Video: POLICE STATE - TSA, Homeland Security & Tampa Police Set Up Nazi Checkpoints At Bus Stations

reply to post by c0ldPhr34k
papers pleas!, were are you going? do you have mark? are you party member? just a moment, i do not like the "feel" i am getting from you, step over here and let me search you!
Is this what you want?? just wondering.

reply to post by bekod


Maybe some people don't understand.
In this day in age and with the actual amount of crimes being committed...
How does one not expect these things to take place?
This isn't the same time frame as years gone by.
America has changed.
It's no longer, happy-go-lucky days.

Look around.
There is crime everywhere.

Inside and out.
It will not be stopped.

Now being searched without reasonable cause...
That's a violation of our own 4th Amendment
So there's where the problem lies.




(Just like how the Patriot Act is clearly illegal)

Definition of "search"

In Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347 (1967), the Supreme Court ruled that a search occurs only when 1) a person expects privacy in the thing searched and 2) society believes that expectation is reasonable.

In Katz, the Supreme Court ruled that a search had occurred when the government wiretapped a telephone booth.[20] The Court's reasoning was that 1) the defendant expected that his phonebooth conversation would not be broadcast to the wider world and 2) society believes that expectation is reasonable.

This is a threshold question in Fourth Amendment jurisprudence, since the Fourth Amendment only protects against unreasonable searches and seizures. If no search or seizure has occurred, the court ends its analysis. This relates to the current issue with the new airport security systems.

Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution

reply to post by havok

you just said it 4th amendment need's to go, and that is the DHS TSA job, we are all "threats"till proven otherwise.

reply to post by bekod


I wouldn't say it needs to go.
More like it needs to be enforced.
By the People.

reply to post by havok
so you would be a enemy of the state and not a sheepole? so what is your thoughts as how we can protect save our rights?

reply to post by havok

true but in the name of "security " the 4th is tossed away. how do we get it back and maintain safety security? were we are all threats, to our selves and others.

Originally posted by bekod
reply to post by havok

 

so you would be a enemy of the state and not a sheepole? so what is your thoughts as how we can protect save our rights?

Check out my threads.

My thoughts are simple.
We let them rule us with a green hand.
You have to pay to live 'freely', in their eyes.
The people have more power in their workforce than any ruler and his imaginary 'money'...
Most of us are too distracted to care.
It's like there needs to be a spark.
And it's just not there yet.

Hate to say it, but until this country stops the machine that 'elites' built, things won't happen.
That is a difficult task in itself.

We are programmed to LOVE money.
Money comes first, to everyone.
Think about it.

reply to post by havok
how does it fell not to have the wool over your eyes?

to you for not falling for the NWO!!! nor the USA corp greed or is it creed, i shall spend spend spend til it hurts hurts hurts nor shall i wine wine wine or is that whine when i dine, when DHS TSA CIA NSA knows what i have done, did and said this day, for i know they will be asking me join join join, for they have done there part in making me safe from my self, and the pills pills pills i take for all my aches and pains, even though they make me bleed, will some day shut down my kidneys, i on this do here by swear this is the oath, to save my a$$ from the DHS TSA, ol' la

reply to post by bekod


I have to remind myself that we wrestle not against flesh and blood. And I'm glad we don't because if we did we wouldnt stand a chance. Let's pray to our father that the next battle will be between good and evil and that it would take place in our spiritual bodies. And that all of us would be found standing under his banner. Let us all be valiant men and bring recompense upon the heads of his enemies. Maybe that will be the 4th density karma that HH spoke of.

reply to post by havok


Believe me bro, The only answer is divine intervention. But.......I believe that's what's going to happen. I see a lot of scriptural evidence to support that type of scenario. I'll give you one example. Matt 21:42 The stone which the builders rejected , the same has become the head of the corner. Think..... Pyramid , All Seeing Eye, Top , Corner stone. Now ask who hath been rejected by the builders of this world? This great "Pyramid" of power that they have constructed. I personally think Their big party is going to get spoiled.

