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Originally posted by Evanescence
Originally posted by SeaWind
2.) "Is there an 'agenda' to raise the gay or homosexual lifestyle to a more accepted status, with perhaps nefarious purposes as a motive?"
SW: Yes, there has been a definite move to "sell" homosexuality to the people in the West. It's been going on for decades, but it's becoming more blatant. Children are now being indoctrinated in elementary school. You can see from the majority of responses on this thread the "selling" has been very effective. Homosexuality is now perceived as "kewl" by the majority. Mission Accomplished.
Umm...let's change this to the 1960s and replace "homosexuality" with "being black." Yeah, ignorant point indeed. I am sorry that you are not sold on civil rights.
Originally posted by SeaWind
Aids to their control of the masses is the dumbing down of education, the destruction of the family and traditional values. There is also a move in the West to legalize ALL currrently Illegal Drugs -- heroin, crack coc aine, you name it. Creating masses of addicts who must get their State-controlled fix, is a brilliant move by TPTB. Talk about herds of people that can be easily controlled. It's a "kewl" idea among the young. California should be the first state to go. It's the bellwether (the sheep wearing the bell that all the other sheep follow) state.
There are no such efforts underway and if there were, then we'd actually be a free society that allows for people to do what they want with their bodies. But there isn't. Some have moved to legalize marijuana, well, because it is practically innocuous, helpful to a variety of illnesses, and a serious money maker that also would cut off the cartel's major drug market. But other illegal drugs? Nope. People are too moralistically up themselves to allow their government to do something like that. Provide some proof before you spew nonsense.
Talk about a hyperbole of epic proportions. California voters even denied such a logical measure as the legalization of marijuana in the state, so I don't know what you are going on about at all.
As for all your occult beliefs, well this might be a surprise, but Thelema (and Crowley's O.T.O.) is not the only magickal paradigm that exists and linking everything to Crowley, though he accomplished much in the advance of Western occultism, is a tad much.edit on 21-12-2010 by Evanescence because: (no reason given)
Tiger5, I'm not sure who you're addressing, but since Macbeth isn't here....
1.) "Wow now someone finds a 13th level in the OTO well Crowley must be spining in his grave. The OTO only has an 11 degree initiatory system."
SW: First of all, I don't know where Macbeth got the story about Crowley and the 13th Degree. There are MANY stories about Crowley floating around
Originally posted by stealthc
reply to post by Char-Lee
And back to reality, your family unit as you describe it barely exists anymore. Most parents are single. lots don't even know who daddy is (or care, at least they get cheap socialized housing and bumped to the front of the list, plus welfare so they can sit at home and smoke pot and drink beer all day and do the occasional cash job for a little extra on the side).
For any child to have two parents is a huge step up from the norm. If those two are in love with each other, even better. Where does your definition of balance come from? What is it a girl can teach their kid that a really effiminate father couldn't teach? LOL. In nature, you take what you can get if it helps; simple as that. Does it help children to say that all gay couples are bad because they don't provide this fictitious and unproven "balance" which you claim exists?
reply to post by jamiejames
And please, dont give me that crap about homosexuals having a 'family' because a homosexual couple cant REPRODUCE! Sure, you can adopt....but they CAN NOT REPRODUCE....like we were DESIGNED to do.
Originally posted by ThinkingCap
Animals are also bisexual. There is no conspiracy there. The Hagakure, bible of the samurai, has a caption in it explaining when it is appropriate to make love to your comrade. Meaning homosexuality has always existed. Pedopheliacs love the idea of young boys becoming permiscuous, that is what the real issue is. Whether that turns them into a homosexual or not does not make a difference on their suffering.
People are always using animals as an example of what humans should be, I don't get it, Dogs eat poop too.