Annomylous line criss cross the Moon (Power Lines)?, page 1


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reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 10:13 PM by weedwhacker
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Firstly....it's Google Earth!!! (Moon)

Secondly....it's Google Earth!!! (Moon)

You see nothing but flaws in their image "stitching" program.

You cannot use Google Earth (Moon...or Mars) and expect to make any serious "study" out of it.......


reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 10:52 PM by nerbot
reply to post by weedwhacker



I second that.

One of those pics looks like a hair on the lens and stitching lines are common on most large planetary terrain photos.


reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 11:09 PM by gemineye
reply to post by All Seeing Eye



I have to agree with weedwhacker. I think it's just the affect of pics being joined together or whatever.

However, I do remember a couple of times that I DID see such a shadow across the moon. Actually, the shadow was more across the sky and just happened to cross the moon. Looked like the shadow of a huge pipe. It wasn't clouds... just a dark line in the sky. The moon was full so it was easy to see it. I have no clue what it was, but don't think that's what we have here.


reply posted on 18-12-2010 @ 01:13 AM by RUSSO
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500 miles in the Moon? I hope Sir Richard Charles Nicholas Branson speed up the project virgen.I'm a fan of Indy racing.

This is gold.


reply posted on 18-12-2010 @ 04:40 AM by Arken
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to
post by All Seeing Eye



Firstly....it's Google Earth!!! (Moon)

Secondly....it's Google Earth!!! (Moon)

You see nothing but flaws in their image "stitching" program.

You cannot use Google Earth (Moon...or Mars) and expect to make any serious "study" out of it.......



Not so sure... Not so sure...

Google Earth, Moon, Mars are good enough to detect anomalies.

And if may ask you, which kind of program images or database we must inspect to?
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reply posted on 18-12-2010 @ 08:04 AM by Arbitrageur
Originally posted by Arken
And if may ask you, which kind of program images or database we must inspect to?
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You can get a mosaic of the clementine images but they explain that the gaps in the 750 nm filter coverage were filled in by the 900 nm filter:

nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov...

The basemap mosaic is a radiometrically and geometrically controlled, photometrically modeled global mosaicked Lunar Digital Image Model (LDIM) in sinusoidal equal-area projection. It was compiled using more than 43,000 images from the 750 nanometer filter observations from the Ultraviolet/Visible camera onboard the Clementine Spacecraft. (The 900 nanometer filter was used to fill gaps where there was missing 750 coverage.)
So this kind of piecing together in a mosaic will have artifacts as a result of filling in the gaps.

To avoid artifacts you have to go to something like the raw images, there are 88 CD-ROMs worth:

nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov...

All 88 CD-ROM volumes of the Clementine raw image collection are available at NSSDC. These disks are arranged by Clementine orbit number, with 3 to 5 orbits contained per CD, starting with orbit 32, the beginning of the lunar mapping phase. An index of the orbits and locations of the coverage for each CD is available. The raw images from all imaging sensors (UV/Visible, Near IR, Long-Wavelength IR, High Resolution, and Star Tracker cameras) will be included for each orbit.


Order page: nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov...

But now we have higher quality images coming the LRO and other spacecraft:

www.nasa.gov...

LRO will spend at least a year in a low polar orbit approximately 50 kilometers (31 miles) above the lunar surface, while its seven instruments find safe landing sites, locate potential resources, characterize the radiation environment and test new technology.


Google moon is piecing together different images from different missions so this will create even more mosaic-type artifacts at the seams between images.

You can see the mosaic effect on the LRO website by looking at the mosaic view:

wms.lroc.asu.edu...





Those seams aren't really on the moon of course, but that's what you get when you patch together images from multiple orbits.
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reply posted on 18-12-2010 @ 11:00 AM by All Seeing Eye
If not mistaken, which sometimes happens to the best of us, the photos I present came from the Japanese Lunar orbiter KAGUYA (SELENE) data archives, not NASA.

These are High Definition photos incorporated into Google Earth / Moon of the Apollo 15 lunar landing site.. They are not stitched together in the traditional manner.

Below is the area of capture from a HD Japanese camera in question. The zoom in ability is quite remarkable.




The "seem" in this view is a slight discoloration and not a distinct line.

To keep its context I have included views at different zoom levels so the viewer can follow the decent and notice where the HD seem is.




One of the Anomalous lines starts to come into view.



Now the anomalous line is in full view with orientation to the HD seam line.




Now in its final zoom you can see it has nothing to do with any seem lines.




For more information on the Japanese HD filming process (Which by the way I believe uses filming processes that do not include haphazard human "hairs") please follow this link.

JAXA released data from the lunar explorer "KAGUYA" (SELENE) (L2 products) during the nominal operation phase (from December 21, 2007 to October 31, 2008) to the public through the Internet.

L2 products are calibrated/validated processed data from KAGUYA science mission instruments. By using the L2 products, researchers all over the world are expected to advance the scientific analysis and applicability investigation of the moon.

www.kaguya.jaxa.jp...


KAGUYA taking around the landing site of the Apollo 15 by HDTV





reply posted on 18-12-2010 @ 11:11 AM by weedwhacker
reply to post by All Seeing Eye



Just for snips and giggles, I 'googled' in 'images' category; Keywords "google earth image seams"....and, lo and behold, found this rather informative article/blog entry:

One of the main challenges in mosaic production is ensuring the mosaic is seamless. That is, one cannot easily discern where the edges of the input images are. This can be challenging for a number of reasons. One of the most difficult aspects involves the input image geometry. Because the input images have different perspective centers, the geometry of surface objects will vary between images.


fiducialmark.blogspot.com...

(He/She) goes on to discuss the aspects related more to Google Earth images, and buildings that don't line up etc...all things that we are familiar with, since we live on this planet.

BUT, it has relevance to the images of ALIEN planets, doesn't it?? Even if there are no buildings...you still see seams.....


reply posted on 18-12-2010 @ 11:23 AM by All Seeing Eye
reply to post by weedwhacker

BUT, it has relevance to the images of ALIEN planets, doesn't it?? Even if there are no buildings...you still see seams.....
True, very true. But with differing photo process, those seems will appear, different. But again, the entire picture presented is not all seems. One must look at the entire picture to see the edges. In this HD process it appears they intentionally discolored the photos to highlight the "seem" so you know where it is. HD is filled with information the Apollo missions could only dream of.

I have shown where the boundary seem line is in relation to the HD seem line, and they are not the same. This anomalous line is separate from any seem or boundary line. It is its own artifact.

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