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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Originally posted by SKinLaB
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Its posts like this that make me ashamed that someone like you spews stuff out like this that represent this Country. I do not see the necessity for this. You are not helping our case bro. You are basically confirming why they look at us like ignorant arrogant pricks. Thanks man....
You are on your own....
Did you even bother to read my entire thread?... It isn't that long... and yes there is a need to show people that those who are in power will not stop only at taking away our right to bear arms. Sooner or later they will ban the right to free speech, heck I even gave a link, which member prof.emeritus gave in another thread, that shows the chief of police in London is mulling over banning the right to peacefully protest in London...
I even wrote that I was being sarcastic, and didn't really mean what I wrote, but that in the same way that the left is making claims on the reasons why firearms should be banned, you can use the same reasons for banning freedom of speech, or the right to peacefully protest, and a whole miriad of other rights...
BTW, those people that see Americans "like ignorant, arrogant, pricks" are only looking in their mirror and describing themselves.
Originally posted by Kulkulkan
Guns have a detrimental effect on society as a whole.
Originally posted by Kulkulkan
I personally can think of several instances where I would have not thought twice about murdering the object of my frustrations had I access to a firearm.
Originally posted by Kulkulkan
Our lives are filled with enough stress already and to add firearms into that is akin to matches and gasoline.
Originally posted by Kulkulkan
on a side note, I've always thought that if we were allowed to carry swords, a weapon not easily concealed would be an exceptional deterent to physical abuse and crime in general.
Originally posted by Kulkulkan
Ever been hit by the flat of a sword? Very unpleasant and mostly a non-lethal pause for thought.
Originally posted by Kulkulkan
As for freedom of speach, It is the sign of an advanced society. I'm sure the philosophers and scientists that have died at the hands of the ignorant only in the name of the truth can attest to that.
Originally posted by Kulkulkan
Theocracy is an affront to intellect and an insult to civilization.edit on 19-12-2010 by Kulkulkan because: incomplete thought
Originally posted by atlasastro
Maybe you should start doing some research. Only 5% of Australians have Guns.
Originally posted by atlasastro
Everyone is entitled to freedom of speech and people will defend this right. The issues are different.
Originally posted by atlasastro
We have tougher gun laws though, that is the real difference.
So, can you point out how our freedom of speech has been reduced by the introduction of tougher gun laws in the 1990's and 2000's.
Originally posted by atlasastro
Also, freedom of speech has been ammended, as it is in the USA. This restricts things like Hate Speech, Child pornography etc.
Originally posted by atlasastro
So restriction on both guns and freedom of speech do not necessarily equate to an eradication.
U.S. Constitution - Amendment 2
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Amendment 2 - Right to Bear Arms
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Originally posted by atlasastro
People like you make me laugh though, EU. All this talk about TPTB and Guns etc. taking this and that.
You and the USA in general have sat on your asses and fiddled with your guns, spouting this and that about the PTB, whilst they have torn the constitution assunder and plunder the wealth of your nation leaving you all in a debt that you are now paying, that your congress which was inundated with request from the public to turn down totally ignored.
Originally posted by atlasastro
But hey, you still got your guns to fight 'em with.
Originally posted by atlasastro
So dude, as an Australian who also has a European Union passport and who has lived and travelled in both the USA and Europe, you can keep your guns.
And don't equate my Freedom of Speech with Your Guns.
"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest." -- Mahatma Gandhi (An Autobiography OR The story of my experiments with truth, by M.K. Gandhi, p.238)
Originally posted by SKinLaB
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My biggest issue with this is your reaction to the individuals that disagree with you.
Originally posted by SKinLaB
If you want to debate then debate.
Originally posted by SKinLaB
Dont criticize and put people down because they dont agree with your points.
Originally posted by SKinLaB
Also bringing things up about a Countries past.
Originally posted by SKinLaB
It is your right to express your thoughts but you cannot "force" others to see it your way..
Originally posted by SKinLaB
You brought a one leg man to a ass kicking contest. We have enough of our own skeletons to deal with. It only shows more evidence on how we worry about someone else's issues instead of our own at home..