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reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 09:44 PM by thedeadtruth

reply to post by thedoctorswife

No I am not a parent.

I am a mortician who specializes in obesity embalming and I also run a health center. Where ironically enough I give free training to overweight people with time / money limitations. Most of the people I train are parents and they bring their kids in with them.

reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 09:47 PM by ANNED

I am one of those with a "Gland Problem" actually its the autoimmune disease sarcoidosis

My problem is stupid doctors that only believe that my weight problem is caused by over eating and being lazy.

These same doctors are so stupid that they can not read the reports in my medical records that show that i have been DX by specialist with a number of disorders caused by my sarcoidosis including neurosarcoidosis that caused peripheral neuropathy(sarcoid neuropathy) and leaves me with pain like i am walking barefoot on broken glass. it has also left me with servere fibromyalgia.
The sarcoidosis has also attacked my endocrine system and is the direct cause of my weight problem
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
qjmed.oxfordjournals.org...

Diferant specialist from UCLA working for the VA have DXed these disorders and they are on my VA medical records.
and all my doctors can bring them up with just a mouse click, But some never do.

But at the same time i have primary care doctors working for the VA that tell me that i am lazy, not in pain, that fibromyalgia is not a real disorder, and put things in my records like that i am a drug seeker that i am not following a diet to lose weight and not taking medical advice.

I wonder how many of the people that are overweight have disorders that the doctors,
never looked for.
are not treating properly
dismissed as not real.
or never cared if there was another problem.

Many people believe what there doctors tell them even when its wrong or bad advice.
Many never question there doctors when the doctors tell them that nothing is wrong.

I was a EMT for 40 years and have seen doctors screw up so many times i question everything i feel is wrong
Guess what i am right 90% of the time and when i am wrong i still find i was right in questioning the doctors because they still find other things that need treatment.
I now have a doctor that made the comment that i know more about sarcoidosis then he does and he is a chest specialist that treats that type of disorder.
I think i will keep him for a while as he is willing to learn as he treats me. .

reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 09:51 PM by thedoctorswife

Originally posted by thedeadtruth
reply to post by thedoctorswife

No I am not a parent.

I am a mortician who specializes in obesity embalming and I also run a health center. Where ironically enough I give free training to overweight people with time / money limitations. Most of the people I train are parents and they bring their kids in with them.

Oh god i hate argueing but yknow kids are really hard going, its 24/7 stress for 20 years of your life, you have no idea what its like until you have them, HONESTLY, in fact i was 23 when i had my first and i wish it was later. But please dont think were all super parents who do gym and then make healthy suppers for our kids because i
in reality its not like thats you cant imagine it until you live it. best wishes tho
merry xmas happy holidays.

reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 09:58 PM by thedeadtruth

Who said anything about super parents ?

Some of the people I look after have got type 2 diabetes and will end up amputees or dead if they don't start exercising. As for the 24 / 7 for 20 years bull. I know parents who bring up kids, hold down jobs and look after themselves because they see it as part of being a parent.

The only thing they are is super realistic.

reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 10:02 PM by thedeadtruth

I always remember my Mom telling me she got enough exercise carrying the groceries and hanging up the washing.

But she was still clinically obese.

She was only fooling herself.

reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 10:07 PM by LadySkadi

reply to post by thedeadtruth

I remember my mom telling my dad that he owed it to her (and us, kids) and that she owed it to him (and us, kids) to do what's necessary to stay healthy and fit. Just grew up with that role-modeled for me and I believe she was right... If you have a spouse or kids, it is something you owe to them, as they do to you.

reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 10:15 PM by Realtruth

Originally posted by LadySkadi
reply to post by thedeadtruth

I remember my mom telling my dad that he owed it to her (and us, kids) and that she owed it to him (and us, kids) to do what's necessary to stay healthy and fit. Just grew up with that role-modeled for me and I believe she was right... If you have a spouse or kids, it is something you owe to them, as they do to you.

I have to agree with you, eating healthy, exercise and staying fit is not only good for a person, but for the people that need them most. You can't help anyone if you can not help yourself.

reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 10:27 PM by ladyinwaiting

Slay, some of this is funny, but some of it is a little on the mean side.

I have friends who are overweight and it can be such a struggle. They have honest food addictions, and it's so difficult. We all do something in times of stress and distress, and their minds fixate on food. Trying to cut back can be harder than quitting smoking or getting off drugs. With some folks it's a true addiction and they find it very disturbing, and their self-esteem is crap. It's just a bad situation, health wise, and every other wise.

reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 10:27 PM by thedeadtruth

For the "parents" on here.

A simple question that so far no-one has tried to answer.

If being a parent promotes obesity. Then why is it only a modern problem ? If anything parents in the past used to have more stress and less help. With household appliances definitely making life a lot easier. You have more time on your hands than any other time in history.

