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Also note jet fuel would act very differently when impacting a mountain, then a bunch of soft dirt with grass on top. Why did the grass around Shanksvill not set alight from the plane exploding into all these millions of pieces like you claim it did?
The ensuing firestorm lasted five or 10 minutes and reached several hundred yards into the sky, said Joe Wilt, 63, who also lives a quarter-mile from the crash site. "Jetliner Was Diverted Toward Washington Before Crash in Pa." The Washington Post September 12, 2001
Charles Sturtz, 53, who lives just over the hillside from the crash site, said a fireball 200 feet high shot up over the hill. He got to the crash scene even before the firefighters. Source
Faye Hahn, an EMT, responded to the first reports of the crash. She says: "Several trees were burned badly and there were papers everywhere.
Firefighter Mike Sube: "We made our way to a small pond. That's where I observed the largest piece of wreckage that I saw, a portion of the landing gear and fuselage. One of the tires was still intact with the bracket, and probably about three to five windows of the fuselage were actually in one piece lying there. ...There were enough fires that our brush truck was down there numerous times. ...I saw small pieces of human remains and occasionally some larger pieces. That was disturbing, but what was most disturbing was seeing personal effects."
While enroute to the scene, there was a concern for the potential of large numbers of casualties. Chief Shaffer requested additional ambulances and EMS units dispatched to the scene. Two ambulances from outside the county were also alerted but were placed in service while responding. Upon arrival, firefighters found small pieces of the plane, spot fires, and a large quantity of fuel scattered across a wide debris field. A quick survey of the scene found no survivors. Additional resources were requested from County Control, which included additional suppression companies and the Somerset Fire Company’s hazardous materials team. Federal authorities, including the FBI and NTSB, arrived relatively quickly to secure the site and begin the evidence collection and body recovery process.
Originally posted by dillweed
reply to post by hooper
You guys have been throwing in one left handed reliever after another for months, we finally get a new guy with some cred, and you shoot him down because he mis-spells hangar? More and more people with new information are going to show up, and I know it scares the hell outta' you guys, because all you have is the bullshot story that you've pledged to uphold. You guys are on thin ice and the sun's breaking thru the clouds.
Lets just say that even when a secure channel is used and a secure frequency is used that doesn't mean it is secure.
Flight 93 impacted in one piece. As for fire not burning grass - must have missed the part that high speed impacts cause the fuel to aersolize or disperse in mist. Guess what direction the cloud goes? It goes upward from the force of impact.
Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
And by the way, what is "truther logic"? Is it generalizing and painting everyone who does not share your myopic world view with the same brush because you do not have the intelligence, nor the social skills to treat each person as an individual? Nice to see that name calling and idiotic school yard bullying tactics are alive and well on a site which allegedly preaches manners and decorum.