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5 Myth about Islam

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posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by dragonridr
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The Russians destroyed Afghanistan long before the United States got there. In fact they screwed it up so bad thats why the United States is there in the first place were trying to clean up the mess they left behind. Which i have serious doubts will ever happen .


Ohh wait, sorry, I thought you knew about the geo political history of the region, sorry for that mistake. Do you know much about the cold war?



So trying to blame the United States is just buying into extremist propaganda.Iraq will eventually be a stabilizing force in the middle east but Afghanistan is a lost cause. The Russians set them so far back i doubt theyll ever recover.Though truth be told that was the Russians intentions all along they now are zero threat to them.


What was Afghanistan like before USSR?




posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 01:03 AM
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Originally posted by oozyism
Almost 100 million people have been killed by Atheists, don't blame religion for it please.


Sources, data and valid information to accompany this assertion please.
2nd



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 01:11 AM
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hahahaha... You're clearly out of your depth here... There's simply too much information to show islam as a religion that doesn't practice a peaceful way. Saying "you're still trying" and the like just shows us all that you have no clue as to what you are talking about.

Ranting and raving about how the US has done this and that. Just admit it, people are messed up and love war. Certainly mohammed did.

I guess my point is this: You can't start a thread to convince us that myths about islam are false, and then refuse to actually show evidence when challenged.

I'll leave you with this quote. Basically showing that islam wants to take over the world. There's no argument about it. (if you want to show verses before or after, please do. But I promise you, it's not going to help)

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah"



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by oozyism

Originally posted by nivekronnoco
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Which hundred million people have been killed by which Atheists?
Documentation please?


Communists (count the deaths and murders).


1 - Communism is a sociopolitical movement that aims for a stateless and classless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production, free access to articles of consumption, the end of wage labour and private property in the means of production and real estate.

2 - Atheism, in a broad sense, is the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.[1] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[2] Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.[3] Atheism is contrasted with theism,[4] which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists.


Communism has NOTHING to do with atheism....thank you Senator McCarthy, they have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN COMMON,

We are here to DENY ignorance..arn't we??
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posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by imperium1984

Originally posted by oozyism

Originally posted by imperium1984



Ummm, here:

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"


Still trying lol..

Post couple of verses before it, and couple of verses after it hahahahaha

Let me explain what you are trying to do:

Check out this statement:

"If you are intoxicated, don't pray:

Now if you remove the first part of the above statement and just post the second part, it would be something like this:

"don't pray"

Removing the condition is absurd.

Bring us the other verses so we know the context.


Far out. You are completely blinded by this, aren't you? Why don't YOU show us how I'm wrong in this "myth" and show me the error of my ways?

Of course, you wont. Because YOU CAN'T. I'm right. You're wrong. Enjoy your fail.


Lol, read the chapter from the beginning, see how it is talking about war.

The first verse talks about "spoils of war" hahaha..

Yup, keep it all out of context.



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 01:25 AM
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Originally posted by imperium1984

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah"


Still trying lol

When is it wrong to fight againt oppression and prosecution? lol



8:39 (Asad) And fight against them until there is no more oppression and all worship is devoted to God alone. [39] And if they desist-behold, God sees all that they do; [40] -

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posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 01:29 AM
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I just realised something.

I've wasted so much of my life arguing with an internet troll. That's all you can be, no person with valid logic could say what you are saying.

Thanks very much, but you'll be getting no more food from me.

*taken this thread off my "watch" list*


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Please, don't feed the trolls.



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 01:31 AM
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Originally posted by imperium1984
I just realised something.

I've wasted so much of my life arguing with an internet troll. That's all you can be, no person with valid logic could say what you are saying.

Thanks very much, but you'll be getting no more food from me.

*taken this thread off my "watch" list*


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Please, don't feed the trolls.


It is OK to be angry because your wild fantasies regarding Islam has been proven wrong.

Keep visiting your anti-Islamic websites, and keep watching Mohammad cartoons with Turban Bombs to help you sleep at night.




posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 02:32 AM
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1.
Surah Qur'an 55:72 - "It was mentioned by Daraj Ibn Abi Hatim, that Abu al-Haytham 'Adullah Ibn Wahb narrated from Abu Sa'id al-Khudhri, who heard Muhammad saying, 'The smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode where there are eighty thousand servants and seventy-two houri, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine and ruby, as wide as the distance from al-Jabiyyah to San'a.
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2:216 Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.
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Sahih Muslim (19:4294) - "When you meet your enemies who are polytheists (which includes Christians), invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them ... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands......
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Qur'an (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them"
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"In the 1997 violence, residents of the Baghdad neighborhood of Dora said gunmen knocked on the doors of Christian families, demanding they either pay jizya — a special tax traditionally levied on non-Muslims — or leave" ....
Qur'an (9:29) "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold forbidden that which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

So where's your argument exactally that it isn't true?