Hint ... Opera didn't get rich because no-one was watching her show. Those ratings came from one main demographic , you want to guess what that demographic was ?

reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 10:34 PM by sonjah1

reply to post by SLAYER69

Mr. SLAYER69:

In my humble opinion, on your OP--

Logic: B+
Emotional Appeal: A+
Credibility: F; for all of the rollie-pollies, you need to post the before and after pictures of your personal experience of conquering fatness so that we know that you are qualified to speak on this subject-matter....

reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 10:45 PM by die_another_day

I blame high tech food.

reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 10:45 PM by SLAYER69

reply to post by sonjah1

I was ashamed of my weight and avoided the camera the last couple of years.

This is before I lost an additional 5 pounds this past summer.

Also I wish to apologize if I've offended anyone. This was not directed towards those who have legitimate health issues beyond their control.

This was directed towards those who are self inflected with an overweight problem. They know what they did to get there and know what it will take to extract themselves.

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reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 10:56 PM by Anjaba

I used to be really fat, but I lost 100lbs when I went to college. I have a family and daughter now, and healthy eating habits are a #1 priority for me. Corporations are poisoning us unfortunately, and most people either don't see it or just don't care.

reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 10:57 PM by HomerinNC

just more of me to ,love

reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 10:58 PM by searching4it

OP can I ask why you are sitting here ranting and raving about how we "americans" are fat instead of getting out and helping the ones who want and need to lose the weight? It seems you are frustrated at how your fellow countrymen/women have let themselves go, but just sitting here and yelling/ranting/fussing about it does nothing. I am overweight, but I just went through 5 months of carrying a child and then miscarried and went through a depression from all of it and am just getting over it. I think if you are that frustrated, then get out and help someone who needs and wants the help to lose the weight. I am sure there are other mothers out there in my position that would love to have an exercise partner, but doesn't have one. I know I would love for someone to workout with, because my husband just refuses to get up and do it with me. Plus, I am sure when they find out that you have recently lost weight it will help motivate them to do the same.

reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 11:01 PM by ladyinwaiting

reply to post by SLAYER69

Aww, Slay, love ya man, and I know what a good heart you have.

You are right, there is a problem. It's a combination of stress and fast food, methinks.

I don't stress-eat, but I....do other things. lol. Everybody's got some vice, I guess.

reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 11:02 PM by SLAYER69

reply to post by searching4it

Fair enough.

This is just 1 venue in which to get the word out.

I go to the gym three time a week and help the new guys. too many only try for a week or two and when they haven't lost 20lbs they then get depressed and want to give up meanwhile they lost 2 lbs.

One 1 lb a week = 52 lbs in a year.

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reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 11:03 PM by Realtruth

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
reply to post by SLAYER69

I don't stress-eat, but I....do other things. lol. Everybody's got some vice, I guess.

Lady,

I love how you are always so mysteriously cryptic.

Very sexy.

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reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 11:03 PM by Chai_An

Originally posted by ANNED
I am one of those with a "Gland Problem" actually its the autoimmune disease sarcoidosis

My problem is stupid doctors that only believe that my weight problem is caused by over eating and being lazy.

That's the prevalent thought with most doctors, as well as the accepted outlook just in case you haven't read the majority of the posts here.

But at the same time i have primary care doctors working for the VA that tell me that i am lazy, not in pain, that fibromyalgia is not a real disorder, and put things in my records like that i am a drug seeker that i am not following a diet to lose weight and not taking medical advice.

It's easier to say that when they are stumped of the causes which would require them to do some investigative work which most will not do. If you are getting your care from the VA only so much money is allotted to each patient so thorough lab work is often not done.

I wonder how many of the people that are overweight have disorders that the doctors,
never looked for.
are not treating properly
dismissed as not real.
or never cared if there was another problem.

I'm sure more than you and I can imagine. It's politically correct to assume people are just gluttonous and lazy then to believe that their health issues caused the obesity and not the other way around. There are folks beating themselves up for not being able to be a normal weight in spite of doing all the expecting things such as diet adjustments, exercise, and stress reduction.

Many people believe what there doctors tell them even when its wrong or bad advice.
Many never question there doctors when the doctors tell them that nothing is wrong.

We assume these people attend college for many years not to mention their internships and residencies they actually know what they are talking about. If you keep having problems and your doctor says your lab work is normal, then you as the patient must do your own research not just to find a more empathetic doctor but to find out what could be wrong with you.

reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 11:06 PM by sonjah1

reply to post by SLAYER69

Gulp. I didn't expect you to actually post pictures to the thread, but it does help "expert" opinion. And this statement lends more credibility as far as I am concerned: