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Originally posted by Reaper2137
I am an old solider.. I've seen a lot of death and destruction.. so it doesn't faze me any more.. I view humans as animals. no better, no worse.
Originally posted by For(Home)Country
reply to post by mnemeth1
Should I be charged with attempted murder if I put a half-loaded revolver to your head, pulled the trigger once, and nothing happened? I wouldn't imagine that you'd be very comfortable with that, in the same way I wouldn't imagine the general population being very comfortable with drunk drivers legally driving everywhere.
I understand that you are an anarchist and that you don't particularly care for anyone other than yourself and your ability to keep yourself from being harmed, having your money taken, etc, but the truth is not all organization and law is bad. I know that's probably a big one for you to swallow as well because it would require you to look out for someone other than yourself or you immediate family, but just remember you aren't the only one who exists. Thanks.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Originally posted by Reaper2137
I am an old solider.. I've seen a lot of death and destruction.. so it doesn't faze me any more.. I view humans as animals. no better, no worse.
Ahh, I see the issue.
I apologise for spouting off at you (even though you deserved it).
The military does a great job in ripping the humanity from a person so they are conditioned for war...they just do a really shyte job in giving the person their humanity back.
Humans are of course animals, and more. the militarys job is to remove that "and more" part from the soldier...the trick is, once your back into civilian life, to do whatever it takes to regain that humanity...force yourself to do some charity work at a abused children shelter..allow yourself to gain emotional attachment to others and their well being. deprogram yourself from the governments steel arm...then you may wake back up into your true form.
I remember talking to my father (ex marine Sg who did 3 tours in vietnam). a few years back. we were discussing his trips and he was talking about the action he seen..I asked him the normal questions one would (how did it feel? -like I was superman to be honest..exciting- How did it feel seeing the dead? -no connection to them as humans-)
I kept asking things, eventually we started talking about the familys of the soldiers they left behind and things changed dramatically. I think it was the first time ever he truely and honestly sat down and considered the family left behind of the young soldiers that went out to fight.
It was also the second time I seen him cry in my life...it was like he suddenly got a part of him back he had to cut out decades ago just out of survival necessity. He is a curiously happier man now..not saying it was that one night that changed his outlook...but I do think that was a start
Seek help...don't let the government keep part of your soul.
Originally posted by worlds_away
The best way to stop drinking and driving is to act against it.
In the case of a friend who wants to drive home drunk from anywhere:
1. Take their keys.
2. Call a cab. Call a sober friend. Call their parents.
3. Put them to bed. In a bed, on a couch, or on the linoleum floor in the kitchen.
Doing these things can be hard, they can tear friendships apart.
Not doing these things and getting a phone call later is harder.
Originally posted by Reaper2137
I don't think he is selfish.. I think you are people who want to be "safe" at the cost of liberty deserve neither I think you have a narrow mind and if you die it wouldn't faze me... your are selfish for thinking that your life matters more than any other animal on the planet your not the only being on the planet.. thanks
Originally posted by mnemeth1
This makes the assumption that DUI laws actually prevent a large number of people from driving drunk.
They do not.
Originally posted by harvib
reply to post by mnemeth1
You bring up an important issue. I think people have been convinced that drunk driving is a far more serious issue then it truly is.
Originally posted by For(Home)Country
reply to post by Reaper2137
I will gladly open my mouth when I wish to, Mr. Liberty because like you, I have every right to, amirite?
As for the statistics, I assure you that no large amount of "googleing" is required to come up with the facts. If you take a look around page 18 of this .pdf, you will see that the amount of traffic incidents has declined drastically over the years between 1975 and 1985, and hovered around the 42,000 level in the last 20 years. I would not call the slight drops or increases "ineffectiveness", especially when you include the growing vehicle population. Of course, these are Canadian statistics, but I would recommend that you be a little bit more nice and research your own opinion a little bit more before you assert your beliefs as facts. DUI's are effective, and they do indeed deter a large amount (not all of course) of drunk people from driving.
If you, however, can find statistics proving that DUI's do not improve the safety and well being of a community, I will revise my opinion. But until then, I think it is safe to say that you are misguided and your perception bias makes you believe in what you want to believe. If you believe that driving drunk will be of great benefit to you, then go ahead and try and deal with the consequences. If you get home safe, I tip my hat to you sir and will say "Wow, I sure wish I was you." If you end up killing or injuring someone, perhaps then you will be able to fulfil this websites cliche yet underused motto.