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Evidence no plane crashed & buried in Shanksville; piles of dirt, but no piles of plane debris

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posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 01:59 PM
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Originally posted by Myendica
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Uh.. that picture of bones couldnt possibly be the passengers on the plane. When recovering debris from a fresh plane crash, the bones would still have flesh on them. So those bones are from someone, or something who has been dead quite a while I'd say.


Plus, Im sure they would put them in a crate and not package them up individually.




posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 02:03 PM
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So what are your qualifications ?

Are you a doctor? Pathologist?

Do you have experience in investigating accidents....?



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 02:06 PM
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reply to post by thedman
 

Forget the animal bones for a second, where's the tons and tons of debris that was supposed dug out of the ground?



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by empireoflizards
 


Again, the "debris field" extent was an indication of the incredible impact forces, and the way that some material will eject, under those forces, in many unpredictable ways.

Additionally....MUCH of this "debris" was very lightweight material....the kind of stuff that could easily have been lofted from the concussion of the exploding fireball, and then carried for some distance on the winds.



Debris found 8 miles away?
You really don't find anything fishy about this story? Really?



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 02:13 PM
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reply to post by ATH911
 


The plane did not strike "nose first" - it was flipped on back at angle of 40 deg.

The forward 1/3 found in woods comes from Wallace Miller, Somerset County Coroner, responsible for
recovering and identifing the remains.

From photos can see debris scattered in woods, in direction of travel



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by thedman
reply to post by ATH911
 


The plane did not strike "nose first" - it was flipped on back at angle of 40 deg.

The forward 1/3 found in woods comes from Wallace Miller, Somerset County Coroner, responsible for
recovering and identifing the remains.

From photos can see debris scattered in woods, in direction of travel

Which part of it hit first to make the cockpit section break off and flying into the woods while the rest of the plane continued its downward passage through the "soft" soil, burying deep into the ground???



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by DIDtm
Debris found 8 miles away?
You really don't find anything fishy about this story? Really?


Have you researched what debris were found 8 miles away? If you did, your three questions above would not be necessary.



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 02:34 PM
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Got something else.......odds and coincidence!



So who updated the flight path to one with destination New York rather than Los Angeles?
Here is a possible candidate: Pete Zalewski. What is extremely interesting about this
fellow is that he as a flight controller handled 3 (three) hijacked airliners in his
life that all crashed: AA11, AA175 and Egypt Air 990.
Quite a coincidence!


What are the odds on that one.....


And if i say 'odds'...i have another one, it's called 'coincidence'.

# There is a very, very tiny chance, like 1 in 64 billion, that someone else got the same fingerprint!
# The chance that two people carrying the same DNA is 1 in 10 billion. There are not even 7 billion people on earth, so not everybody does have a look a like.


Question; What are the odds that you will find youre own look a like.... i never did see myself in 50 years!
The odds of America should be the a same % as elsewhere....in the world.
Question; What are the odds that you will find under the victims look a likes?
For instance, firefighters, some policeofficers, Cantor Fitzgerald employees etcetcetc
What are the odds on that ones.....well, suprisingly it only exists in America.... i guess!



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 02:43 PM
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Originally posted by FemaF4Fotoshop


Yes I agree, the odds are phenomenal. I've seen this piece of info before. If you consider all the 'coincidences' that had to occur for 9/11 to happen, the overall odds are soooooo astronomical that it makes it statistically pretty much impossible!
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posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 02:45 PM
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I've done my own personal research into NTSB reports of crashes. Crashes that have direct ground impact as reported on flt 93 seem to have debris fields restricted to 300 meters or less. Other types such as mid-air break-up leave debris over a couple miles. I'm just going by documented facts.



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 02:51 PM
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Skeptics, almost nine pages already and still no evidence tons and tons of plane debris was dug out of that Shanksville field.

Just sayin.


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posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 03:09 PM
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Got more.............Raytheon vs Odds and coincidence.

Flight 11, Peter Gay:
He was Raytheon's Vice President of Operations for Electronic Systems and had been on
special assignment to a company office in El Segundo, California.
CONFIRMED.

Flight 11, Kenneth Waldie:
Hewas a senior quality control engineer for Raytheon's electronic systems.
This division is one of two divisions making the Global Hawk.
CONFIRMED.

Flight 11, David Kovalcin:
He was a senior mechanical engineer for Raytheon's electronic systems.
CONFIRMED.

Flight 77, Charles S. Falkenberg:
He worked on "EOS Webster" a mapping system which provides Landsat Images, which are
part of the mapping system for the Global Hawk technology.
CONFIRMED.

