaters get a pass and beef-lovers get put under the microscope?

One of the easier lessons in life to learn, in my opinion, is to help the wronged. This is an easy lesson because it can apply to so many different aspects of life and almost everyone in some area of their life, at some point, is wronged and needs and/or can benefit from compassion and humanity. It's somewhat telling when an adult trumpets that they have not learned this lesson and, on the contrary, fights against its spirit with an obsession that goes beyond bordering on mania.



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 11:08 PM
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It seems unclear whether you or this thread are the more prepostorous...
You do realise that 98 % of pedophiles are heterosevual right?



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