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 02:35 AM
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Reply to mine then. I have a friend who was higher in Islam that any I've met. He can now turn most muslims in 1/ an hour using their own book. It's hilarious to watch but he knows more than most think he does.

I've never seen anything so dangerous as Islam



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 02:49 AM
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Originally posted by inforeal

Even Saudi Arabia was colonized by the British and Turks; at least I hope you saw Lawrence of Arabia and are not just a product of Fox News propaganda


You said the muslim situation must be blamed on European Colonialism. Thats Soviet Brainwashing. And then your response is that Turks invaded Arabia.

Didnt you know that turks are muslims?

And didnt you know that rather than being victims of colonialism most muslim countries are themselves colonialist?

The Soviet Union fell more than 20 years ago, time to update your History Lessons.



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 03:01 AM
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posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 03:24 AM
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My goodness, you are a rare find. Not many among the non-religious care to see the cause and effect here of giving blanket approval to a religion that essentially wants to destroy you! The carefully trained political correct response is: muslim good, christianity bad. Anything that extols western civilization bad, anything opposed to it, that will destroy it = good.

Even if you don't believe in God, at least consider the words of what their prophets teach. It's not hard to see a profound difference.
Jesus: Love your neighbor as yourself. Love your enemies.
Islam: Smite the infidel, take their women as booty.

Hmmm, which teaching has the greater probability of actually being the words of God?

I know it's a tough call for the cultural Marxists.



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 03:25 AM
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97% of Jihad Passages Violent



Each of the 164 Jihad verses in this list was selected based on how clearly and directly it spoke about Jihad.

Most of the listed passages mention a military expedition, fighting, or distributing war spoils.

Verses NOT generally listed are those that speak about aspects of Jihad other than the raiding, fighting and looting, such as:

* Muhammad's poor opinion of those who did not go on Jihad, even though they were able-bodied and able financially (for instance, some verses in K 009:081-096),
* The heavenly rewards for Jihadists, and
* The many generic mentions of "victory" found in the Koran.

www.answering-islam.org...



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 03:28 AM
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posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 03:35 AM
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Originally posted by lucid eyes
I see from your Avatar that you are a Communist. Id like to take this opportunity to ask you: Do Communists generally hold the view that its not the suicide-bombers spreading fear and hatred but their American critics?



LOL.... really?

You can see that just from my avatar?

That's amazing...


So I'm guessing you're a map then?




posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 03:37 AM
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posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 03:38 AM
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Originally posted by blupblup

LOL.... really?

You can see that just from my avatar?



Yes. The symbol, coupled with your views expressed in posts makes me feel you are a good one to ask about Communist views.

My observation is that Communists view Islamic Jihad as an ally in their fight against America and Israel. Thats why Communists and Islamic Fundamentalists often have the same views.



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 03:44 AM
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posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 03:46 AM
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Well I actually had this avatar made because people have often called me a Commie and I just know that most Americans hate the idea of socialism and Communism, mainly because of the USSR and the cold war and so on.
I just thought why not.... I'll go the whole hog and just be what they already think I am.


But me, as a person without any labels, tags or actual real affiliation to any group...

I see both and all sides of everything.

I see people in Iraq and Afghanistan fighting occupations and illegal ones at that.

I see honest decent people in America and Europe scared because of Extremist Muslims.

Everyone is pissed off and scared... and who invaded who?

Who riled who up?

How many suicide bombers and "alleged" bomb plots were there from "Jihadists" before 9/11?

Before we invaded those countries?

Before Musllims became the most hated group in the world and were demonised on a daily basis by the MSM and continue to be so, while we wage our "war on terror"?

The whole thing is orchestrated by whoever and whatever you like to call them... The elite... TPTB, NWO.... whatever.


You should watch the documentary that was on the other day... was good.

"The war we don't see."

It sums up pretty nicely how I feel and how many see the whole thing... and how it really is, away from the Governments and Media's accepted view of how we should think and feel about it.


Part one is here
www.youtube.com...

The other parts can be found on the right hand side
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