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The occultist Illuminati purpose behind the gay agenda in the USA.

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posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 02:34 PM
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I don't see how there could be an agenda to turn people straight. I think it's obvious that women and men are meant to have sex to bring new life. Natural balance. Yin and Yang if you will.



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 02:38 PM
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You do realize Hitler actually promoted and supported gays. Yes he sent some to the death camps. But only the feminine ones. He believed and had people in his administration that being gay brought you closer to god. Research Hitler and his support of being gay and don't dismiss it just because he did send some gays to the death camps.



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 02:53 PM
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It is very possible to brainwash someone sexually. Research Project Monarch Butterfly if you are unaware of this. I am not saying there aren't naturally gay people, however allot of gay people have been programmed to be so just like those victims of Monarch Butterfly. It is possible and it is going on.



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 04:21 PM
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My friend, I'm sorry to tell you, but your entire argument is based upon psychology. Your comments on "infra sex" might strike a cord with people because those behaviors are often thought of as "forbidden". But let me ask you this, if this world were an entirely gay-tolerant world, with social norms that hold gays and straights as equal, there would be no way you would ever write something like that because psychologically for people (at least as a consensus) would be that being gay isn't wrong.

You use the same techniques a lot of anti-gays use, and other people that promote other conspiracy theories. But like a lot of them yours can be reduced to psychological principles.



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 04:21 PM
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By the way, my dad is gay (not that it's really anyone's business) and he's too busy running a business, employing workers, supporting the economy/social programs by paying slightly more than 50% of his annual income to taxes and being involved in civic duties. I'm positive he has absolutely no time to worry about some "gay agenda" or "kundalini" ridiculousness.



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by InfowarriorCarson
reply to post by SkurkNilsen
 


You do realize Hitler actually promoted and supported gays. Yes he sent some to the death camps. But only the feminine ones. He believed and had people in his administration that being gay brought you closer to god. Research Hitler and his support of being gay and don't dismiss it just because he did send some gays to the death camps.


That really doesn't matter does it?
I mean seriously, get a grip on reality.

There is no agenda to brainwash people into having anal sex, come on guys, I know it's a conspiracy forum, but let's keep it within the realms of possibility shall we?
The OP is pure insanity, nothing else.



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 06:45 PM
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Hitler's gay allies? Excuse me?
Please, look the name Ernst Rohm and the famed 'Night of the long knives.'

Your entire point....is riddled with inaccuracies.

As for some of the other individual's comments, I mean really guys, brainwashing? Ya know, I like that word. Especially if you apply it to the NATURAL PROCESS OF BEING RAISED BY YOUR SOCIO-CULTURAL-ECONOMIC background.

So all the individuals on this board whom harbor a hardly rational bigotry towards gays, I contend there is no wrong, no less good, no other than equal....

Now if I am entirely missing the point here, and this whole post is about this supposed new world order using gay men and women finally having equal rights as some duplicitous way of lowering the population of the world....hah...well...than I should reiterate those few words a little bit back in this paragraph...

GAY MEN AND WOMEN FINALLY HAVING CIVIL RIGHTS (somehow then equals) =

Your big scary evil invisible monster men of business and politics who somehow...connect these civil rights with...hurting the rest of the world..de populating...because they are less hated for banging eachother?

Written like that..doesnt your point sound ....stupid?



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 07:05 PM
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The agenda has little to do with encouraging certain types of sexual behaviour. It is more to do with "normalising" the idea that two men - or two women - having a romantic relationship is normal and healthy. Many people around the world - not all religious - feel this is not good for society and resembles a destructive form of behaviour.

At the end of the day the person you are is far more important than your sexual orientation - it's a shame many people who preach their dislike of those that are different forget this.



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 07:07 PM
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Well said comrade.

I applaud your sense of things. I only hope the others read your post.

But as for those that believe it is destructive..time will open their eyes. As it did for the black men and women in this country, it will be for the gay men and women.
edit on 23-12-2010 by foxlogan2 because: Needed Revision..



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 07:12 PM
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Yeah....
Cause telling people to respect eachother is the "gay-pedo" agenda is it?
This whole thread makes me

When the OP put the words gay and pedo, together it was evident that he is a hatefull sorry individual with no compassion.
Does he have any idea how many gay people take their own lives every year thanks to people like himself?

Sickening.



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 07:14 PM
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Also it is normal and healthy.

What's not normal and healthy about it?



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 11:50 PM
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There is no point in me explaining why I believe it is not normal or healthy to be in a romantic same-sex relationship because it is one of those issues where discussing it openly and honestly will result in people feeling offended and insulted

And I agree it was wrong for the words "Gay" and "Paedophile" to be linked together like that. There is no correlation between paedophilia and homosexuality - they are merely grouped together to demonise gay people which is not only wrong but also intellectually dishonest.

I do not comment in these kinds of threads to spread hatred or intolerence. I simply feel after doing the research that there is an agenda of sorts going on and people should be aware of stuff going on behind the scenes that you do not get to see in the MSM.
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posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by lordtyp0
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Actually.. No.

You see every year the number of people professing belief in death cults drops a bit. Every year support for equality raises. This most recent year more than 50% polled showed full support of gay marriage. The majority of people under 25 support equal rights as well.

You see, more people are being born, and the hate mongers are just getting older.

It's a matter of time before high schoolers don't get beaten every day and then resort to suicide after being laughed at or that their complaining is "gay". You would be surprised how many people you know are actually gay, but since you are who you are-you will never actually know them. Doesn't seem like it would be their loss though.

