posted on Jul, 6 2004 @ 12:15 AM
How could Israel possibly run America? Seriously. A nation that small and requiring that much support, controlling America?
I think we're playing dumb- Israel is a convenient patsy. If Israel hadn't embarrassed Nasser and his supporters, pan arabism very well may have
achieved its goals, and we'd be facing a nuclear-armed Arab power controlling most of the world's oil. Israel bombed Saddam's reactor when nobody
else found it acceptable. Israel maintains a military presence in the middle East that America could never justify.
The Egyptians and Syrians know that they are Israel's personal property whenever Israel says so, and it's been proven 4 or 5 times now. (EDIT: this
is beneficial to America, which is frequently at odds with arab and islamic nations and can't afford to keep them in check alone).
America may very well control Israel. Why do we care if the settlements are there? The fact that we pay lip service against the settlements buys us
some much needed positive attention while we're keeping a huge force in Iraq and talking tough to Iran.
That being said, there is a lot of pro-Israeli feeling in the typical Christian yokel, especially if they aren't too well versed in world politics.
In boot camp I remember a discussion among about a dozen recruits (our of a pool of only 70) where the general consensus was that if the UN ever took
action agianst Israel, those Marines would go to serve as mercinaries if America failed to defend Israel. Kinda scarry with 12 of 70 US Marines in a
random sample would leave to serve another nation.
As for devine favor...
1. The current Israeli government is actually secular. There has not been a religious ruler in Israel at any point since 1948, according to my
2. The Old Testament is pretty clear that Israel is never to bargain with, live with, make peace with, nor surrender to the canaanites from whom the
palestinians are descended. So this Israel isn't keeping the covenant anyway.
3. These Israelis are in large part Ukranian Khazar converts, not true hebrews, as far as blood is concerned.
4. The usefulness of Israel was in large part over when Christ came, as far as the Christian perspective on the conflict is concerned.
5. Israel doesn't really exist until the apocalypse comes. Israel is restored, rebuilds the temple, is attacked from the East (the euphrates dries up
to make way for the armies of the east to do battle with the Lord) and then blood runs to the height of a horse's bridle on the plain of Meggido.
Therefore, this isn't really God's Israel.
6. The parable of the fig tree is often taken to represent a false Israel, (Israel is symbolized by an olive tree). Therefore one could argue that a
false israel is prophecied for Christianity.
From a secular point of view, that doesn't matter of course, because the definition of nations and citizenship by racial and religious standards is
archaic and generally frowned upon. It's still in practice for most of the world, but we all know it's wrong. The existence of Israel is not the
issue here. The mutual freedom of Jews and Palestinians is, and in that case the nation really makes little difference. If you follow this to its
conclusion, nations in general are meaningless, which i do believe. The problem is that I'm getting a little utopian... it's a nice idea but the
world isn't ready for it.
So, we have an impasse, and this means war. So... why not let them all kill eachother and see who wants it most? Maybe they'll get so sick of it that
they'll evolve and be ready to coexist.
[edit on 6-7-2004 by The Vagabond]