Flight 77, Stanley Hall:
He was director of program management for Raytheon Electronics Warfare.
One Raytheon colleague calls him "our dean of electronic warfare.
CONFIRMED.

Wat are the odds that they were on the flights.......all are confirmed by me, and all 'checked' in!!!

And the pore HOMER story....


Flight 175, Herbert Homer:
He was a corporate executive working with the Department of Defense. And for some very strange
reasons he was listed for several days as having died in the while working in the Pentagon.
CONFIRMED.


We all know what Raytheon did.....Global hawk, remote controlled planes and some other stuff.

Now Homer doesn't die at the Pentagon....but with 175 hitting the WTC 2 a few floors lower as where
he worked!






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posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 03:13 PM
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This plane was shot down by the Happy Hooligans out of North Dakota. Alex Jones talked to the pilots who shot it down with Aim 9 Sidewinders. The story they told you on TV was just another lie to make people feel good. This plane was probably the one they were going to remote control into WTC 7 but since it was shot down, they just decided to blow the building up anyway the charges already set up.

Dimitri Khalezov says WTC 7 was taken down by nuclear demolition and shows the evidence for that in these videos also.

www.project.nsearch.com...

You can tell he's right because he shows the building next to Building 7 and it shows a circular cut out of a corner of the building which could only be done by a nuclear demolition of Bldg 7. The bombs were placed under the foundations of WTC 7 and the twin towers in those tunnels. CDI got the patent for this and this was announced to the Russians in the 70's. All those that come on this thread and say this is impossible are shills because it was in the original demolition plan and CDI got a patent on it. Watch al the videos and it will make sense. Steel can ONLY be turned to dust with a nuclear demolition compression wave. No other explosives will turn steel to dust! End of story.



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 03:33 PM
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Have you looked at PSA 1771? Here's a thread, about two years old, now...discusses it:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

AND, another source (may already be included in above thread):


Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 1771 was a commercial flight that crashed in San Luis Obispo County, California, on December 7, 1987.
...[skip]... Like Flight 93, PSA 1771 crashed at high speed after a steep dive leaving an impact crater in the ground and the plane disintegrated in small pieces scattering light weight debris (including vital clues to the cause of the crash) up to eight miles from the crash site. First responder Detective Bill Wammock of the San Luis Obispo County Sheriff’s Office from the video: “Nothing that resembled an airliner… we went on for hours, before we heard the news reports of a missing airliner, believing that we were dealing with a small airplane full of newspapers that had crashed. We saw no pieces of the aircraft that were larger than, maybe, a human hand. It did not look like a passenger aircraft.”


www.bestflightsimulation.com...

Oh, and the video (one of them). THIS one has that fool Alex Jones' voice, as he pontificates about United 93...fool and tool that he is...ignorant beyond all understanding....as the FACTS of PSA 1771 show:


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posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 03:35 PM
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reply to post by ATH911
 
listen.. when will people cop TF on. the three buildings on 911 were brought down by 3 underground
thermonuclear explosions. all other evidence indicating plane hi-jackings and subsequents is fabricated.
simple as. people need to wake TF up. PLEASE. it looks like time is short.



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 03:38 PM
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So you can't bring a plane down from the loss of cabin pressure or engine failure? Sure you can. If it doesn't have part of a wing or vertical stabilizer it's not going to fly very well. How can you tell the flight control from an airplane nose diving to the earth?



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 03:51 PM
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Towards the end of that video it looked as though the pilot was trying to overcompensate for something. Maybe a damaged wing? It's as though someone is fighting to keep the plane afloat. If these terrorist took any form of flight training I doubt they would be overcompensating like shown.

If the plane was damaged from another source, could be a missile or could be ammunition, it could have easily damaged a wing or vertical stabilizer from working properly and caused this same effect.



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 03:52 PM
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They needed Shanksville Pa. to fit their logo they are making on the map of the usa.

www.youtube.com...

Illuminati like hiding their signiture in plan site. Here's another one.

www.youtube.com...



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 03:55 PM
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Throwing the BS flag. Alex Jones never once talked to the "Happy Hooligans" pilots that shot down Flight 93. He talked to a retired (supposed) Colonel, who had a friend tell him that another friend told him the Hooligans shot the plane down.



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 03:59 PM
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The data recorders would record the loss of cabin pressure, they would record the loss of an engine, they would record the position of the flight controls, they would record numerous other items that would show that the plane had been hit by missiles/gunfire. Flight 93's recorders, recorded none of that. What Flight 93's recorders did record was that Flight 93 was intact and in a inverted dive until it hit the ground.




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