Saw it coming years ago... Can only say good luck guys you need all the luck you can get now as the checkpoints and searches are just the beginning of the nightmare to come there... Sad seeing what america has turned into...

reply to post by ANNED


You have hit the nail on the head. People are only focusing on the people that are there and not on the reason. The bus has become a way for criminals to try and move around undetected. All you need is cash and your on your way to anywhere USA.

reply to post by tsurfer2000h


I'm sure we've got worse criminals riding in limos with gov plates on em.

reply to post by HarryJoy


Yes we do,but those are a little bit harder to catch. And if they are caught they get to go to the country club prison for daily rounds of golf and minimum security. Pays to be a rich governmental criminal.

no wonder alot of people said the people's republic of china is more freerer than the United Socialist States of Amerika

I really want off this planet.No joke if I had a way off planet earth I would take it. I am becoming ashamed to even to be called human. If I was to make it out there some how and I was asked want I was and where I was fromed I would be ashamed to tell them. This planet has gone mad. Some how the imates have gotten control of the asylum and it is time to leave. I can see no good coming from any of this. The problem is not enough sane people that are left see the problem yet and by the time they do it will be too late.

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You say that until it is your door they kick in for no reason. Until it is you that is being striped searched. Until it is you being the target you are all for this. Well when it is you and it will be you not matter how good you are then you will change you tune but by then it will be far too late. I just hope when that day comes you remember how you were for this. You and people like you are committing suicide and do not even know it. Now that it the real sad part of this. Just do us the favor to rememeber how you wer for this when it comes you turn.

reply to post by HarryJoy

I'm sure we've got worse criminals riding in limos with gov plates on em.

The reason the USA has so many criminals is BECAUSE the criminals riding in limos with gov plates PLANNED it that way!

Take a look at this chart.

The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world. WHY?
Note the date the rate started to sky rocket.

In a number of reports written over a few decades, CED [Committee for Economic Development] recommended that farming "resources" " that is, farmers " be reduced.... A report published in 1962 entitled "An Adaptive Program for Agriculture"[3] is even more blunt in its objectives, leading Time Magazine to remark that CED had a plan for fixing the identified problem: "The essential fact to be faced, argues CED, is that with present high levels farm productivity, more labor is involved in agriculture production that the market demands " in short, there are too may farmers. To solve that problem, CED offers a program with three main prongs."[4]

Some of the report's authors would go on to work in government to implement CED's policy recommendations. Over the next five years, the political and economic establishment ensured the reduction of "excess human resources engaged in agriculture" by two million, or by 1/3 of their previous number.

Their plan was so effective and so faithfully executed by its operatives in the US government that by 1974 the CED couldn't help but congratulate itself in another agricultural report called "A New US Farm Policy for Changing World Food Needs" for the efficiency of the tactics they employed to drive farmers from their land.

The human cost of CED's plans were exacting and enormous.

CED's plans resulted in widespread social upheaval throughout rural America, ripping apart the fabric of its society destroying its local economies. They also resulted in a massive migration to larger cities. The loss of a farm also means the loss of identity, and many farmers' lives ended in suicide.... www.opednews.com...

Think what else happen in 1970. We got the first of the red tape that now strangles all small business, OSHA and EPA.

So how does that effect Americans?

two numbers loom that are of particular importance to small business people: about 145,000 new businesses start up each year in this country, and about 137,000 businesses declare bankruptcy each year. It isn't hard to do the math; the ratio is almost one failure for each startup, and it begs the question: "How is it possible that entrepreneurship has so many casualties both in terms of money lost and lives often horribly upset?"

....Census data show there were 5.7 million firms with employees and 17.0 million without employees in 2001. Applying the sole proprietorship growth rates to the nonemployer figures and similar Department of Labor growth rates to the employer figures produces the 23.7 million figure. Small firms with less than 500 employees represent 99.7 percent of the 23.7 million businesses...

80% of new businesses fail within their first year....

...Of these failed business, only 10% of them close involuntarily due to bankruptcy and the remaining 90% close because the business was not successful, did not provide the level of income desired or was too much work for their efforts....

www.moyak.com...

And here is another little good that shows what has happened since 1970.
"In 1976 A typical American CEO earned 36 times as much as the average worker. By 2008 the average CEO pay increased to 369 times that of the average worker." timelines.ws...