What a nasty post from a nasty person... Your spiteful sneer about the 'death cult', your silly assumption that only Christians blench at the idea of being drenched in gay propaganda and your desperate wish that gays actually are more than 1% of the population, show that to quote "you are who you are"! Whatever that means...
Vicky
Disclaimer - I am a Christian, but I have been squicked by homosexuality from as far back as I can remember - long before I became a Christian (and anticipating your next remark, no, I didn't grow up in a Christian home! I had atheist and agnostic parents.



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 12:58 AM
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Originally posted by DangerMonkey

I can honestly say that of all the groups of people out there who I feel the need to be threatened by or wary of, gay people are probably damn near dead last on that list.


I have the opposite view from what you do... I feel as a woman, very threatened by and wary of homosexual men, one of whom comprehensively wrecked my relationship with a man and threatened my livelihood and safety when I didn't want to voluntarily hand over my boyfriend to him!
I think it's very sad that many feminists think homosexual men are their allies, when they are really not!
Vicky



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 01:09 AM
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So,, Just seeing if I understand this right based on what you have said: You were dating a gay man, who then wanted to leave you for various reasons-I suspect chief amongst them is he was... Gay-you then stalked them and was threatened with a restraining order or similar, but its not that the love interest was gay it's someone elses fault... Obviously, you feel threatened by teh gayz..

Enjoy your death cult.

Signed,
Nasty Person.



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 02:16 AM
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I do not really feel the need to go into the difference between a homosexual/ gay person and a pedophile, as I believe the subject was adequatey explained that the two are completely separate. I believe to some extent children are more and more commonly sexualized in society , via media and the fashion industry(shopping for appropriate clothes for girls especially) So the case for their being an agenda to promote pedophilia holds some weight.
There is no gay agenda, unless you are considering the "agenda" a civil rights movement. Pressing on however, so many people make the case against homosexuality based on religious reasons or the fact that it's not natural .
Religion is simply a set of beliefs and like opinions , there are hundreds of them and personally someone who told me they thought gays were wrong because the flying spaghetti monster told them so, would have just as much scientific credibility as the next person with their set of holy instructions. So lets take a look at the fact of nature for a minute.
First there is the biological evidence that many (not all ) are born that way. Being gay used to be considered a mental illness , until this biological evidence was discovered and the fact that being gay does not fit the model of a psychiatric disease. Those who want to argue" that criminal or psychological diseases are biologically driven so maybe we should tolerate that behavior", has some serious flaws and is a fallacious argument to begin with. Combining a socially unpopular practice with criminal behavior that hurts victims is a downward spiral on the road to Darwinist thinking , and that's extremely ugly water to tread.
Next you have the not natural , theory . What exactly is not natural? Because someone is having sex not to breed? It's a very self defeating argument. because anyone who has sex with a rubber, or just for fun is creating a crime. Let's take anatomy as another example, specifically female anatomy. According to evolutionists, it's sole purpose is for fun. Now, I don't know the rules on how graphic I can get here , but do some basic research on the perpetual myths of female orgasm and anatomy. Unless one is a staunch believer in Freud's crackpot ideas about female orgasm www.uic.edu...
and the idea about sexual pleasure being natural between a man and women , I would say it could be said that it is natural for 60% of unsatisfied females to have a VERY natural relationship with a battery operated device. On the other hand, many religions are quite adamant against many forms of sexual pleasure and therefore many could say that female pleasure is just not what god intended at all.
I honestly don't believe that Ive ever heard one rational argument against homosexuality other then someones personal distaste for it , and in that case go ahead and have your opinion , but don't make everyone else out to be the bad guy.
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posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 02:28 AM
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Originally posted by Dark Ghost
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The agenda has little to do with encouraging certain types of sexual behaviour. It is more to do with "normalising" the idea that two men - or two women - having a romantic relationship is normal and healthy. Many people around the world - not all religious - feel this is not good for society and resembles a destructive form of behaviour.


What about individuals why can't they do what is normal for them. There are very few people on ATS that are against freedom except when it comes to gays or minorities. Then all hell breaks loose and I find the sheer hypocrisy stunning.

First you get rid of the gays and then who is next. Left handed people????? Why must anyone be so tyranised by the majority? Perhaps occultists should also be tyranised because the majority consists of hymn mumbling boobs? FYI a Boob = idiot

Yours is a rather weak argument.
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posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 02:56 AM
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I do not want to put anyone off their cornflakes but if anyone thinks that gays have a majority on dubious sexual practices then perhaps you need to check out a few more heterosexual porn sites or cross the pond for a Rugby club drink up.

Yes the unspeakable vessel seems to be used by both sides of the sexual divide.
edit on 24-12-2010 by tiger5 because: Para +typo



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 03:23 AM
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It's not hypocrisy. Supporting one form of freedom does not mean you support every type of freedom that can be thought of. It's not a Black or White issue and you know that. Do you support the right for a Prisoner to choose whether they want to stay on prison grounds or mingle with the general population? There are boundaries set for a reason. These boundaries are not concrete - neither should they be. But if you don't have lines drawn in the sand then what is to stop us from taking part in behaviour that is bad and destructive for all of humanity? E.g. Legalising vandalism?

Who said anything about "getting rid of the gays"? Just because you are opposed to something does NOT mean you hate and want to eradicate it. When I go to the supermarket and hear kids crying the whole time I am there, I always think "wouldn't it be great if children under 5 were banned from supermarkets?" But I do not hate or want to cause harm to those kids just because they annoy me.

Why should the needs of a minority stifle the rights and wishes of the majority?



posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 03:47 AM
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OP's a moron.

Kill yourself before you commit a hate crime due to your utter and complete stupidity/insanity and it'll be the single greatest thing you do with your wasted life.



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