The typical American CEO is not about to take a pay cut, so he is actually paid five times MORE in “buying power” compared to 1976 while the rest of us are now paid a third of what we were paid in 1976. The price of gold indicates the steady devaluation of the US dollar as it's purchasing power is diluted by the ever increasing supply of fiat money.

Date.....$ /oz gold.. Money supply total.....minimum wage.....Pay in gold......CEO in gold
1959 .......35.25............50.1 billion...............$1.00..................0.0284 oz.
1976 .....124.74 ..........$113 billion...............$2.30..................0.0184 oz............0.663.oz
2008 .....880.30..........$831 billion................$5.85.................0.0066 oz.............2.44.oz
2009 ..1,020.28........$1663 billion................$6.55.................0.0064.oz.

If you look at the price of gold, you can see how the value of the dollar has dropped and how the minimum wage no longer has the buying power it had in 1959.

This is the sneakiest way that the banksters have stolen our wealth. When people can no longer earn a living wage crime skyrockets.

AND yes it is the BANKSTERS.

New York Times: LEVERAGED BUYOUTS: AMERICAN PAYS THE PRICE January 29, 1989

....These days, corporations seem to exist for the investment bankers.... In fact, investment banks are replacing the publicly held industrial corporations as the largest and most powerful economic institutions in America.... THERE ARE SIGNS THAT A VICIOUS spiral has begun, as each corporate player seeks to improve its standard of living at the expense of another's. Corporate raiders transfer to themselves, and other shareholders, part of the income of employees by forcing the latter to agree to lower wages....

What the #. Please dont let this come to Coral Springs....
Just imagine if this crap gets into the school system...OHHHH SH***T

Originally posted by HarryJoy
Holysh*t, I think we have some plants on here. What the h*ll part of russia did some of these people grow up in?
I mean really!!!! how long do you have to think about it before you realize there is no stopping point. Yah, we could all sit here and come up with good reasons why they should be allowed to do this sh*t..... and yah they're obviously going to start it in the "bad" places so it will be more palatable to us zoned out zombies. But I could sit here and say ....you know what? I think they should do pat-downs at mall entrances because they haven't attacked a mall yet? Yah and then I could say Wal-mart aught to allow pat-downs too because alot of people are in Wal-marts and it would be a good target. As far as drugs and the other stuff goes...that's been in this country for a long time and we haven't needed the border patrol patting us on the ass to make us all feel safe. As long as we all have a beer in the fridge and money to go to McD's we're all happy and don't give a sh*t. The fact of the matter is our asses are pinned down 6ways from sunday and their just waiting to spring their fully loaded trap on us.

I hear ya man...
"D'oh... I uh... uh...uh.. don' wanna' ..blowup on da' bus.."

That's it.
we are collectively too weak and stupid or apathetic to do anything about this why should the loud ones stand upon the ramparts for the freedoms of the ignorant? Even a sheepdog has limits he'll run. Er uh hey "Joey" If you don' wanna' "blow up": cool; please tel the multi- jurisdictional task force guys to take the laser dots off my chest huh?

I think "ow my bawlz" is on the tube I've gotta go.: be well citizen (may your chains rest lightly). I'll be reducing my presence above the radar. Mowing my yard on Thurdays and signing up for my fedrat card. Hey y'all send that census guy back maybe I'll be nicer to him..

God bless the "O-man ( why I hear he's the most thoughtful 3rd term president we've ever had in the white house; has good intentions too (just wants to help us). Won hissself one of them the Nobel peace prizes too They don't don't hand those out like "kane-dy") its safer bein' ign'ant and nobody calls you crazy "ct'er" or "birfer" or "twoofer".....

Whats that ? Oh that that folded triangular blue thing with the white stars ? oh nothing just an interesting piece of history... makes a nice table cloth ya' know.

No sorry don't have nothing canned to give ya' I'm out of rations for the month. Food doesn't matter no more though: I have a tip the the task force boys is comin' by tomorrow for another search..I'm tired alone and hungry I don't think I'm gonna let 'em in tomorrow..